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Kenskip1

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OK here is my quandary, I need a impact wrench that will remove tires ext.I have a C3 less than a year old. It has Ni cad battery's. Now I am looking at Dewalt 1/2 drive 18 volt cordless.This model has 300 lbs of torque. Should I buy the Lithium battery and charger for the C3, or simply invest in the Dewalt?
For around another $120 I can get the new Dewalt (tool only)at my local HD. I have the charger and battery 18 volt from another Dewalt product (3/8)Any suggestions? Thanks Ken
 
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I would skip any DeWalt options your exploring and either pick up a Snap-on CT6850/7850/8850 or a Milwaukee Fuel High Torque. Milwaukee is going to be the cheapest, unless you can find a deal on a used Snap-on.

Any of the above options will run circles around the Dewalt. 300 ft lbs in the impact world is not a whole lot these days.
 

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300 ft/lb is not a lot these days... in what context? By comparison with other tools on the market? Or are fasteners suddenly getting torqued down more than they used to?

If the OP is using it for working on normal cars changing tires and the like, I'd say 300 ft/lb is probably fine. If he's working in a shop as a diesel tech five days a week then maybe not. FWIW I use a C3 with the larger lithium XCP battery at home and it handles my lugs just fine. I've got Milwaukee Fuel at the shop though.
 

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300 ft/lb is not a lot these days... in what context? By comparison with other tools on the market? Or are fasteners suddenly getting torqued down more than they used to?

If the OP is using it for working on normal cars changing tires and the like, I'd say 300 ft/lb is probably fine. If he's working in a shop as a diesel tech five days a week then maybe not. FWIW I use a C3 with the larger lithium XCP battery at home and it handles my lugs just fine. I've got Milwaukee Fuel at the shop though.

Compared to other tools on the market.

Originally I faced the same dilemma as OP, I was heavily vested into the Makita LXT line, so it was a no brainer to buy the impact tool only, also rated similarly at 325 ft lbs. The thing was a major disappointment. It didn't have the power to break loose lug nuts on my GMC 3500 Dually. They only call for 148 ft lbs iirc.

So I picked up a Snap-on CT6850 and it would zip them on and off no problems. All was good. Recently I decided to switch to Milwaukee, as I've been using them at work for the better part of a year, and they hold up well. I switched mainly to consolidate batteries, as I had Makita, Snap-on, and Dewalt.

Buy once, Cry once. I stand by my original recommendation. Fuel Kit with 2 batteries for $ 329.99 was too hard to pass up. Buy into the best system you can now and it'll be cheaper than upgrading to something else a few times over the next few years because what you have isn't cutting it.
 
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The only thing that ***** about them are the batteries and warranties (or lack of). Co worker of mine was a frequent customer with the snap on truck. He picked up a snap on cordless impact and had never used it. Went to use it, the battery was dead as all get out. Wouldn't hold a charge, take a charge, nothing. Asked about a replacement for it, nope. Sorry, drain your wallet on snappy and no warranty on batteries. If I recall correctly another battery was over $100. It wasn't like he'd used it to death for 3yrs then expected a replacement, he just wanted a working battery like he purchased and snappy managed to drain his wallet on a premo priced tool then sucker him by welching on the defunct battery.
 

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The only thing that ***** about them are the batteries and warranties (or lack of). Co worker of mine was a frequent customer with the snap on truck. He picked up a snap on cordless impact and had never used it. Went to use it, the battery was dead as all get out. Wouldn't hold a charge, take a charge, nothing. Asked about a replacement for it, nope. Sorry, drain your wallet on snappy and no warranty on batteries. If I recall correctly another battery was over $100. It wasn't like he'd used it to death for 3yrs then expected a replacement, he just wanted a working battery like he purchased and snappy managed to drain his wallet on a premo priced tool then sucker him by welching on the defunct battery.

He had a ****** dealer. Batteries are under warranty for 12 months. Milwaukee's 3 year battery and 5 year tool warranty has everyone on the market beat at the moment.
 

