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dnschmidt

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Adam, here are actual pictures of the HF 13mm wrench from the set. To me they look identical to the Snap-On. You might have been led astray by the picture you took off of the Internet. Here's the real deal. To me they look like every other combination wrench I've ever seen.

Personally, I very seldom use an open end wrench. I go for a socket first, if that doesn't work I fade over to a box wrench and if that can't cut it I guess I'll try an open end. But, that's just me.
 

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wild cowboy

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ratcheting + open end doesn't make any sense in the first place! - which end are you supposed to break with? - Answer: Neither

- use an intelligent ratcheting wrench, one that combines BOX end with ratcheting!

otherwise, use a regular combination stubby and forget the ratcheting part
 

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I'm not a big Craftsman guy, but this set is hard to beat at any price...Made in USA. Doesn't include racks, but fit perfect in the Ernst stubby racks.
Thanks for the info, I was wondering about that.

Go Williams. Buy here
Don't email. CALL them.
http://www.industrialsupplydenver.com/
Best advice you can get on ratcheting stubbies. These are offset & reversible, and the guy at ISC is really cool. I told him I wasn't sure since everything else I ordered was USA Williams, he said these are the ones he has personally and loves them. Glad I followed his advice.

The issue with the HF set is they are not offset, not reversible, and dont include 17 or 19. So you need both sets to get 17, and then still have no 19. If they were offset OR reversible I would say that's fine go for it. But the whole point of stubby is you don't have room for ********.
 

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My stubbies consist of the Northern Industrial set in SAE, which I think was twenty bucks. (skips 13/16s and 7/8s). I think there was a review on the metric set on this forum that was favorable. I don't think northern tool carries those sets anymore.

For metric, I got the Williams set from epstiens, though I recently re discovered that it skips 10mm...

I got a loose 22mm craftsman professional stubby wrench (since it's pretty close to 7/8s) and can say that it is a very nice wrench.
 

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I got a work around for that :lol: Pry bar against a stubby to get a lot of torque in a tight spot works quite well...

Done this many times working on steering racks breaking the lines loose. My craftsman pro and snap-on stubbies work great. Recently bought the gearwrench stubby flex wrenches love them great purchase.
 

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ratcheting + open end doesn't make any sense in the first place! - which end are you supposed to break with? - Answer: Neither

- use an intelligent ratcheting wrench, one that combines BOX end with ratcheting!

otherwise, use a regular combination stubby and forget the ratcheting part

End don't matter to me. Ill break loose with whatever type end I'm using or will fit.
 
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ratcheting + open end doesn't make any sense in the first place! - which end are you supposed to break with? - Answer: Neither

- use an intelligent ratcheting wrench, one that combines BOX end with ratcheting!

otherwise, use a regular combination stubby and forget the ratcheting part

They are stubby wrenches. You're not breaking **** loose with them. Stubby ratcheting wrenches only make sense to have an open end and ratcheting box.
 

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I'm missing your point. The Snap-On are radius ground at the bottom of the open end and the HF aren't, so what?

Actually the issue is access.

The point of shorter wrenches is aceess and recessed or hidden fasteners.

eg, you may need an open end because the ring end is too tick.

Maybe too tall, or maybe the radius abuts against an obstruction.

Size ........Thin.......Box.....Open....Open

10mm ......14.3.......16........24.......21


This is not just an issue of "cheap", its also one of design.

https://www.amazonsupply.com/dp/B000I1OAU2?ref_=sr_1_8_txt

The stahlwille open 13 has an open end of 23, only one less than the the cheaper wrench measured (above). Even that It is still 2mm wider than the snappy.

Now, buying obstruction wrenches with dimensions that are oversized is sort of missing the point.

What oversizes means , of course , is specific to your application. :beer:
 
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Adam, here are actual pictures of the HF 13mm wrench from the set. To me they look identical to the Snap-On.

And really, that's all that's important. YOU can't tell the difference even after I showed a side by side comparison showing exactly what I was talking about. Good for you.

You might have been led astray by the picture you took off of the Internet.

You mean the picture from HF's website that is on the internet? HF does that. They doctor the images they put on their website to make their tools look like ****. Then when you get to the store, you actually buy Snap On wrenches for $25. Cause they're all made in the same place anyway.

Here's the real deal. To me, they look like every other combination wrench I've ever seen.
You forgot "In harbor freight" at the end of that sentence.

Personally, I very seldom use an open end wrench. I go for a socket first, if that doesn't work I fade over to a box wrench and if that can't cut it I guess I'll try an open end. But, that's just me.

So really, what I was saying about how I use the open end, doesn't matter because you don't use your open ends anyway. Thanks for posting.
 

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You mean the picture from HF's website that is on the internet? HF does that. They doctor the images they put on their website to make their tools look like ****. Then when you get to the store, you actually buy Snap On wrenches for $25. Cause they're all made in the same place anyway.
I was following what both of you were on about until this. I don't doubt they doctor the images, but to look worse? Not sure this particular image is a good example of that, no it's not beautiful but what about it looks worse than the actual wrenches in the store?

Before any use or wear, their chrome is shiny in the fluorescent light in the store. So there's that. No different from cman (on the polished ones) or any other you can get in a retail store. The only real difference I see in the chrome on HF vs the other similar priced brands is how long it takes to show scratch/wear through the chrome, and how deep it looks. My Kobalt standard combos have been used for years and look nicer than a set of HF ratcheting wrenches that was used once, after I cleaned them up & put them away.
 

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Yeah, I think on he was being sarcastic. The better wrenches are really--these days--probably only justified for those who already understand why they are needed. Like I noted above, even something like a stahlwille is by design not dimensionally very different that the much cheaper stuff coming out of other parts of the world. They do have 1MM thinner ring ends and 1MM thinner jaw side, its just that the snappy has 3mm of extra clearance and that really matters for some users. It's the difference between fitment and useless, or btween 1 and 2 sets of tools needed in a mobile situation. etc. Now, it may be that the HF is even worse than the ones I measured, but my guess is they ar about the same. And if that's the case, untill you need something else....you don't need anything else !!
 

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I have the Sunex set. They are fine but not the quality of the Gearwrench in my opinion. Some of the boxed end openings on the Sunex set aren't even close to being centered in the "circle" of metal at the end of the wrench. Being that that they are stubbies and only for low torque duty, it doesn't bother me. I have other Sunex tools that don't have this error.

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To those that own the Sunex stubby wrench sets, are the box ends offset for increased accessed and to prevent knuckle scraping?


Thanks,

Dave
 
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