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Harley#356

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I'm trying to find an ultra-compact/light-weight rachet/socket set. This is one of those where best/strongest/biggest isn't the prime decision driver. I need small/compact/light. The less tools the better for this case.

I'm an engineer, and I've got a few trips into the field coming up (aka on the ship) where it's helpful to have a few basic tools, but it's 12 hour days, tight spaces, and if you set something nice down and walk away for 30 seconds it's gone forever lol, so it either needs to stay in your hand, in your pocket, or in your bag. I've got a small backpack that fits 5 bottles of water in the bottom section, and a few handtools in the top section. It quickly gets heavy fast, so the less tools the better.

I could just get a 1/4" ratchet and a sleeve with half dozen SAE 1/4" drive sockets and it'd be plenty, but I am an engineer so I do like cool gadget tools lol. But not gimmick tools that are impractical or non-ergonomic. Needs to be actually useable and useful.

Doesn't need to be super heavy-duty, it's not breaking loose big azz 3/4 bolts with a 1/2" impact torqued to 100 ft lbs. It's opening up enclosures and cabinets mostly with small hardware thats just tight enough not to crack open by hand, to chase fibers and controls wiring, etc..


I found this Kobalt one, but it's somewhat big at almost a foot long because it's those stupid xtreme access sockets. I'd love to find something like this with normal 1/4" drive sockets but more compact. I only need SAE, and like 3/16, 1/2", 9/16", 5/8" covers basically everything. If this thing were 6 or 8" long instead of a foot long it'd be perfect. Those xtreme access ones just make it the size of a 1/2" ratchet to do the job of 1/4" sockets. Too much bulk for the bang.

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Something like this would be more ideal if it fit 4 or 5 1/4" drive sockets in its handle instead of a bunch of screwdriver tips

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I've got a 6 way screwdriver to cover big/small phillips/flat, I don't want a 20 piece tool like above with a socket to fit a phillips bit to have something fall apart in a cabinet lol. Simple is key.

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And I've got these cool quad-box 4 way gear wrenches that each wrench has 4 sizes and it's ratcheting, so I only need to carry 2 wrenches in place of 8

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If I can't find anything I'll probably just get a small 1/4" drive SAE sleeve like the above one has, and an ABS ratchet from Harbor Freight. I got the 3/8" drive ABS ratchet a while back since it was marked down dirt cheap, and it's actually way stronger than you'd think a plastic ratchet would be lol, but it's feather light which fits the bill for carrying in a bag all day. Like I said the fasteners I'm working with are just holding enclosure doors shut, not holding huge stuff under high torque.



This stuff actually makes a good "emergency kit" to keep in your truck too without having to lug a 40 lb tool kit around, it'd all fit in your glove box and weigh 2 lbs lol.

Thanks for any suggestions!
 
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the first one is too many parts. basically a ratchet and separate sockets. A big carrying case doesnt' help me much, it's just another case inside my bag, and something to try and take out and set down where there's no places to set things down.

the second one looks pretty interesting since it all snaps together it looks like, but still bulkier/heavier than I was looking for and a lot of extra screwdriver bits than I need.
 

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You could rig up a piece of PVC pipe with removable cap to hold small sockets. I will guess 1 1/2" would make a nice size. I saw in a magazine that Litton made a set called a "Pocket Socket" This was back in the 80s. I have never seen one except in the write up. It was a 1/4" drive set with handle storage.
 

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How about something like the following tool:


http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495363_200495363?cm_mmc=Bing-{adtype}-_-Hand Tools-_-Wrenches-_-25399

Although not hollow it would save you a lot of space and you would not worry about any lost sockets.
 
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You could rig up a piece of PVC pipe with removable cap to hold small sockets. I will guess 1 1/2" would make a nice size. I saw in a magazine that Litton made a set called a "Pocket Socket" This was back in the 80s. I have never seen one except in the write up. It was a 1/4" drive set with handle storage.

The down side to the PCV pipe is if I set it down it'll roll away being on a ship lol.

How about something like the following tool:


http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495363_200495363?cm_mmc=Bing-{adtype}-_-Hand Tools-_-Wrenches-_-25399

Although not hollow it would save you a lot of space and you would not worry about any lost sockets.

The down side to that is it's bulky and cumbersome to use and doesn't ratchet. May be fine for an occasional bolt here or there, but some of these cabinets I need to get into can have anywhere from 2 to 20 bolts holding it shut. Those dogbone wrenches aren't the most ergonomic tools.


While that's not a ratchet with internal storage, that's definitely a nice piece to have! That one sold though, and I can't find any others in a quick google search. If anyone can find one of those I'll definitely order one up.

