Wolverine floor for my Gas Station Workshop

[WolverineCoatings]

WolverineCoatings - Is scraping necessary? Will the Endurashield help push the flakes back down it will it pretty much stand out? With a light or medium flake coverage, can we skip this step or is it necessary? I don't remember other wolverine users mention scraping in their threads.

They are not talking about a 'hard' scrape. This point of this step is to break off any flakes that have not fallen flat. As you can imagine, some of the flakes will fall and stick directly into the liquid and will not fall over flat. Just for a second, imaging that you have thrown 100 pieces of plate glass into the air. Many of those pieces are going to fall and lay flat on the ground. However, some of them are going to hit and 'stick' into the ground.

So, when you scrape (or broom) the floor at this point it is simply to break off those rebel flakes who didn't just lay down quietly.

 

[Westtexass2k]

Roger55 I sent you a PM. I would like to come look at your floor. I am in San Angelo too.

 

[mike_c70]

Thanks to both roger and wolverine. I haven't had a chance of reading the instructions so I wasn't sure whether it was mentioned or not. What do I look for at home depot or lowes? Floor scraper?

 

[AlphaGarage]

For a scraper you can use almost any wide blade tool, no need to go buy anything extra if you already have a suitable implement. If you have a large area, or plan on doing a few floors, there are specialized tools used to lift old tile, linoleum, and carpeting. For smaller areas a wide blade putty scraper, or wall mudding blade works fine.

 

[roger55]

Leftover BondTite used on Workbench

Today, I completed my workbench with VCT on top. I special ordered pure black and pure white VCT tiles from Lowes and cut them into 5" squares.
I sanded the tiles with 80 grit and coated them with BondTite.
Wow, this stuff really self-levels nicely.
After the epoxy cures, I will put on 1 1/4" aluminum edging. The 1/8" tiles are glued onto to 1 1/8 OSB flooring so the edging will fit perfectly.

 

[Old61]

The floor came out great! Just like the rest of the build! Thanks for sharing!

 

[Tman]

I really dig that floor!

 

[wuneyewilly]

Outstanding work! I too was leaning towards either Quikrete or UCoat It but will be contacting Fred soon...is there a GarageJournal discount

Question about the edges. Since the material film build ends up so thick and it appears you hardline taped the edges, how are they holding up and will the 'lips' become vulnerabilities? How about wall butted edges? Did you back brush edges first or after the main coating?

How about voids, flaws, expansion joints, etc? Did you repair or fill any cracks, voids, chips, scratches, etc? My foundation perimeter appears to have been poured first, then the garage pad. Where they meet is expansion board which obviously wasnt given attention to detail. There are some voids and I have scraped away the thin layer of concrete that was sporadically trowelled to create bridges.

Lastly, was the grinding recommended and was your surface that heavily soiled? What about degreasing, pressure washing, TSP scrubbing, muradic acid etching, etc instead of grinding?

Thanks again for keeping such a detailed progression of your project. I am very glad to have stumbled across this before I went down an alternative avenue.

Oh, and it looked like you poured out the middle coating and used a squeegee before rolling. Is this how you applied all three coatings? Pour, spread w/ squeegee and then refine with roller?

Thanks again!

 

[roger55]

Outstanding work! I too was leaning towards either Quikrete or UCoat It but will be contacting Fred soon...is there a GarageJournal discount

You will be happy with Wolverine. Take your time and plan your job. As I said earlier, the Wolverine is far superior but does take more planning. Read all you can on this board and ask lots of questions.

Question about the edges. Since the material film build ends up so thick and it appears you hardline taped the edges, how are they holding up and will the 'lips' become vulnerabilities? How about wall butted edges? Did you back brush edges first or after the main coating?

The only taping I did was at the door opening thresholds. I repainted my baseboards after doing the floor. No, edges aren't an issue at all.

How about voids, flaws, expansion joints, etc? Did you repair or fill any cracks, voids, chips, scratches, etc? My foundation perimeter appears to have been poured first, then the garage pad. Where they meet is expansion board which obviously wasnt given attention to detail. There are some voids and I have scraped away the thin layer of concrete that was sporadically trowelled to create bridges.

