Outlawmws
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Yep, that little hole next to the center swivel hole.
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drivesitfar
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Rocket: yes that's the pin you need to put a punch on that is a little smaller than the pin and give it a few love taps so it can pop up and out above where your vise nut is. it looks like the pin was beat on a bit from the top, but since you put in an E bath it should be ready to pop out. then you can not only get the vise nut out to do a good cleaning, but a good cleaning of the inside of your static jaw is possible then.
Good luck
Good luck
dngrmse
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oldldh
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As far as I know...There were never any "Factory Welded" cast iron vises...especially as that repair is right at the point of major stress...
That is a badly done repair...
If your father is happy with his vise, by all means do what ever he wants with it...
There are a bunch of higher quality "Ancient Clampers" out there that need love too...
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dngrmse
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Thanks,
That's what I thought. It does look like a sloppy repair. He really has no use for it, it just sits under his workbench. I'll let him know. Regards...
That's what I thought. It does look like a sloppy repair. He really has no use for it, it just sits under his workbench. I'll let him know. Regards...
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My 1951 Willy:
Outlawmws
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jakemac
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but it's held this long, so by all means keep it in use!
I agree. That looks like a solid made Reed/Craftsman, instead of the more common Columbian/Craftsman's.
I'd take a die grinder to the weld to clean it up a bit and smooth it out (without weakening the weld) and put a fresh coat of paint on it.
Fretters
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If you're asking regarding him fettling it and selling it, repairs like that do kill value somewhat. If you're asking regarding him fettling it and using it for his or your own use, however, then there's no reason that shouldn't give years of good service if that weld has been done even half decently.
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drivesitfar
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All: I picked up this Monarch 223 vise that another member has been holding for me for a couple weeks. it's probably going in my "little cabinet" for now because it's the first Monarch vise i've owned and i do like that cast lion's head on it. it has a small crack on the back slide and when my neighbor gets well from his heart surgery i'm sure he'll want to help me braze it and make it better than new. it works fine as is.
it has 6 inch wide jaws and i'll add the weight once i weigh it. there doesn't seem to be much history available about these awesome vises other than they were made by Prentiss vise company. anybody have any information to share please do and if you are a non member and know something please join Garage Journal so you can post what you know. thanks
JeanB: nice 1951 bullet. did you do the restoration?
it has 6 inch wide jaws and i'll add the weight once i weigh it. there doesn't seem to be much history available about these awesome vises other than they were made by Prentiss vise company. anybody have any information to share please do and if you are a non member and know something please join Garage Journal so you can post what you know. thanks
JeanB: nice 1951 bullet. did you do the restoration?
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McBrownie
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Drives, that Monarch might look really nice with a japanned finish. Once this Polar Vortex blows through, I'm going to dive back into finishing the japanning on my Prentiss.
joe.striper
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Thats a beautiful vise. It is so common to see that tail split. it has been my experience that on many of these big pieces of iron that the castings had issues like this at the back of the molds if the metal didn't flow just right. I've usually just notched the back side of the split and had my buddy run a piece of weld down the crack to make sure it didn't continue. you never see the repair and you stop the split there.
drivesitfar
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McB: thanks for the idea and if you finish your Japanning and it seems doable and looks good i'm sure i'll give it a try. i do like a naked vise as has been stated by me more than a few times with the boiled linseed oil i recommend.
JS: I posted the crack on the back slide over on the Vise Repair 101 thread and the consensus so far was to drill a small hole at the end of the crack to stop the crack and then do a V channel and a nice braze weld. we'll see what happens because it's isn't high on the list of to do's since it looks pretty cool in my "little cabinet". i'm pretty sure it weighs over 100 pounds and in pretty nice shape except for that crack in the slide.
JS: I posted the crack on the back slide over on the Vise Repair 101 thread and the consensus so far was to drill a small hole at the end of the crack to stop the crack and then do a V channel and a nice braze weld. we'll see what happens because it's isn't high on the list of to do's since it looks pretty cool in my "little cabinet". i'm pretty sure it weighs over 100 pounds and in pretty nice shape except for that crack in the slide.
joe.striper
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I know I promised myself no more vises but then I saw this ad. All it said was 'old vise' with the pic below. So I went the three miles from my house and found this...that's right a Reed 206R. So I asked how much, he said $120, so I bought it. The last pic is of my garage. Athol 626 is in front, Reed 206 is in the middle, Parker 976 is way in the back.
I apologize if the pics are sideway. I have no idea why my phone does that
I apologize if the pics are sideway. I have no idea why my phone does that
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va.grouseman
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Excellent purchase joe.striper
Corrected.
Corrected.
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jakemac
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It amazes me how you keep falling into all these great old vises. Nice find.
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joe.striper
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VA it is STRIPER NOT STRIPPER! Jesus you're killing me and ruining my reputation
I found a great 27" vise stand I'm picking up Saturday. So at least I've a home for one vise. I'm going to have to sell one of these but i like having the three in the garage.
Outlawmws
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VA it is STRIPER NOT STRIPPER! Jesus you're killing me and ruining my reputation
I found a great 27" vise stand I'm picking up Saturday. So at least I've a home for one vise. I'm going to have to sell one of these but i like having the three in the garage.