One 6 in 1 screwdriver
One 6 in 1 precision screwdriver
One 5 in 1 nutdriver/socket spinner w/ handle storage
Two 4 in 1 quad ratcheting wrenches
One Gerber multitool
One LED flashlight

That's a pretty versatile lineup that'll fit in a small pocket of my bag. Just need a small 1/4" socket set, preferibly with built-in storage, and my macguiver kit is complete lol
 
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Built-in storage will just make the tool excessively bulky and heavy.

For every day use in the garage I agree. For carrying in my back pocket around on a ship where I have to carry all the sockets with me anyway, having them captured inside the handle is a nice way to keep it compact and right in reach instead of shuffling through my bag trying to find loose sockets or having to carry a bulky plastic case.

I know it will make the tool slightly larger than the tool without built-in storage, but 1/4" drive sockets are pretty tiny, and a 1/4" drive socket with 4 or 5 sockets inside the handle could easily be the size of a 3/8" drive ratchet with no internal storage. Not talking about a 20 piece socket set. I need 4 or 5 of the most common small sizes and that's it.

That kobalt one is close, but unfortunately since it's the xtreme access style sockets, it makes it as bulky as a 1/2" drive ratchet, with no more versatility than a 1/4" drive.
 

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If something like that exist I don't know about it, but what you listed in socket size you need, I would just get a safety pin/ clasp for boxes and store the sockets on that and latch the clasp to a loop inside my bag and carry and a regular 1/4" ratchet so it is still small enough to get in tight spaces and its light weight compare to the added weight of the material to do what you basically want done.
 
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I believe something like this is what you are looking for.

http://www.grabonestore.co.nz/ready-ratchets

You'll have to try to find somewhere to actually purchase it but that link at least has some pretty detailed pics so you can decide if you're interested in pursuing it.

YES! That's almost exactly what I'm looking for!

Too bad it's so hard to find lol. I'll have to dig more later.

This one is 1/4" drive, but it's metric, I need SAE:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HE89KW/?tag=atomicindus08-20

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This one is 3/8" drive, but again metric:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CD51YU/?tag=atomicindus08-20


And another one 3/8" drive and SAE, but out of stock:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CD51YK/?tag=atomicindus08-20
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Here's another one I found searching "Ready Ratchet" but don't see a way to buy it

http://boltgroup.com/product/work-product/studies-product/readytools

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If something like that exist I don't know about it, but what you listed in socket size you need, I would just get a safety pin/ clasp for boxes and store the sockets on that and latch the clasp to a loop inside my bag and carry and a regular 1/4" ratchet so it is still small enough to get in tight spaces and its light weight compare to the added weight of the material to do what you basically want done.

If I can't find an all-in-one, I'll probably just get this one, the sockets stay in the plastic holder, I don't have to fumble taking extra ones off to get to a specific socket, easy to see what size is what, but I was just hoping to find a cool all-in-one that was self-contained.

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That failing buy the metric set off Amazon, go to Sears and pick up the individual SAE sockets needed and put them inside instead.
 
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How about taking a ratchet, cutting it just behind the head and welding on a section of conduit with a threaded cap at the end. Could make it how ever long or short you want to hold the sockets you need.

This would also let you get the ratcheting mechanism that you like, and your preferred brand of sockets.
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That failing buy the metric set off Amazon, go to Sears and pick up the individual SAE sockets needed and put them inside instead.

:lol_hitti haha that was too obvious for me to think of myself, I may just do that!

How about taking a ratchet, cutting it just behind the head and welding on a section of conduit with a threaded cap at the end. Could make it how ever long or short you want to hold the sockets you need.

This would also let you get the ratcheting mechanism that you like, and your preferred brand or sockets.
~ Carson

That may work, but I can't weld, and I'm a tool junkie so I'd like something that still looks nice and not cobbled together lol


Those are almost too nice/expensive to risk getting stolen. A $10 or $15 all-in-one isn't the biggest deal, those kits look more on the expensive side.



I'm picky I know haha, but I appreciate all the suggestions!
 

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If your company has any kind of machine/fabrication shop they should be able to weld one up for you and not make it look cobbled together. Just bring in the parts and slip your welder an extra $20 for a bit of "lunch work", haha.

The more I'm thinking of this, I kinda want to try building one now. If I do, I'll certainly post up some pictures.

And nothing wrong with being picky, especially for something you'll use all the time. If you just get something close enough, you'll end up buying twice.