I didn't have any expansion joints. I did fill a few voids and very small cracks with Loc-Tite epoxy that comes in 4oz bottles at Lowes. Check with Fred about what he thinks you should do with yours. It sounds to me like the IntegraFlex might be a good option for you.

Lastly, was the grinding recommended and was your surface that heavily soiled? What about degreasing, pressure washing, TSP scrubbing, muradic acid etching, etc instead of grinding?

My concrete was new. I used a grinder because I hate using acid. I think it also works better. Having now done both, I would never do acid again.

Thanks again for keeping such a detailed progression of your project. I am very glad to have stumbled across this before I went down an alternative avenue.

Oh, and it looked like you poured out the middle coating and used a squeegee before rolling. Is this how you applied all three coatings? Pour, spread w/ squeegee and then refine with roller?

Yes, that is the procedure for BondTite and LiquaTile. But the EnduraShield is rolled on out of a pan.

Thanks again!

You bet. I am glad that I could help you.

 

[ProGun3400]

Very Impressive! Hats off to you for taking the extra time along the way for write-ups and pictures.

Forgot to say, Awesome garage also........

 

[rambo benson]

Roger, Thanks for this. Incredible help!
Best Regards, Rambo Benson

 

[Dabiscuitboy]

Just wanted to say.... DAMN... That is SWEET!!!!!! I dig the countertop! GREAT idea! Thanks for the writeup, pics and advice.

 

[roger55]

Update

The following magazine was released today:
(See both of these two links)

Hot off the Press - Great Garage Makeovers

Magazine Description

My shop has 3 pages in the "Man Caves and Garage Nuts" section and Wolverine gets a plug for my floor and workbench.

Pretty exciting!

Click Here for the Build Thread

 

[WolverineCoatings]

thanks Roger! We appreciate your business!

 

[Kevin54]

Congrats Roger I do hope you got a few copies and then take one and frame the article to hang in the garage

 

[larryv]

Your place is just beautiful. Great Job! keep the pictures coming.

 

[xscorex]

awesome thread. Looks great. I just realized Wolverine is in Spartanburg SC, Right by my work! hmm. Looks like this will be a must do on my man palace renovation

 

[xscorex]

whats the average cost for a 2 car garage if i went this route? Did i miss this in another thread?

 

[Falcon67]

I'm just going to have to plan a trip down to San Angelo. Very nice work - congratulations on making the magazine article!

 

[roger55]

Oh,

I wanted to add that my floor is holding up just great! It will be 2 years old this Christmas.

I built up this frame right where it is sitting so I've been using this shop!

(btw, my new avatar is inspiration for what I am building )

 

[MRooney]

Thank you for the comprehensive postings on your Wolverine experiences. I am a new home owner with a great barn that can hold multiple cars. The floor is concrete and in excellent shape and I was looking to coat it with something durable. I am so happy I found your postings as I was going to use other brands... now I am going with Wolverine.
Looking forward!
M

 

[TylerStepp]

Guys and gals I'm between wolverine, epoxy-coat, and Epoxy guard It for me home two car garage please help not sure what to do? Thanks

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Flip a quarter?

 

[retfr8flyr]

Guys and gals I'm between wolverine, epoxy-coat, and Epoxy guard It for me home two car garage please help not sure what to do? Thanks

I can say the Wolverine products are great, I did my garage this summer with their products, from Alpha Garage and I am very happy with the results. I can't say on the others but you can't go wrong with the Wolverine coatings.


Earl

 

[hldtyt]

4 years later and my Wolverine floor looks great. Just power washed it the other day and it cleaned right up. Can't go wrong with it. I also did my inlaws with expoxy coat and quartz and it is holding equally well. I love quartz! Both were clear coated as well.

 

[roger55]

Latest project on my floor. It's coming up 5 years old now.

Restoring a '57 Chevy pickup for my wife.

I'm prepping and painting the frame outdoors right now and it will be coming inside to be built up.

Here's some of the stuff ready for it:

 

[FFPL]

Latest project on my floor. It's coming up 5 years old now.

