I wish I took more pics during the repair. The guy I bought it from wasnt the brightest bulb in the bunch, which was pretty obvious by his drill job.
Great job
At least he was bright enough to not put any holes in the slide.
The VISES of Garage Journal
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Great job
At least he was bright enough to not put any holes in the slide.joe.striper
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Here are my initial pics of the Emmert. 4" jaws, works great. Swivels perfectly and the transition from horizontal to vertical is excellent. Some small chips on the jaws but at least I have them.
Issues: needs a handle, triangular jaws are missing, very porous casting. Ok, so i can make a handle, ive been told that most are missing these triangular jaws and metal epoxy and a palm sander can fill and finish the castings.
Here are the pics. Any comments/suggestions are welcome.
Issues: needs a handle, triangular jaws are missing, very porous casting. Ok, so i can make a handle, ive been told that most are missing these triangular jaws and metal epoxy and a palm sander can fill and finish the castings.
Here are the pics. Any comments/suggestions are welcome.
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joe.striper
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bigcaddy
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The Emmert woodworking vises have earned the nickname of "the iron hand" due to the strength and handiness around the shop.
I too have one of those 3 jaw Emmert metalworking vises laying around and have affectionately dubbed it "the club foot"
Enjoy it. It's a rarity, especially when in one piece
David Jackson
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Here are pics of the Wilton. Mounted solid to the table with bolts, no swivel. I would like to raise some $$ for friend's daughter; any ideas as to value? Missing moveable part's actual jaw; screws appear to be broken off in the holes. Screw seems OK, did not turn it all the way out; turns in almost to close then gets a little stiff; I did not try to close it all the way. Obviously dirty with who knows how many years of grease, grime, etc. Don't they call that "patina"?
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oldldh
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JoeStriper---
I think you need to contact Kevin Scott...
www.benchvisejaws.com
He will probably be able to help you...
I think you need to contact Kevin Scott...
www.benchvisejaws.com
He will probably be able to help you...
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drivesitfar
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MPower: nice job on the Morgan and it looks great already mounted to your bench. Welcome to the vise thread officially in case others forgot or didn't notice you mentioned that you just found us. just a warning before you get hooked because there are a few GJ vise thread members almost complaining that they own too many vises now. At least it sounds like complaining. i think while they were complaining they actually bought another vise or two so maybe they just needed a fix. so bee careful because these awesome old tools are a little addicting. good luck on your Wilton find and if you keep reading the thread you might also see other ones you like better or as well.
All: i found this old Reed tonight and except for the pipe jaws being MIA which isn't surprising i think this 100 year old vise looks pretty good. i do like the huge wing nut that is pretty close to the same as the one on my late 1800's Massey vise. i'm sure i didn't need this vise, but i added a nice 240 pound file cabinet next to my "little" cabinet that had some room in it. i'm also trying to fill a few holes in my little cabinet since a few escaped lately.
All: i found this old Reed tonight and except for the pipe jaws being MIA which isn't surprising i think this 100 year old vise looks pretty good. i do like the huge wing nut that is pretty close to the same as the one on my late 1800's Massey vise. i'm sure i didn't need this vise, but i added a nice 240 pound file cabinet next to my "little" cabinet that had some room in it. i'm also trying to fill a few holes in my little cabinet since a few escaped lately.
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Drives: Nice find on that Reed. I have been using my no 32 and really like it. Using it makes wonder why under the bench mounts fell out of style i've yet to have mine swivel on me while i'm using it.
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drivesitfar
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Rusty: any idea of the age of my Reed 31 or your 32? does yours have pipe jaws and are they still in the vise?
Mine popped up on Craigslist about a mile from my house so i had to grab it. the 70 year old owner was a great guy and said this was his dad's. he also mention remember dad teaching him how to use it about 65 years ago in his shop. he's looking for the missing pipe jaws and screws, but i'm guessing they are easily made if i can find a pair to copy off of.
thanks for the kudos. also i just noticed you posted the catalog page. any date on it and it looks like your 32 weighs in at 73 pounds for a 4.5 inch vise.