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I wasn't sure on the milwaukee, I knew they had the longest warranty right now..and yea, it did ****. Especially for a tech who bought regularly, needless to say that about did him in for snap on. He started giving his business to cornwell.
 

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I would skip any DeWalt options your exploring and either pick up a Snap-on CT6850/7850/8850 or a Milwaukee Fuel High Torque. Milwaukee is going to be the cheapest, unless you can find a deal on a used Snap-on.

Any of the above options will run circles around the Dewalt. 300 ft lbs in the impact world is not a whole lot these days.

I second this. I prefer the CT6850 because of the ni-cd batteries and no lag when you pull the trigger like you get with the CT7850 and those damn li-ion batteries that also don't last as long and cost more too. I'm sure the Milwaukee is great too.
 

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He had a ****** dealer. Batteries are under warranty for 12 months. Milwaukee's 3 year battery and 5 year tool warranty has everyone on the market beat at the moment.

And dont forget that they pay round-trip shipping both ways.......ZERO money out of your pocket to get your tools, batteries, or chargers fixed or replaced when under warranty.
 

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Don't forget that the numbers the manufacturers put out for a product is almost always woefully over exaggerated. See any testing video or results for almost any pneumatic impact wrench out there. My first was a CH rated at 250lb-ft. Wouldn't remove lug nuts I had just put on with a torque wrench to 110lb-ft.
I have heard a Milwaukee 18V non fuel will handle lug nuts on cars and some light trucks. My ol man had told me the mechanic at the plant he was working at (waste disposal) used one regularly, but without seeing it first hand it's tough for me to believe it wasn't a fluke.
 
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First off thanks for the input.Milwaukee is out of my price range.Snap On is over priced and over rated IMHO.My C3 will not remove lug nuts on my F150. I require something with a bit more muscle.As mentioned I have a charger and a battery for the Dewalt if I purchase the 1/2 drive impact wrench.
Quite simply, will the C3 with Lithium Ion batteries be able to remove the lugs on my F150/? It will remove the lug nuts on my wife's van. I am between a rock and a tight place. My budget is limited. Thanks for the replies, Ken
 

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First off thanks for the input.Milwaukee is out of my price range.Snap On is over priced and over rated IMHO.My C3 will not remove lug nuts on my F150. I require something with a bit more muscle.As mentioned I have a charger and a battery for the Dewalt if I purchase the 1/2 drive impact wrench.
Quite simply, will the C3 with Lithium Ion batteries be able to remove the lugs on my F150/? It will remove the lug nuts on my wife's van. I am between a rock and a tight place. My budget is limited. Thanks for the replies, Ken

There are too many variables to be able to tell you whether the C3 with Li-on will be able to remove them. What spec were they torqued to? Whens the last time they were off? Corrosion will affect it also. Last F150 I worked on, the lug nuts were so rusted on even my air impact couldn't touch them. I would get the most powerful impact available, if out of your price range, save a little longer, you'll be happier in the long run.
 
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If you're budget is really limited use the old standby - by hand.
I rarely pull out a compressor to do lugnuts on my ram 2500. Factory tools shattered 2nd winter I had it at 2am in 2 feet of snow when I had a flat - so I carry a 1/2 breaker bar with correct socket and a 4 foot section of lightweight pipe. Antenna mast or top rail from a chain link fence, gives me an extra 2 feet and all the force I need to remove them. I doubt the Dewalt will do any better than the C3 and unless you're needing to pull the wheels off your F150 very often it's really just an excuse to put another tool in the box. (not that there's really anything wrong with that, but waiting may let you afford a better tool for the task)
 

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Milwaukee's warranty fucked me big time on batteries, **** new out of the box and a $30 credit to a new $130 battery. I am Mr. SO ni cad now. My oldest batteries are dying now at 6 years, three times longer then my Milwaukee's li ion. $100 for a new ni cad battery that is damn near equal to at least the li ion I'm use to is an OK deal.
 

