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Heat loss from radiant slab

dschmit

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Tring to decide if i want to hook up the floor heat or go with a diffrent option. I am wondering about heat loss from my slab mainly at the garage doors. It is a 38X52 with 9 loops of 1/2" pex each a litle over 200ft in lenght. Would be using a modulating electric boiler.
Foundation walls were poured in the 2" white styrofoam forms that go down to the footing. I left all the foam on the inside foundation stem wall from the footing to the top of the stemwall that ends 16" above the concrete floor. I removed the foam from the outside foundation wall down to grade, so someof the stem wall exterior is exposed to the outsie temps. Underneath the whole slab I have 2" pink foam, except the 3x3 areas where the two post lift will be and around the floor drain. At the two 12' garage doors and the 36" walk door the slab is laying directly on the foundation wall to the outsde of the foundation wall leaving that 6" outside of the garge doors heated and exposed to the cold temps. Before pouring the driveway a expansion foam strip was put between the driveway and the floor, so that should be somewhat of a thermal break there.

The slab is almost all inside a insulated 2" perimeter. I am concerned with the fondation sucking alot of heat from the concrete mainly from under the doors where it is outside and also laying directly on the foundaion wall. The concrete around the foor drain and hoist pads is layng on dirt. Is that of much concern?

Any input is appreciated.
 
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Randy in Maine

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You will be OK.

I purposely did not insulate under my doors garage doors to avoid them from freezing up during an ice storm. It has worked so far on some 1/2" glare ice storms.

I hope you can get electricty cheaper than I can $0.15 per kwh.
 

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I have a 40 x 60 with only one 10' door and no outside ledge. You should be ok, but in the event your boiler struggles , cut the flow down on those loops nearest the overhead doors.
 

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I asked the same question not a few minute from yours.. :beer:

I still haven't poured, so there's still time to make changes.
There's some much discussion about insulating and thermal break to the foundation, but the slab normally rests on the foundation in every door opening.
What's the right product to use, in a door way, to create a thermal break between the slab and foundation?

Anybody?
 

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Any thermal break will work. My floor stops just under the door. I have about 8" (wall thickness) that will be driveway. I also recessed the door down 1/2" to keep water out.
 
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sands35

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Foil backed bubble wrap is a radiant barrier, not a conduction barrier. Radiant, in this case, means the engineering definition, not the colloquial one used to describe hyrdronic floors.

Bubble wrap won't do jack.
 
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dschmit

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Back to the original post, is it a big heat loss having the slab sit directly on the foundation wall? My floor is already poured.
 

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Back to the original post, is it a big heat loss having the slab sit directly on the foundation wall? My floor is already poured.

it is what it is at this point .. it is a heat loss, but its not a humungous deal breaker .. and as was previously posted, it could be construed as a good thing if you have issues with the door seal sticking to the floor
 
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dschmit

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ok, thanks. I just thought that if it was a big heat loss area using excessive energy i would skip out on the radiant floor and go with a mini split. I will only be in there a few hours on weekday evenings and most of the day on weekends.
 

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ok, thanks. I just thought that if it was a big heat loss area using excessive energy i would skip out on the radiant floor and go with a mini split. I will only be in there a few hours on weekday evenings and most of the day on weekends.

Radiant floor heat is best left at one heat setting. Cement slabs do not immediately respond to turning up the thermostat.

Cheers
 
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