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shooting4life

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Everyone keeps talking about red having more tools, which it does. But you need to ask yourself when purchasing if those extra tools are actually something you would buy. Them selling tools you don't need shouldn't be the reason you choose red over blue.

The person above who talked about batteries is 100% spot on. My brother is in the trades and uses makita stuff and is very happy with it. When I bought my first home and needed a tool sets I bought the same thing he had because we were both going to be working on the house and having interchangeable batteries really saved our bacon on many different projects.
 
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Makita. I have a handful of Makita's (drills, sander, etc.) and they are great. Never had a problem.
 

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I may be biased in my opinion but I along with almost every other commercial heating and air guy uses the Makita 18v stuff. A Friend of mine is dead set on the Milwaukee and to be honest it does seem to have a bit more power. We tested this in a old fashioned kind of way.

First we took a piece of all thread and clamped it into the respective drills and turned them on. the Milwaukee spun my Makita backwards. My Makita can almost spin the Dewalt backwards in the same test, and the Hilti stuff can stop the Milwaukee stuff in its tracks.

The Battery life test the Makita won out on against everything but the Hilti stuff.

Not sure if this helps at all but it was a cool test trying everything out against each other. Wish we had taken some video of it because we BROKE THE DEWALT when we used the Milwaukee against it.
 

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I have a TON of Milwaukee M18 (at least 20) and about 7 M12 tools so I'm a Milwaukee guy. That stated I've never had an issue with a Makita tool. Quality stuff no doubt about it.
 

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I've got some of both. You probably will be satisfied with either.

These days the tools are close enough that you should buy the battery you want to live with rather than the tool.

One reason not to buy Milwaukee is that they unnecessarily stiffed all their old customers with the M18, which was not backwards compatible with V18 or any of the previous 18V stuff they made. I'm sure it was marketing related, which means they will do it again.

To my knowledge, NONE of the companies' 18v NiCad/NiMH lines are compatible with their 18v Lithium Ion tools. The universal non-compatibility is likely due to the differences in electronics required.
 

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Yeah....good luck with that.

So what is that supposed to mean it's not a 5 year warranty? Is it only 4 years 364 days? 1 year? 90 days? I have had some tools warrantied and even batteries by Milwaukee with no problem, they were not at the 5 year mark yet but no issues other than some times it takes a little longer to get them back then others.

I feel so much stuff is made poorly these days I am looking for warranty. Then if I have to use it in the warranty period I hope it works out, Milwaukee definitely has. I have tools from makita, Bosch, dewalt, Milwaukee, etc. if I had to pick it would be Milwaukee for a complete line with the best warranty.

I know dewalt was not on your list but YOU can find some dewalts that are assembled or made in US. http://www.toolsofthebrave.com
 

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To my knowledge, NONE of the companies' 18v NiCad/NiMH lines are compatible with their 18v Lithium Ion tools. The universal non-compatibility is likely due to the differences in electronics required.

Call me skeptical, but I think part of this might also be down to commercial considerations (sell twice when the customer steps up).

Anyways, +1 for Makita. My dad always used their stuff as a building contractor; when it came to getting some decent power tools myself, that background plus generally positive online reviews made it an easy decision for me. I've never been disappointed with anything of Makita's that I've bought :thumbup:
 

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The charger technology in makita is more advanced, unless Milwaukee caught up, makita is the only one to have the charger monitor and charge each battery cell separately. The rest just stop when the first cell in the pack hits full. This limits power and over time causes a lithium to act like it has a "memory" which lithium batteries do not. Makita batteries have that extra yellow tab on the battery with all the little terminals in it just for the charger.
With cordless tools you are buying the battery system more than the tool, don't limit yourself.
 

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Just judging by what I have personally come across, it seems that the chosen trade of the person using the tool around seems to be the difference in choosing Milwaukee or Makita. I see most general contractors, electricians, plumbers etc. using Makita. Milwaukee and Snap-On are used almost exclusively by automotive techs and DIY'ers. I'm a technician for a Toyota/Lexus dealer and couldn't imagine using Makita over Milwaukee simply because of the range of tools that are useful for my specific line of work. Numerous impacts with anvils (1/4", 3/8", and 1/2") rather than 1/4" hex chucks, cordless ratchets, lights, and small yet powerful drills. I own and have used LOTS of Makita tools and they are worth every penny, and so are Milwaukee.

Think about the number of tools made by both companies that are used and abused every day VS. the number of people on here who discuss them and lean one way or the other when it comes to brand preference. Both brands have been proven time and time again and you seriously can't go wrong with either one. You can get them cheaply enough these days that if you aren't satisfied with whichever one you decide to go with, you can simply resell it for a minimal loss and go a different route. Just pick one and get to work, LOL!
 