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Let me throw another one at ya. Stubby 1/4" ratchet.drill the handle for the key chain and wear the sockets on a necklace :thumbup:. Hell man . You could get std, metrics, deep 12 and 6 points. Look like Mr. T ! ( Mr. Tool):bounce:
 
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...having them captured inside the handle is a nice way to keep it compact and right in reach instead of shuffling through my bag trying to find loose sockets or having to carry a bulky plastic case...

Shuffling through a bag? Carrying a bulky case? Beware the slippery slope you create when rationalizing your choice (in-handle socket storage, only) necessitates exaggerated marginalizing of alternatives, as you are doing, here.

I've had a career of customizing yachts, where much of the work had to be done, in situ. So hauling tools is not something new to me. Putting together an emergency roadside tool kit for a motorcycle is good practice, where even thin pattern wrenches might be chosen just to save weight and bulk. Look at what professionals are using. Ask yourself if maybe they know something. Avoid gimmicks. It is understandable to try to minimize size and weight of your portable tool kit. But it seems unwise to compromise the functionality and ergonomics of the tools, for that sake, as well as so severely limiting one's selection.
 
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If your company has any kind of machine/fabrication shop they should be able to weld one up for you and not make it look cobbled together. Just bring in the parts and slip your welder an extra $20 for a bit of "lunch work", haha.

The more I'm thinking of this, I kinda want to try building one now. If I do, I'll certainly post up some pictures.

And nothing wrong with being picky, especially for something you'll use all the time. If you just get something close enough, you'll end up buying twice.

~ Carson

Would love to see pics if you build one. My "company" is the gov, so most of the gov machinest/fab workers are either too lazy to do it, or wouldn't want to get caught doing something not on contract which I can't blame them for, so I can't make a science project out of a DIY one, although I do miss the days when I had full access to a machine shop to fab whatever stuff I could think up.

Let me throw another one at ya. Stubby 1/4" ratchet.drill the handle for the key chain and wear the sockets on a necklace :thumbup:. Hell man . You could get std, metrics, deep 12 and 6 points. Look like Mr. T ! ( Mr. Tool):bounce:

LMAO yeah that'd go over well in the shipyard haha :lol_hitti


That's actually a pretty cool piece!

I know, I know, it's not what you're looking for but I have to suggest it anyway. I really like this gearwrench set and it's small enough to fit in a pants pocket (maybe not comfortably for extended periods but nonetheless it will fit).

www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0062FSAVI?pc_redir=1411846420&robot_redir=1

I already have the quad box gear wrenches. I want a ratchet to be mostly ratchet and less multi-tool-ratchet since it's such a frequently used tool that too many combination things about a ratchet it can get clunky/awkward fast, thats why about my only compromise on it would be in-handle storage. Plus I plan on just having 1 or 2 extensions in my bag so I want it to use standard sockets/extensions, unlike that kobalt xtreme access one.

Shuffling through a bag? Carrying a bulky case? Beware the slippery slope you create when rationalizing your choice (in-handle socket storage, only) necessitates exaggerated marginalizing of alternatives, as you are doing, here.

I've had a career of customizing yachts, where much of the work had to be done, in situ. So hauling tools is not something new to me. Putting together an emergency roadside tool kit for a motorcycle is good practice, where even thin pattern wrenches might be chosen just to save weight and bulk. Look at what professionals are using. Ask yourself if maybe they know something. Avoid gimmicks. It is understandable to try to minimize size and weight of your portable tool kit. But it seems unwise to compromise the functionality and ergonomics of the tools, for that sake, as well as so severely limiting one's selection.

Spit out that mouthful before you start choking lol. "necessitates exaggerated marginalizing alternatives"? lmao. What the hell are you even trying to say? :willy_nil I'm well aware my requirements and preferences are limiting my options, thats why I started a thread to see what else is out there because it's a very narrow field to choose from. Ask professionals what they are using? I am the professional for this case, right now I've got a bag that can be lighter, with tools that can be more compact, with solutions that probably exist out there but it's a niche set of requirements making the options limited. Not talking about a yacht with easy access on/off to get other tools out of a vehicle, or even more room to walk around, or places to leave stuff sitting. Not talking about a motorcycle with a compartment to hold small tools for very infrequent use. I'm talking about aircraft carriers and spending 12+ hours a day going from end to end and top to bottom around the ship, with not always an option to even be able to get on shore to grab other tools, and having to always keep everything on me or it'll disappear, and continually having to go in and out of enclosures. That all drives a very specific requirement set for minimal light weight compact tools that still are somewhat ergonomic/functional. My crazy needs aren't just out of the sky.

There's a balance pointline between compromising functionality and ergonomics vs. minimizing size and weight. It doesn't have to be all to one side or the other, and it doesn't have to be the same for every person.

