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After Birdmobiles post of this stuff I made it and was wicked impressed, I contacted him short after to ask him if I could make a video and now we are here lol SO here is the video hope you enjoy!

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Thank you for posting this!

You mentioned in the video that you were wondering what motivated me to come up with this. The answer is pretty simple - I really love how well the Permatex Ultra Slick (RLL) works on my ratchets, but I hate the mess. I was tired of getting the stuff in my box, on my clothes, in my eyes (DON'T do that! It hurts!). I tried the Super Lube as a possible alternative, but I just didn't like it as much - on some of my ratchets it seemed rougher and not as quiet. I hit upon the idea of a "happy balance" between the two, started mixing them together in various ratios, and half an hour later, the "Red Paste of Love" was born.

In any case, I'm glad you like it!

Just one of many garage innovations coming your way from the Bird Mobile! :)
 
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BirdMobile said:
Thank you for posting this!

You mentioned in the video that you were wondering what motivated me to come up with this. The answer is pretty simple - I really love how well the Permatex Ultra Slick (RLL) works on my ratchets, but I hate the mess. I was tired of getting the stuff in my box, on my clothes, in my eyes (DON'T do that! It hurts!). I tried the Super Lube as a possible alternative, but I just didn't like it as much - on some of my ratchets it seemed rougher and not as quiet. I hit upon the idea of a "happy balance" between the two, started mixing them together in various ratios, and half an hour later, the "Red Paste of Love" was born.

In any case, I'm glad you like it!

Just one of many garage innovations coming your way from the Bird Mobile! :)
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Looking forward to the next one lol
I still couldn't believe how quiet it makes it
 
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That's a whole lotta love goin' on there! Thanks for sharing. I'm gonna try it on my Craftsman ratchets...


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What section of Harbor Freight are you guys finding Super Lube in? I can't seem to spot it when I'm in there
 
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dgxlh said:
To bulky :bounce:
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Seriously, though...
The other posters are correct - WAY too much lube.
When I do my ratchets, I apply a THIN layer of RPL to the ratchet teeth, to the prawl toothed surface, prawl hinge, and the contact surface between the prawl and selector lever. If you pack your ratchet head too full of grease, you risk stripping the teeth out by preventing full prawl-to-ratchet teeth contact. The main thing you want to watch out for is that the grease doesn't hydraulically "jam" the prawl in its travel toward the ratchet cylinder, or build up so thickly between the teeth engagement surfaces that it keeps the teeth from fully engaging. Partial ratchet teeth engagement means they end up "riding" on the teeth tips, which can cause failure and stripping under heavy torque.

I personally use about 1/10 the amount of lube on my ratchets that you used in the video.
 
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I agree with "BirdMobile" - I damaged my GEDORE 1993 U-20 ratchet with grease. In Summer it worked very good, but in winter grease get harder and #$%$%$, I stripped tooth's! NEVER USE GREASE IN RATCHETS, Only thin coat of Oil!
 
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BirdMobile said:
Seriously, though...
The other posters are correct - WAY too much lube.
When I do my ratchets, I apply a THIN layer of RPL to the ratchet teeth, to the prawl toothed surface, prawl hinge, and the contact surface between the prawl and selector lever. If you pack your ratchet head too full of grease, you risk stripping the teeth out by preventing full prawl-to-ratchet teeth contact. The main thing you want to watch out for is that the grease doesn't hydraulically "jam" the prawl in its travel toward the ratchet cylinder, or build up so thickly between the teeth engagement surfaces that it keeps the teeth from fully engaging. Partial ratchet teeth engagement means they end up "riding" on the teeth tips, which can cause failure and stripping under heavy torque.

I personally use about 1/10 the amount of lube on my ratchets that you used in the video.
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rumb said:
I agree with "BirdMobile" - I damaged my GEDORE 1993 U-20 ratchet with grease. In Summer it worked very good, but in winter grease get harder and #$%$%$, I stripped tooth's! NEVER USE GREASE IN RATCHETS, Only thin coat of Oil!
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Who cares? If you can wreck things and just return them, why not?:spit:
 
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You have to remember this isn't a sealed ratchet all excess lube will work its way out to its own perfect balance so I could of dumped that whole mix in there and it would still work its way out. Yeah its a messier way to do it but I don't mind. If it was a sealed ratchet I'd be more sparing but I don't grease my sealed ratchets.