Hey Roger floor still looks great. Love the motor. Wife must be really happy. My floor still look pretty good too. Best thing I did was the epoxy.

 

[roadrunner255]

Some of you may be following my workshop build thread in the "Garage Gallery" forum. Here's a link if you haven't seen it:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8044&goto=newpost

I will document the progress of my Wolverine floor in this thread.

I am going to do the main floor area (660 ft2) with the Wolverine system.
(It is presently on order from AlphaGarage.)
My order:
BondTite - 3 gallons (1 - 3 gallon kit)
LiquaTile - 6 gallons (2 - 3 gallon kits of Silver Gray)
EnduraShield - 3.75 gallons (3 - 1.25 gallon kits)
DecoFlakes - 20 pounds each of Midnight Black, Snow White and Spruce Green all in the large 1/4" size
Spiked shoes
24" notched squeegee and frame

So, my intentions are to do a 5 mil coat of BondTite, a 14.5 mil coat of LiquaTile and two 4.5 mil coats (wet) of EnduraShield. This will give me a total dry thickness of 27.7 mils.

After much thought about how to prep the floor, I decided to go the hand grinding route and already have completed it.
I purchased a 7" diamond cup and put it on a new Hitachi (6,000 rpm) grinder with a Dustie shield. After trying a test area, I really had trouble controlling it. It ground too fast and I just couldn't get an even grind without gouges.
So, I bought a cheap grinder/polisher from AutoZone (Great Neck brand) just to try it out as it is a variable speed with a maximum of 3000 rpm. Well, it worked well. I was able to control it just fine. The job went a little slow however. It went at about 50 to 60 ft2 an hour so I stretched the whole job out over 3 days since it is kind of hard on the body. Here are pics of the gear and how the concrete looks:

The grinder rattles a little now. I am really surprised that this cheap thing lasted for the whole job but it did.. The seat really helped on the back and knees. Here is another shot showing the Hitachi I tried and a small HF 4 inch grinder and cup that worked well in corners:

So, now I am ready for the epoxy to arrive and watch the weather for a good 3 to 4 day warm stretch to do the coats. Luckily, San Angelo doesn't stay cold for very long at a time so I think I should be able to get started soon.

My next post and photos will be during the application of the BondTite.

Stay tuned and wish me good luck .....

Good morning,
When you say you did your main floor, what did you do with the rest of the flooring and what was your total footage?

Reason I ask is my garage/workshop is 1500 sq ft and I am trying to decide whether I should do the whole garage or just the area where the lift is.

Thanks and Happy New Year!

 

[roger55]

Good morning,
When you say you did your main floor, what did you do with the rest of the flooring and what was your total footage?
Reason I ask is my garage/workshop is 1500 sq ft and I am trying to decide whether I should do the whole garage or just the area where the lift is.
Thanks and Happy New Year!

My shop is 24X48 so that's 1152 ft2.

Heres my layout:



The 14X24 stall on the right is what I use for heavy-duty type work like grinding, welding and painting. I used Epoxycoat at about 15 mils with no clear on the floor in there. It's seen all kinds of abuse but has held up well. Sure doesn't look like a new floor anymore though but that's OK. If I ever want it to look nice in there again, I'll have to recoat it.

The bathroom in the rear left is tiled. And the other 2 small rooms are where my water heater, washer/dryer, air compressor, parts washer and bead blaster are. I just used Rustoleum Epoxy in there.

So the large main area (700 ft2) is where I used the Wolverine system. It's what I wanted to have look the best. Kind of a showplace but as you can see, I do plenty of light mechanic work in there too.

 

[roger55]

Got an update on the floor 15 years after it was applied. Plus some news. As of last June, We sold the property and moved to Colorado and thus my beloved gas station workshop is no longer mine. These are the photos our listing real estate agent took. The floor still looked great after 15 years:


And here is right after the movers loaded all my stuff:


I built up a couple of chassis in there. And lot's of other mechanical work over the years.

I will always have fond memories but am now focused on my new workshop.
More on that to come. I will be doing an epoxy floor and just sent in my order to AlphaGarage.

