Yeah, I didn't see any sign of them the other night at ours. Oh well, I'd only want 2... okay 4 for the side woman parks on. But that money would probably be better spent going to the Rally car.The Parker CO. Costco sold out of a lot of the other LED's, sent the wife yesterday and they are gone.
Feit Electric T8 LED Fixtures at Costco
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Banjorear
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I'm on the fence with these. I bought six but don'the think they are bright enough. They are only 3700K lumens. They seems dark compared to the 6000 T8 bulb in the fixture above my bench. Seems like I'd need more of the's to achieve the same light levels.
I haven't gotten on the bus to replace my T8's with LED because I've been unsure of the output. My T8's are 2900 lumens each bulb so 5800 per fixture. I don't see LED giving me that much light even being directional.
I love LED but honestly don't have any lights on long enough for the energy savings to offset the bulb cost.
Bradley Miller
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I added eight to my shop/garage and love them so far. I had 7 2 bulb 40 watt T12's 1 2 bulb T8 and one 3 bulb T12 Troffer from ??? era. All Led is great.
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alohavw
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None in Federal Way, WA
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Hi All,
I am just getting started on collecting estimates to build a 40' x 60' shop / garage.
I would like to find out how many lumens per square foot of floor space are needed to have a "well lit shop" and what is the most economical type of lighting??????
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Bob
I am just getting started on collecting estimates to build a 40' x 60' shop / garage.
I would like to find out how many lumens per square foot of floor space are needed to have a "well lit shop" and what is the most economical type of lighting??????
Thanx,
Bob
I ended up at Costco yesterday and bought some of the Feit 4' LED workshop lights to replace my T8's in the garage. They are 'inexpensive' but I'm very happy with them. They are brighter than the fluorescent bulbs I had, and a bit whiter. No more flickering, cold /delayed starts, or dead bulbs (I hope!). Would recommend them. They won't survive much abuse though - fine for me, but physically you get what you pay for.
Banjorear
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I added eight to my shop/garage and love them so far. I had 7 2 bulb 40 watt T12's 1 2 bulb T8 and one 3 bulb T12 Troffer from ??? era. All Led is great.
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Maybe I need give them another try after seeing your pictures. They do seem to give you plenty of light. I know I can cut the plug off, but I do like hardwired lights v. plugs. The instructions say warranty void if you mess with the plug.
Hmmmmm, decisions, decisions.
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Wow, that seems excessive underneath the cabinet. Do you wear sunglasses when you're near that spot?
Bradley Miller
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Well, I was finally able to read the numbers on the drill bits to get them put back properly.
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the spyder
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None here in Wilsonville OR. I'll have to call the other stores.
socalmerc
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do you know if they make a 8 ft lights that are LED. i have them in my garage but these do seem pretty bright
bshusted
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Also wondering this. Checked the Kirkland one and got nowhere.
i picked a few up from a MA store. Flush mounted 3 in the garage replacing really old ones - i like the LEDs. Replacing anything that's still working with LED would cost you some and you may or may not make even but who cares - it feels good. The LED fixture has a white painted steel back plate but overall is light and easy to work with. Don't forget to remove the clear film over the LED tubes in case it's not obvious.
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I talked to the Kirkland Costco a couple of days ago and he said 300 were expected on Dec 2 at the Distribution center but that he didn't know where they were going in the Seattle area. he did say that they had 36000 on order tho. So I think they will eventually show up. I'll keep looking everytime I go(every couple of days). and report back when I see them.
alohavw
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Tukwila , WA has a full pallet of them on isle 13 for any Seattle area people interested.
warmpancakes
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you can buy retro fit "bulbs" on ebay for around the same price or less, and just bypass ballast in existing fixture
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-4ft-4...tring_Lights_Fairy_Lights&hash=item418c3668c2
basically 10.00 a bulb this are 18 watt the costco ones are 19 watt
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-4ft-4...tring_Lights_Fairy_Lights&hash=item418c3668c2
basically 10.00 a bulb this are 18 watt the costco ones are 19 watt
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The math doesn't really check out on these. Including the fixture and bulbs, T5HO, T8 and T12s output approximately 200 lumens/dollar. These fixtures are approximately 100 lumens/dollar. Additionally, they output fewer lumens per fixture.
Disregarding the energy savings (which would take forever to recoup), what are the advantages?
Disregarding the energy savings (which would take forever to recoup), what are the advantages?
warmpancakes
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The work in the cold, the light is more more white,
I replaced all my T8 fixtures in my garage (12) - there is no doubt these are brighter. They also use about 1/2 the electricity (though it's never going to pay itself back for me). No more slow warm up, flickering, replacing bulbs or ballasts).
Yes they were spendy at $40 per fixture but the output in colder temps is very noticeable for me. Costco Seattle on 4th Ave South has a pallet full today.
Don't know if the pic shows but it is way brighter now as compared to my lower grade HD fixtures. OP, thanks for the heads up on these lights!