And honestly at the end of the day its all preference, some say more some say less some say oil some say nothing. Its all preference
 
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dgxlh said:
And honestly at the end of the day its all preference, some say more some say less some say oil some say nothing. Its all preference
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A half dozen people in this thread - including the person you set out to emulate - have told you that's wrong and that you missed the whole point of the exercise, but you're adamant that "it's all just preference." Kinda seems that your preference is to do it wrong.
 
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Zrexxer said:
A half dozen people in this thread - including the person you set out to emulate - have told you that's wrong and that you missed the whole point of the exercise, but you're adamant that "it's all just preference." Kinda seems that your preference is to do it wrong.
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I am pretty sure the exercise was to show us how to combine two products to create another product that may work well for lubing tools. And at the same time he is just showing the points in a ratchet he would apply some lube, the amount is up to the user. The OP even states in the video that he is using too much...he is admitting it, you and everyone else do not need to beat him up over it.

Again it was a video to show how to make the "The Red Paste of Love", people with either be intrigued and try it out, or not care and do what they always do to lube their ratchets.

Either way, OP, I appreciate your post (and BirdMobile for creating it) and I will have to try out this mixture on my 3/8" Nepros.
 
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Thanks for the video. I did that with my ratchets last week and got the same results,super quiet,smooth ratchets! Well,almost the same-I don't have people riding me for doing it.:bounce:
 
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Finally got done. Every single ratchet quieted down significantly. Even the old craftsman that's older that me! Did realize I need to rebuild the old snap on I've got tho..
 
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dgxlh said:
Please let me know how that works. I want to know how quiet they get
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Just got done doing all 3 of my C-Man ratchets. My 3/8" was so dry, I could barely turn it by hand. The 1/4" was not bad, but was clicking pretty loud. The 1/2" was loud also, about like the 1/4". Makes sense, as I use the 3/8" the most.

So I mixed up the paste and lightly coated the gears and pawls. Put them back together and I gotta say, the difference is like night and day. They all are smooth as silk, with just a hint of clicking.

I'm sold! The Red Paste of Love is the ****!

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Asked the wife to get me the permatex ultra slick and she came home with two bottles of Lucas brand assembly lube for the price of one.

It is colored green so I made the "green paste of love" and tried it on a few ratchets, worked fine at quieting them down.

BTW, she went to Autozone and that is what they had. I went to Advance and got the Permatex so now I have a choice of colors.

And all my ratchets except for the roto head ones from HF are super quiet now.

I would love to learn how to open them up to lube
 
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I recall repacking a Craftsman RP ratchet with Campagnolo bike grease probably thirty five years ago. Seemed like a good idea at the time, and boy was it quiet. After a few years the dried grease was kind of a mess and not doing much but gum up the works. Never quite got to the point where the pawls wouldn't engage although the quick release button got gummy.

Taught me that light lube in a ratchet is best and that silent operation is not the only thing to judge a ratchet's mantenance.

The lube mix looks like a reasonable idea, and maybe time will convince you all the folks who say to use less -- a lot less -- might know what they're talking about.
 
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4xdog said:
I recall repacking a Craftsman RP ratchet with Campagnolo bike grease probably thirty five years ago. Seemed like a good idea at the time, and boy was it quiet. After a few years the dried grease was kind of a mess and not doing much but gum up the works. Never quite got to the point where the pawls wouldn't engage although the quick release button got gummy.

Taught me that light lube in a ratchet is best and that silent operation is not the only thing to judge a ratchet's mantenance.

The lube mix looks like a reasonable idea, and maybe time will convince you all the folks who say to use less -- a lot less -- might know what they're talking about.
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I agree. I used a very light coat on the gear and the pawl. It works great.


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RonnieC said:
Never found it at my HF either, but the local Ace has it.
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My local HF has it in the aisle where body shop tools and bondo are, I had to look a bit but I found it.

My sister came over for breakfast and brought me a bottle of Comp Cams assembly lube.

I think that should be enough lube to last me a good long time
 
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Automag88 said:
What section of Harbor Freight are you guys finding Super Lube in? I can't seem to spot it when I'm in there
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Look by the tubes of Grease it should be there. They usually have it for $5.99 but rings up $6.99 pay attention to that I caught it couple a times. With 25% coupon comes out cheaper then what Amazon have it.

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