In my garage I have tools for maximium functionality and ergonomics. They fill several tool chests and certainly don't minimize size or weight because it's not a constraint at all.

In my truck I have a tool kit that isn't as functional as my garage, but all fits in 1 case, too heavy to carry around, but not too heavy to have sitting under the rear seat of the truck.

In my bag that I'm carrying 12 hours a day, and crawling through tight spaces, I need just the bare minimum core tools, taking up the minimal amount of space, but for frequent use where every 15 or 30 minutes I'm opening up another enclosure, so trying to fiddle with a single leatherman multitool isn't a realistic all-in-one to use, and neither is pushing around a tool cart with 500 lbs of tools.

So make it with Tee at one end. That won't roll...

you could even have a sub-compartment in the tee.

lol then that's back to way too bulky.
 

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Seems like if a ratchet had sockets built into it, it'd be heavy. Maybe get a small portable locking toolbox. Sheesh, what kind of ship are you going to be on where the tools would disappear instantly? A pirate ship? :)
 

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I already have the quad box gear wrenches. I want a ratchet to be mostly ratchet and less multi-tool-ratchet since it's such a frequently used tool that too many combination things about a ratchet it can get clunky/awkward fast, thats why about my only compromise on it would be in-handle storage. Plus I plan on just having 1 or 2 extensions in my bag so I want it to use standard sockets/extensions, unlike that kobalt xtreme

I understand your point.

It's a bit ratchet though not a quad box wrench that's why I like it. It has an adapter so you can use regular quarter inch drive sockets/extensions on it and also use it for all the bits that come with it.
 

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...Ask professionals what they are using? I am the professional for this case, right now I've got a bag that can be lighter, with tools that can be more compact, with solutions that probably exist out there but it's a niche set of requirements making the options limited...
I need just the bare minimum core tools, taking up the minimal amount of space, but for frequent use where every 15 or 30 minutes I'm opening up another enclosure...

Sure, sure. But many others have done this very same job, before. But so far no one has found the need to fabricate an especially bulky and clumsy 1/4"-drive ratchet, just so you have to fiddle with a handle load of sockets every time you need one. :drool: :)
 
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Seems like if a ratchet had sockets built into it, it'd be heavy. Maybe get a small portable locking toolbox. Sheesh, what kind of ship are you going to be on where the tools would disappear instantly? A pirate ship? :)

It's net weight I'm looking to minimize overall, not necessarily just the individual tools themselves. I don't care if the ratchet itself weighs a few ounces more, but overall less tools to carry = less weight on my back 60+ hours a week. Multitools minimize weight, but some are too multi-oriented that they aren't ergonomic at all. In the case of the ratchet other than composite ones, I'm not saving weight there, but in this case I'm looking to save space and loose tools with compact in-handle storage.

Just like those quad-box ratcheting wrenches. They're going to be heavier individually than an individual single-box ratcheting wrench, but I only need to carry 2 instead of 8 so its less net weight on my back and less stuff to shuffle through in my bag. While it's not going to be quite as "smooth" operating as a single-box ratcheting wrench, it is going to be much nicer than a single open end adjustable wrench to putz with. If I only had to use it maybe once per day, an adjustable would probably be fine. But since I have to use it continuously throughout the day, the 2 ratcheting quad boxes beats out the single adjustable open end.

A portable locking toolbox doesn't help. As I mentioned I'm talking about an aircraft carrier, they are ******** huge floating cities, so not only huge to be lugging a heavy toolbox on, but impractical to leave a box locked up somewhere and have to keep going back and forth to it, and restrictions/inspections on anything that comes on board (wait in line to have a box inspected every time on/off.....or walk right through with a small pouch of tools). And it may as well be a pirate ship when there's thousands of blue collar shipyard workers working throughout the ship, any tools left out for even a few minutes quickly disappear and end up in someone else's back pack.


Sure, sure. But many others have done this very same job, before. But so far no one has found the need to fabricate an especially bulky and clumsy 1/4"-drive ratchet, just so you have to fiddle with a handle load of sockets every time you need one. :drool: :)

Yes many have done this job before, and you know their methods? It's usually one of two things....A.) Carry around a 40 lb bag filled with tools, complaining all day their bag weighs a ton. Having a plastic bag full of sockets in one pocket of it, having to every time take the bag out, and shuffle through it trying to find the right socket. And having to dig through all the pockets of the bag each time since there's so many single-purpose tools. or B.) Carry around a gerber/leatherman multi-tool, nothing else, and either fumble around for way too long trying to use the clunky tool but they don't care they're a gov worker paid by the hour, or just keep walking on and off the ship for 1 tool even though that can take an hour itself, but again they don't care they're a gov worker.