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Milwaukee has a bigger and better selection of tools.

Icing on the cake/ seal the deal, Milwaukee has a
5 year warranty. It's done. Kill shot, knockout, hit it outta the park. / thread.

5 year warranty is unnecessary, especially since I have never had a Makita break. I dont need those other tools that Milwaukee makes, and if you do, there really isnt a choice because Makita doesn't make them, right?
 

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So what is that supposed to mean it's not a 5 year warranty? Is it only 4 years 364 days? 1 year? 90 days? I have had some tools warrantied and even batteries by Milwaukee with no problem, they were not at the 5 year mark yet but no issues other than some times it takes a little longer to get them back then others.

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As a prospective buyer, all I can judge their warranty by it what it states on their web site:

" Subject to certain exceptions, MILWAUKEE will repair or replace any part on an electric power tool which, after examination, is determined by MILWAUKEE to be defective in material or workmanship for a period of five (5) years* after the date of purchase unless otherwise noted. Return of the power tool to a MILWAUKEE factoryService Center location or MILWAUKEE Authorized Service Station, freight prepaid and insured, is required. A copy of the proof of purchase should be included with the return product. This warranty does not apply to damage that MILWAUKEE determines to be from repairs made or attempted by anyone other than MILWAUKEE authorized personnel, misuse, alterations, abuse, normal wear and tear, lack of maintenance, or accidents."

It appears there are slight differences depending on the type of tool..but all seem to state the same thing. I use my tools a lot...right out of the box. If there is any "defective in material or workmanship", it's probably going to show up long before a stores date of return policy expires, if not within the first few days.

Maybe you're privy to special attention that others wouldn't be. Unfortunately, I can't put my faith in your testimonial 3-4 yrs down the line in hopes that they would fix a tool that craps out.

I'll judge the tools I buy based on my personal experience in actually using them and what others who have used them under the SAME conditions have to say. If a 5 year warranty claim makes folks feel good about a certain brand..that's cool. But without digging into the actual details of what exactly is covered..IMO it's pretty meaningless.

Just judging by what I have personally come across, it seems that the chosen trade of the person using the tool around seems to be the difference in choosing Milwaukee or Makita. I see most general contractors, electricians, plumbers etc. using Makita. Milwaukee and Snap-On are used almost exclusively by automotive techs and DIY'ers. I'm a technician for a Toyota/Lexus dealer and couldn't imagine using Makita over Milwaukee simply because of the range of tools that are useful for my specific line of work. Numerous impacts with anvils (1/4", 3/8", and 1/2") rather than 1/4" hex chucks, cordless ratchets, lights, and small yet powerful drills. I own and have used LOTS of Makita tools and they are worth every penny, and so are Milwaukee.

Think about the number of tools made by both companies that are used and abused every day VS. the number of people on here who discuss them and lean one way or the other when it comes to brand preference. Both brands have been proven time and time again and you seriously can't go wrong with either one. You can get them cheaply enough these days that if you aren't satisfied with whichever one you decide to go with, you can simply resell it for a minimal loss and go a different route. Just pick one and get to work, LOL!

Wow....what a well expressed, unbiased post in regards to a variant of the old "Ford - Chevy" debate. Who let you in here..;)
 

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Wow....what a well expressed, unbiased post in regards to a variant of the old "Ford - Chevy" debate. Who let you in here..;)

If the debate were Ford VS. Chevy, I can't promise that my input would have been so unbiased! LOL! When it comes to tools, I'd rather see someone USING them than trying to figure which one to BUY. I completely understand the need for reading up on anything that is going to cause you to spend your hard earned money. In fact, I over analyze every purchase I make trying to get the most value possible. But, when it comes down to it, using a slightly less powerful, versatile, or precise tool still allows you to complete 100% more work when it comes to the homeowner on DIY'er as opposed to having no tool at all! Right?:dunno:
 

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Milwaukee has a bigger and better selection of tools.

Icing on the cake/ seal the deal, Milwaukee has a
5 year warranty. It's done. Kill shot, knockout, hit it outta the park. / thread.

I don't think you are correct about a bigger and better selection. Makita was the first to the 18V market almost a decade ago and they advertise over 80 tools in their 18v XLT line. I havent looked at Milwaukee's website, but from what i have seen, I dont think they are close to that number. I have both Milwaukee and Makita tools and don't care for this debate really as they are both really good tools that would serve any of us just fine. I think the OP should research the bare tool line-up and see the tools that interest him the most in person and see how they feel to him.
 

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This is like arguing over whether you're going to stay at The Four Seasons or The Bellagio. Not bad digs either way. Stayed in both and they're both great. Sort of like Milwaukee and Makita.
 