Mine popped up on Craigslist about a mile from my house so i had to grab it. the 70 year old owner was a great guy and said this was his dad's. he also mention remember dad teaching him how to use it about 65 years ago in his shop. he's looking for the missing pipe jaws and screws, but i'm guessing they are easily made if i can find a pair to copy off of.
thanks for the kudos. also i just noticed you posted the catalog page. any date on it and it looks like your 32 weighs in at 73 pounds for a 4.5 inch vise.
Mine doesn't have the pipe jaws and I haven't seen one that still does have the pipe jaws. Yours could date anywhere from 1914 to 1934 when Reed stopped making that pattern of swivel base. I think the pipe jaws would look similar to a Yost because these 31-34 series of vises that reed made look very similar to Yost's 30 series line of combo vises.
joe.striper
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Old, I was planning on it. In fact I currently have a Wilton C1 on eBay where i show Kevin much love in my description.
I hope the guys on here dont hate on me but I'm not going to keep this vise. My question is do restore it or just clean and oil it?
If someone on this board wants this please pm me. Id be willing to sell it well below its value if the buyer wasnt going to ebay or Craigslist it and wanted it for their personal collection.
The people on this board have been great and if I can make a ********* collector giddy and put some cash in my pocket it'd make my day.
That's a 5" jaw width 9500 which is a nice size vise. Were it local I would pay about $60 for that vise after inspection taking into account the missing jaw, broken screws and lack of the swivel base.
blacknblue
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Thinking about picking this little guy up. What say ye?
rmalkow2
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Ye should take care to lift with your legs!
Sorry, couldn't resist. Get it if the price is right and not broken.
FEED THE ADDICTION
EOC_Jason
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Looks nice... Late model Reed with some copper jaws.... 104-S ??? Keep us updated, hope you grab it!
EOC_Jason
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Okay, finally got around to cleaning up my Reed 2C, also installed some new pipe-jaws (purchased from Mr. Scott)... Painted "Army Green" (Rustoleum camouflage paint)... I just realized this is the first vise I've painted that was a "flat" paint... I really like how it turned out... The red spots aren't rust, that is where the primer seeped through the tape lines. This one lived a hard life, but is still very solid and tight.
Now I just need to clean up my 3C and I can take a nice group picture!
Now I just need to clean up my 3C and I can take a nice group picture!
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GETRIDAONE
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That one looks good Jason. It seems everyone is going with some shade of green on the paint jobs lately.
drivesitfar
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Jason: nice job on the 2C. 
B & B: you didn't provide too many details, but that is a great looking Reed vise from that picture you posted and with copper jaws protecting the originals it should be in great shape.
RM: NICE!!
B & B: you didn't provide too many details, but that is a great looking Reed vise from that picture you posted and with copper jaws protecting the originals it should be in great shape.
RM: NICE!!
EOC_Jason
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Well I did get a can of dark blue, but it was still pretty close to the safety blue of my 1C... I'm trying to get all 4 different colors... I'm thinking for the 3C it's going to be flat black...
72CZ
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KMScott
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Jason, real nice, looks like I should adjust the teeth on the jaws a little, maybe push out the teeth on top a 1/32 or so. Really like that color.
bigcaddy
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A little bit of rust and dust never bothered anybody on here but that Wilton has seen better days.
I don't think its worth much as it sits but you could get a decent amount if you decided to part it out online. Plenty of people are looking for a dynamic/stationary jaw assembly as well as a rear nut, op handle, collar and the other small parts found on what you have there.
I'm more interested in that Rock Island i see in the background. What the heck happened to that thing?
Check out the classifieds for better pics.
It looks like something REALLY BIG fell on it and broke the slide.
I should look like the attached pic.
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G20-Budo
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Jason, nice Reed 2c there!
FMC1959
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The Reed C's are beautiful vises, as nice as any model out there. To Jason and anyone else that has all 4, kudos, nice collection.
bigcaddy
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Here is a small update on the 5198. Besides having a really busy work schedule on top of my projects, my shop is a comfortable 105 degrees by the time i get there to work on things. That's with the doors open and fans on
I finally got the lockdown polished to a nice shine. What's odd is the lockdown is cad plated while everything else is bare metal
The box of matches is for size reference. The round stock used for the nut is about 1 1/4" in diameter. Not exactly small
I finally got the lockdown polished to a nice shine. What's odd is the lockdown is cad plated while everything else is bare metal
The box of matches is for size reference. The round stock used for the nut is about 1 1/4" in diameter. Not exactly small
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Here is a small update on the 5198. Besides having a really busy work schedule on top of my projects, my shop is a comfortable 105 degrees by the time i get there to work on things. That's with the doors open and fans on
I finally got the lockdown polished to a nice shine. What's odd is the lockdown is cad plated while everything else is bare metal
The box of matches is for size reference. The round stock used for the nut is about 1 1/4" in diameter. Not exactly small
I wondered what you'd been up to...