 

[roger55]

Started a new thread for the Epoxy floor I'm going to apply in my new (to me) workshop:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...r-for-the-rear-section-of-my-workshop.538481/

 

[meathooker]

As of last June, We sold the property and moved to Colorado and thus my beloved gas station workshop is no longer mine.


I will always have fond memories but am now focused on my new workshop.

such a great workshop - must have been very hard to leave it behind.

 

[roger55]

Thanks! And, absolutely.

But the blow was softened since we bought our new home in Colorado 4 months before we put the Texas property on the Market and actually made the move. And, even though we had been thinking about moving to Colorado for a couple of years and knew the area we wanted to go to, we didn't decide to actually do it until 2 months before we bought the new place.

When we started looking for a place to buy, I did have a criteria that it either had a workshop or at least enough property to be able to build one. My wife actually found the property we bought and fell in love with the house. I liked the house a lot but was floored that it had a 3,200 sqft detached workshop on top of a nice 3-car garage attached to the house. Way bigger than I thought we would find or would have built myself.

The workshop was built really well too and has a in-floor radiant heating system with a natural gas boiler. Stays 67 degrees inside 24hours a day through the winter. It has a drain in the front section so cars can be washed inside. The floor was precision leveled so it leaves no standing water. It all heads to the drain.

I felt that the home was a very, very lucky find. Here's the inside of my new workshop back in February after the movers put in all my stuff:




Here's how I have it looking now:

 

[ybnormal]

Thanks! And, absolutely.

But the blow was softened since we bought our new home in Colorado 4 months before we put the Texas property on the Market and actually made the move. And, even though we had been thinking about moving to Colorado for a couple of years and knew the area we wanted to go to, we didn't decide to actually do it until 2 months before we bought the new place.

When we started looking for a place to buy, I did have a criteria that it either had a workshop or at least enough property to be able to build one. My wife actually found the property we bought and fell in love with the house. I liked the house a lot but was floored that it had a 3,200 sqft detached workshop on top of a nice 3-car garage attached to the house. Way bigger than I thought we would find or would have built myself.

The workshop was built really well too and has a in-floor radiant heating system with a natural gas boiler. Stays 67 degrees inside 24hours a day through the winter. It has a drain in the front section so cars can be washed inside. The floor was precision leveled so it leaves no standing water. It all heads to the drain.

I felt that the home was a very, very lucky find. Here's the inside of my new workshop back in February after the movers put in all my stuff:




Here's how I have it looking now:

don't think I've seen you on ECC or gbodyf for awhile. sounds like the move was the best thing you did and you lucked out getting that home with that garage!

 

[roger55]

don't think I've seen you on ECC or gbodyf for awhile. sounds like the move was the best thing you did and you lucked out getting that home with that garage!

I lurk on those forums. I get a weekly email that reminds me to. Same with the Pontiac Years and GTO forums. Check in from time to time. Haven't been doing any car stuff since moving. We have been and still are doing a lot of things with the house to make it our own. I find that just as much fun.
Did you catch my posts about lucking out that this property falls just barely on the correct side of the line for not needing to have my El Camino emission tested? Here's a link if you missed that:
https://gbodyforum.com/threads/colorado-emissions-testing-questions.85212/
Look at the map I posted on page 5.

 

[ybnormal]

I lurk on those forums. I get a weekly email that reminds me to. Same with the Pontiac Years and GTO forums. Check in from time to time. Haven't been doing any car stuff since moving. We have been and still are doing a lot of things with the house to make it our own. I find that just as much fun.
Did you catch my posts about lucking out that this property falls just barely on the correct side of the line for not needing to have my El Camino emission tested? Here's a link if you missed that:
https://gbodyforum.com/threads/colorado-emissions-testing-questions.85212/
Look at the map I posted on page 5.

I'd forgotten about the emissions, I just remember the HEEEE-YUUUUUGE garage! that's like the proverbial 2 kids in one house but because of where the bedrooms are and the school district boundary line that runs right thru the middle of the house, one goes to one school district and the other the other.