Don't know if the pic shows but it is way brighter now as compared to my lower grade HD fixtures. OP, thanks for the heads up on these lights!
Single or dual bulb fixtures?
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One thing I've always wondered about these types of fixtures. What happens when an LED goes out? Supposedly that will be a long time from now but we all have had things that didn't live up to their life expectancy. I guess you could maybe whip out the soldering iron and replace if you can find the appropriate LED but I imagine that most would have to discard the fixture and buy another. That really starts to play havoc with your ROI as opposed to putting in another T8 (or T5 or T12) bulb. Also, do these run off 120 or do they have a separate power supply/transformer? If so, that's just another point of failure comparable to a ballast.
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I won't pretend to understand light, but I've read a lot of studies on how temperature effects the brains perception of brightness, vs actual usable light. I ride motorcycles, my daily driver for 10 years had two wheels, and in the winter I learned a valuable lesson. The HIDs I retrofitted, while much brighter on paper, and seeming much brighter further out, caused nasty eye stain and less luminosity. It wasn't until I hit something because I just didn't see it in time that I swapped back and looked for answers.
LEDs also throw light where you want it, no need to reflect 50%+ in a different direction. That added efficiency is why I think these are brighter (using a light meter) than $30 worth of HD fixture and 2xT8's.
The other advantage: here in SC it's in the high 40's in my garage. I still have 1 LED and 1 Fluorescent fixture wired to my switch. When I just went to take out the recycling (10 LED boxes) the LED was full brightness immediately. The fluorescent was still warming when I was heading back into the house.
Finally, for those that have their lights tied to their garage door sensors: ballasts don't like to be cycled. LEDs don't care. I've replaced the pantry CFLs every 2 years from the wife and kids cycling it.
LEDs also throw light where you want it, no need to reflect 50%+ in a different direction. That added efficiency is why I think these are brighter (using a light meter) than $30 worth of HD fixture and 2xT8's.
The other advantage: here in SC it's in the high 40's in my garage. I still have 1 LED and 1 Fluorescent fixture wired to my switch. When I just went to take out the recycling (10 LED boxes) the LED was full brightness immediately. The fluorescent was still warming when I was heading back into the house.
Finally, for those that have their lights tied to their garage door sensors: ballasts don't like to be cycled. LEDs don't care. I've replaced the pantry CFLs every 2 years from the wife and kids cycling it.
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I've had HIDs on two different cars and I wouldn't have it any other way if I could help it. Tons of light, great illumination on the sides, with a sharp cutoff to avoid blinding oncoming drivers.
Sounds more like a bad retrofit? Did you transplant the entire projector assembly from a DOT certified lamp? Or just drop in a bulb? The drop-ins are really bad because while your total light output is higher, the light source isn't in the same spot as it in on a regular halogen bulb, which renders the reflector/projector useless and puts all the light in the wrong places. Not only do you put less light in front of you, you also blind oncoming drivers and waste all your lumens illuminating the sky.
Dual T8 fixtures replaced by these. These are brighter. Was using Phillips T8 bulbs.
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Yes they were spendy at $40 per fixture but the output in colder temps is very noticeable for me. Costco Seattle on 4th Ave South has a pallet full today.
Don't know if the pic shows but it is way brighter now as compared to my lower grade HD fixtures. OP, thanks for the heads up on these lights!
I like the idea of using chain on the upper storage you have.. How did you attach it to the bottom? Im assuming the top was done by looping the chain around the truss and using a quick link?
I ran a 2x4 running 90* to the trusses with an eye bolt, then just bolted the chain at the bottom. The back of the shelving is bolted to the wall studs. I've walked on the shelving and it didn't budge at all. Really didn't want any posts to hinder floor space and came up with this for a perimeter shelving unit. Now just have bite the bullet and finish the garage and plumb gas for heat and it will be an all year working environment.
Btw these LED lights are really bright - and no warm up time so instant brightness!
These are a little more expensive than a 2xT8 setup ($29), and a little cheaper than a 2xT5HO setup ($51).
Would you estimate these are brighter than a cheapo HD 2xT8 setup? How about a 2xT5HO setup?
Theoretically, they should not be. They are 3700 lumens, versus 5700 and 10,000 respectively.
Would you estimate these are brighter than a cheapo HD 2xT8 setup? How about a 2xT5HO setup?
Theoretically, they should not be. They are 3700 lumens, versus 5700 and 10,000 respectively.
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Autorotica
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Here is one fixture in the house so we could see how bright it is. There was NO other lights on in the house...
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Thanks for the reply! This is exactly my design challenge, I envy the space you have in that garage, I have a small 10x20 and I dont want any posts as well hindering my storage options. I might use a quick link on mine with an eyebolt at the bottom as a quick "Just in case" option. What size chain did you go with?
Autorotica
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(1) 3700 lumen Costco LED fixture per 125 sq/ft... Running cost for all the lights being on is $0.16 per hour.
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