The thing folks forget about a 5198, is, it's not like a "normal" 5" Craftsman vise...A 5198 is stout, and weighs over 100 pounds...most other Craftsman 5"'ers weigh less than 40 pounds...
The nut being an inch and a quarter doesn't surprise me at all....
Your 105 degree garage sounds a tad cooler then mine..."It's not the heat, it's the humidity"...Down here, it's BOTH...105 and 98% gives a heat index a smidgen below boiling...
Keep us posted...BC...
bigcaddy
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I've been up to plenty and not a day goes by that the 5198 doesn't get at least a few minutes of work applied to it along with the smaller 5197 sitting beside it. Both are coming along nicely and will hopefully be ready for pictures in a month or so.
I have plans for those two...
joe.striper
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Outlawmws
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I've been up to plenty and not a day goes by that the 5198 doesn't get at least a few minutes of work applied to it along with the smaller 5197 sitting beside it. Both are coming along nicely and will hopefully be ready for pictures in a month or so.
I have plans for those two...
Vice breeding???
oldldh
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Blue Frog
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Tyberius
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"Great Shape"
sz0k30
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Here's what appears to be a great buy in the Detroit area C/L:
http://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_2DbAl71LRso_300x300.jpg
O.K. that didn't work too well. How do you post C/L listings?
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/tls/4668684916.html
Got it.
http://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_2DbAl71LRso_300x300.jpg
O.K. that didn't work too well. How do you post C/L listings?
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/tls/4668684916.html
Got it.
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Question on restoration. I've been cooking the 4" Fulton in my e-tank for a few days, and now that a lot of the grit/rust/paint is gone, I've got a better sense of what's going on.
First, there's a pin that's driven in front of the female threaded receptacle for the screw that prevents the receptacle from being removed (which I'd like to do to better clean the internals of the static jaw.) As a novice with these things, it's not clear to me how the pin is driven in and whether or not it even makes sense for me to remove it. The receptacle does move a little (wiggles side to side) so clearly it should be removable if the pin is gone.
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Getting cleaner:
Retaining pin + screw carriage:
Retaining pin for screw carriage, bottom of vise:
Jaw faces showing pins:
First, there's a pin that's driven in front of the female threaded receptacle for the screw that prevents the receptacle from being removed (which I'd like to do to better clean the internals of the static jaw.) As a novice with these things, it's not clear to me how the pin is driven in and whether or not it even makes sense for me to remove it. The receptacle does move a little (wiggles side to side) so clearly it should be removable if the pin is gone.
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Getting cleaner:
Retaining pin + screw carriage:
Retaining pin for screw carriage, bottom of vise:
Jaw faces showing pins:
Actually if you look past the grime and possible repaint it looks pretty good. No obvious damage, straight handles including the swivel locks, finger savers still there.
EOC_Jason
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Beat the pin from the top down, then you should be able to pull the main-screw nut out.
drivesitfar
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Jason: I've always put a punch just slightly smaller than the pin on the underside and drove the pin up because that is usually the shortest distance. also because the top of the old pins are sometimes bent in to the vise nut. is this wrong?
Sashae: yes the vise nut will come out for better cleaning once the pin is removed. good luck
BC: nice work on the 5198 so far and i know your shop is miserable now with the heat, but when it's snowing up here you will be smiling in your 70 degree weather. keep up the great work because that almost looked like a brand new swivel nut.
Sashae: yes the vise nut will come out for better cleaning once the pin is removed. good luck
BC: nice work on the 5198 so far and i know your shop is miserable now with the heat, but when it's snowing up here you will be smiling in your 70 degree weather. keep up the great work because that almost looked like a brand new swivel nut.
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