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OK here is my quandary, I need a impact wrench that will remove tires ext.I have a C3 less than a year old. It has Ni cad battery's. Now I am looking at Dewalt 1/2 drive 18 volt cordless.This model has 300 lbs of torque. Should I buy the Lithium battery and charger for the C3, or simply invest in the Dewalt?
For around another $120 I can get the new Dewalt (tool only)at my local HD. I have the charger and battery 18 volt from another Dewalt product (3/8)Any suggestions? Thanks Ken


First off thanks for the input.Milwaukee is out of my price range.Snap On is over priced and over rated IMHO.My C3 will not remove lug nuts on my F150. I require something with a bit more muscle.As mentioned I have a charger and a battery for the Dewalt if I purchase the 1/2 drive impact wrench.
Quite simply, will the C3 with Lithium Ion batteries be able to remove the lugs on my F150/? It will remove the lug nuts on my wife's van. I am between a rock and a tight place. My budget is limited. Thanks for the replies, Ken

Is this the one you have?

C3 19.2-Volt Cordless 1/2" Wrench Kit
200 ft-lb of Torque
Item # 00931305000P Model # 31305

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-c3-1...p-00931305000P?prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=G3



This is the one you should have purchased -

C3 ½” Heavy Duty Impact Wrench Kit Powered by 4Ah XCP
Item # 00945195000P Model # ID2030K
Rated Up to 300 ft-lbs. of torque

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-c3-1...00945195000P?sLevel=0&redirectType=SKIP_LEVEL

http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/nb_10155_12602_DAP_C3-Battery?adcell=Cm_gNav_Power
 
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First off thanks for the input.Milwaukee is out of my price range.Snap On is over priced and over rated IMHO.My C3 will not remove lug nuts on my F150. I require something with a bit more muscle.As mentioned I have a charger and a battery for the Dewalt if I purchase the 1/2 drive impact wrench.
Quite simply, will the C3 with Lithium Ion batteries be able to remove the lugs on my F150/? It will remove the lug nuts on my wife's van. I am between a rock and a tight place. My budget is limited. Thanks for the replies, Ken

The 4Ah li ion C3 MAY do it. It puts out way more juice.
But I'd get the Dewalt or a 4 way wrench in your situation. (funds)
 

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I didn't read the whole thread but, I have the dewalt do not buy the dewalt it won't take lug nuts torqued to 140 ft/lbs
 

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Unless you reeeeeally "NEED" cordless.....just buy one of these and save yourself about half of the price of a comparable cordless impact. They run $150 at Lowes & work great. I did this review on them not too long ago & they have a 5 year warranty (with receipt....exchange at store for free....walk in & walk out). No batteries to go bad.


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I didn't read the whole thread but, I have the dewalt do not buy the dewalt it won't take lug nuts torqued to 140 ft/lbs

A good battery is a must. Mine works fine. I don't know the exact spec but I ran a 3/4 nut to 150# then cranked on it with a flex hndle with a cheater bar a 1/4 turn. 2 maybbe 250? Idk. Dewalt spin them right off. There are for sure newer items that far exceed the dewalt but yu have to weigh the cost and how much you use them.
 

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I wouldn't bother with the Dewalt. It's an outdated gun with poor ergonomics (by today's standard). If all you need an impact for is to shoot off those lug nuts, get the lithium battery. Even the compact 2ah battery delivers power better than the original nicad.
 

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Unless you reeeeeally "NEED" cordless.....just buy one of these and save yourself about half of the price of a comparable cordless impact. They run $150 at Lowes & work great. I did this review on them not too long ago & they have a 5 year warranty (with receipt....exchange at store for free....walk in & walk out). No batteries to go bad.


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I have the cordless version of this. 5 year no-hassle warranty on the batteries, too.
 

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I agree the dewalt is a waste of time and money I have had it for years, if it did take off lug nuts it usually hammered for quite a while and my 3/8 gun had them off quicker.
 
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