It's not like every home depot, lowes, pepboys, etc. sells tools designed for this niche need since for most it's either one or the other......Lots of single-purpose tools and no weight/size constraint......or few multi-purpose tools and not for frequent/daily/hourly use. My situation is a little funky since it's a fine line between the two and there's not a big demand for that so there's not a big market for that.
 

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Have you considered maybe breaking up the load a bit? In particular a stubby 1/4'' ratchet and the sockets you need in one of those flexible rubber socket holders? Put them in a multi-tool sheath and keep that on your belt. I used to hate the idea of something hanging off my belt until I tried it. I have a horizontal carry sheath that holds my multi, a pen, small flashlight and a lighter. Never even know it's there. Just a thought.
 

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...many have done this job before, and you know their methods? It's usually one of two things....A.) Carry around a 40 lb bag filled with tools, complaining all day their bag weighs a ton. Having a plastic bag full of sockets in one pocket of it, having to every time take the bag out, and shuffle through it trying to find the right socket. And having to dig through all the pockets of the bag each time since there's so many single-purpose tools. or B.) Carry around a gerber/leatherman multi-tool, nothing else, and either fumble around for way too long trying to use the clunky tool but they don't care they're a gov worker paid by the hour, or just keep walking on and off the ship for 1 tool even though that can take an hour itself, but again they don't care they're a gov worker...

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This is available in 1/4, 3/8, 1/2. I haven't seen the 1/2 but the 3/8 will fit into your pocket.
In not sure if it's available in SAE but you could switch the sockets if not.

http://www.hls.ie/products-page/socket-sets/teng-ratchet-set-with-sockets/

That's a pretty nice/compact setup. I like that one, too bad it's an overseas site. I'll have to try searching a bit more and see if I can find another source for it.

Get a dogbone wrench :lol_hitti

those things ****, a gaint baseball sized ratchet head trying to fit on a 1/4" nut in an enclosed space, I'd rather carry individual sockets lol.

Have you considered maybe breaking up the load a bit? In particular a stubby 1/4'' ratchet and the sockets you need in one of those flexible rubber socket holders? Put them in a multi-tool sheath and keep that on your belt. I used to hate the idea of something hanging off my belt until I tried it. I have a horizontal carry sheath that holds my multi, a pen, small flashlight and a lighter. Never even know it's there. Just a thought.

I've already got my cell phone, flashlight, and multitool on my belt. But if the hand tools are compact enough to fit on a belt, I don't mind them in the bag, just trying to consolidate where I can to a level that makes sense. Don't want too many things on a belt clip, lots of tight spaces they do end up getting caught on in a ship.

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lmao, you shouldn't have subscribed or posted in the first place if you're one of those just stuck in your own ways, or think there's only 1 way to skin a cat. I'm trying to find some clever tool solutions, heck I'm posting on a tool-enthusiast subforum here, if you just like basic tools, why bother even clicking in this section lol



Video won't load for me right now, I'll have to check it out again later from another computer
 

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Facom do a few awesome 1/4 drive sets with screwdriver bits.. Probably not the cleverest system but they are compact and very well made. The cases can be carried in a good size pocket.. There's plenty of images on google but they appear a bit larger than they actually are..
 

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^^^^i think he may be right. i got a bad vibe from that paragraph.


i kind of went with you on this until you seem to have copped an attitude. i understand you wanting something but the more i hear your responses the less impressed i am. people on multiple sites have given you good info and ideas and you have fairly well dismissed them as not knowing what you need. yes you get some bs from people who don't know anything but you don't seem to be getting much of that. well i hate to break this too you buddy, there are not many people who come on the net saying my job is so completely different that i need something that nobody else has ever had a use for.

if i was using a tool that often, i would damn sure not be taking a cap on and off and dumping sockets in and out of the handle countless times a day. get a nice ratchet and a nice rail and mount the few sockets you need on a regular basis. it will keep them organised for sight inventory and the rail can be trimmed for length to take the least amount of room. the minute amount of space it consumes and the weight you save would more than likely be very little.

getting a decent tool roll or compartmented carrier seems like it may be more important but then none of us know what we are talking about anyway.

my opinion and i doubt we would ever know for sure is this. the op thinks a ratchet with sockets in the handle is a great idea (it is for carrying in the glove compartment or in a motorcycle tool pouch for infrequent use) but i think he would soon get real tired of the extra steps to load and unload it and the constant rattling and shifting of the sockets in the handle in frequent use
 
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