You mean your NOT a male Stri....
joe.striper
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You mean your NOT a male Stri....
if you have an 8" Parker I'll be anything you want....
McBrownie
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if you have an 8" Parker I'll be anything you want....
Well that one made me laugh out loud.
And, by the way, '8" Parker' would be a great stage name. Outlawmws
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if you have an 8" Parker I'll be anything you want....
And we already know he *****...
NEXT!
Outlawmws
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It's definitely made in the USA. those were made from the 20's through 60's at least with minor variations. That one is post war to later production.
$25 is fair but not a great price IMO. Some where between 2-3" jaws at a guess. (they made lots of sizes/variants)
$25 is fair but not a great price IMO. Some where between 2-3" jaws at a guess. (they made lots of sizes/variants)
joe.striper
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Rocket thats a small vise right? Ive got a Craftsman like that with original paint I'll sell you for $5 plus priority postal shipping. I got it as part of a deal when i bought a bigger Craftsman vise and a Wilton C0
Model 766, 3" wide jaws, it's pretty large for a clamp on and nice because it has an enclosed screw which isn't as common for a clamp on vise. For the condition I think it is a little high on price.
You have a pic handy? I have a feeling it is quitea bit different. Does it have 2 guide rods and an exposed screw between.
joe.striper
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You are right zkling but give me a little credit for recognizing what it was from the picture, which was totally nondescript. I've gotten my best deals that way. Oh, by the way this ad was 20 days old and no one bought it. I thought it was a 5" and when i got there i nearly crapped my pants. I did try beating him up on the price a little but it was a no go.
joe.striper
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2.5 inches.
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Heres a couple pics
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Yea, that's a completly different vise, notice how the stanley is built like a full size vise with the cast, machined slide and all. The craftsman is a standard clamp on with guide rods and an exposed screw.
You are right zkling but give me a little credit for recognizing what it was from the picture, which was totally nondescript. I've gotten my best deals that way. Oh, by the way this ad was 20 days old and no one bought it. I thought it was a 5" and when i got there i nearly crapped my pants. I did try beating him up on the price a little but it was a no go.
I really like the style on those large Reed's of that era. Are you going to keep it or sell it? I'll give you some credit, but you have to admit that some parts of the country have a plethora of certain items. Even just a quick check of your local CL will prove that.
joe.striper
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joe.striper
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Tclev, it ALL depends on condition, swivel base or not, jaw and handle condition. if this were a non swiveling 624 with a bent handle and rough jaws I'd pass. I always ignore paint but a bad handle is tough.
hope this helps
Outlawmws
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The response is to go look unless any pics answer the questions the Striper asked.
Regardless of condition, ALWAYS offer, but ONLY in person...
Regardless of condition, ALWAYS offer, but ONLY in person...
va.grouseman
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Yea, joe., it was accidental character assignation, but look at the mileage you got out of it.
joe.striper
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OK, this answers a lot of questions. it looks fairly tight. Go there and make sure it operates smoothly and there isn't a lot of play in the spindle. $100 doesn't give much room to resell BUT for personal use it would do well. But then I'm a softy for a swiveler.
drivesitfar
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Tclev: the Athol is a good brand vise, but it might be missing one of it's mounting feet. if it is i'd pass so look it over and if it has 3 mounting feet and doesn't look like one is missing then it might be ok. i don't own an Athol swiveler to know how many mounting feet it should have. also your pictures don't enlarge so hard for me (and us) to tell you from just one side of any vise much less one with no name on the side like your other vise you posted. that other one could be an Asian import so not worth much, but you'll have to see in person or get us more pictures to know.
JS: nice 6 inch Reed and at a good price. talking about 6 inch vises and then you correcting VA's spelling is almost always going to get a bunch of guys off subject and on to our other vises (vices). looks like you might have a new stage name if you want to stop buying vises you don't need and want to give that a try.
Get: don't worry about most of us looking at all of your awesome vises in your shop and maybe seeing a mess in those pictures you posted because your collection is pretty cool. it would be like looking at a picture of a bunch of gorgeous woman and trying to find the guy that most of us wouldn't know was in the picture or care. i haven't had a chance to look past the blue multy swiveling vise you have on your homemade stand with a weight plate for a top, but i did notice the big FPU. is it a 6 inch jaw or bigger or are the other ones next to it some of your smallish vises? also nice addition with the big American Scale swivel jaw vise. i did see a few interesting RR ties so do you have an Anvil collection too? or just cars and vises?
JS: nice 6 inch Reed and at a good price. talking about 6 inch vises and then you correcting VA's spelling is almost always going to get a bunch of guys off subject and on to our other vises (vices). looks like you might have a new stage name if you want to stop buying vises you don't need and want to give that a try.
Get: don't worry about most of us looking at all of your awesome vises in your shop and maybe seeing a mess in those pictures you posted because your collection is pretty cool. it would be like looking at a picture of a bunch of gorgeous woman and trying to find the guy that most of us wouldn't know was in the picture or care. i haven't had a chance to look past the blue multy swiveling vise you have on your homemade stand with a weight plate for a top, but i did notice the big FPU. is it a 6 inch jaw or bigger or are the other ones next to it some of your smallish vises? also nice addition with the big American Scale swivel jaw vise. i did see a few interesting RR ties so do you have an Anvil collection too? or just cars and vises?