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I started to post yesterday similar to what mike13u says above, but my phone was being stupid. Makita's 18V line-up is impressive and deep (ironically this is of little relevance to the OP which asked about homeowner use). They have a true die grinder with 1/4" collet (Milwaukee makes one too but does not sell it in the States):
http://www.makitatools.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?Name=LXDG01

They also have an 18V nibbler, I've never seen this from Milwaukee:
http://www.makitatools.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?Name=XNJ01Z

A cordless plate joiner:
http://www.makitatools.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?Name=LXJP02

And it's all over the map with lawn & garden with several string trimmers, the chainsaw that uses two 18V batteries, a hedge trimmer, and the new grass shears (which seem a bit gimmicky and oddly homeowner-centric from a company like Makita):
http://toolguyd.com/makita-grass-shear/

As for comments about "all my construction crews use XYZ rabble rabble rabble" that's merely a local culture thing. Move a couple states over and you can make the same statement but substitute Dewalt for Makita for Milwaukee for Ridgid etc. I submit such arguments don't mean a particular line is better or more durable, but merely show that there's a strong local retailer for said brand in the area combined with many other factors like guys just tend to buy what they see others using on the jobsite. In some areas Ford tends to be more common, in other areas Chevy is more common. In the NFL there's (theoretically) East coast ground 'n pound vs West Coast "go deep" plays, and on and on and on and on. In Hawaii I noticed all the overhead truck racks (lumber racks) were built in a very specific way - - a design I've really NEVER seen here in Colo.

edit: Makita's got heated jackets too but I don't know if I've once seen a GJ member who has any?
 
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Milwaukee has a bigger and better selection of tools.

I actually think Makita has a bigger line, but more to the point Makita has the most important cordless tool ever!!!:pimpflash:pimpflash

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Let's see the knuckle draggers at the red company top this one!!:pimpflash:pimpflash
 

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To my knowledge, NONE of the companies' 18v NiCad/NiMH lines are compatible with their 18v Lithium Ion tools. The universal non-compatibility is likely due to the differences in electronics required.

Ryobi Nicd is backwards and forwards compatible with Lion, so its got to be something else...



FWIW, to the OP - if you're choosing a brand name, then if you just stick with all the same brand for your CORDLESS tools, you'll be doing great, for the purposes of interchanging your batteries.

Your CORDED tools, don't necessarily have to be the same brand. They're somewhat stand alone by themselves.
 

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The contractor who taught me what little I know about building had majority mikita. No red stuff (4 years ago). He swore by mikita and I also enjoyed working with their tools. Thing is, like so many have said, any of the big brands you'd be very happy with.
 

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Why'd I not know about this....

Best. Tool. Ever. :willy_nil


I actually think Makita has a bigger line, but more to the point Makita has the most important cordless tool ever!!!:pimpflash:pimpflash

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Let's see the knuckle draggers at the red company top this one!!:pimpflash:pimpflash
 

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To my knowledge, NONE of the companies' 18v NiCad/NiMH lines are compatible with their 18v Lithium Ion tools. The universal non-compatibility is likely due to the differences in electronics required.

Well that's not exactly true. Milwaukee's first line of 18V Lithium Ion tools, the V18's were fully backward and forward compatible with the rest of their 18V line.

In fact, my V28 triple charger will charge everything from 12V to 28V, including the V18's; my nicad 12V caulk gun, my newer M28's and the 18V Nicads.

That's why I say that Milwaukee stiffed its old customers when it came out with the M18. There was no reason to make the battery pack different, other than to sell new tools to people they'd already sold them to. The reason they claim is that there was a weak point in the mounting of the V18's - if so that's really funny because they had been using the exact same mount for about 12 years.
 
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I would go with Milwaukee over makita the longevity of there batteries are a lot better than makita lxt.

And it really matters on what you will use most use drills and Milwaukee makes the best sawzall imo
 

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Well that's not exactly true. Milwaukee's first line of 18V Lithium Ion tools, the V18's were fully backward and forward compatible with the rest of their 18V line.

In fact, my V28 triple charger will charge everything from 12V to 28V, including the V18's; my nicad 12V caulk gun, my newer M28's and the 18V Nicads.

That's why I say that Milwaukee stiffed its old customers when it came out with the M18. There was no reason to make the battery pack different, other than to sell new tools to people they'd already sold them to. The reason they claim is that there was a weak point in the mounting of the V18's - if so that's really funny because they had been using the exact same mount for about 12 years.



Interesting. I can't speak to V18 at all but I KNOW this: the V28 batteries assembled in a left/right clamshell configuration. This actually made them quite strong if you should -either by accident or intent- lever off the battery to counteract the twisting force of a drill for example. But the M28's have a top lid that drops on. Under the same circumstances this lid is essentially trying to be torn off and the plasti-screws holding it in can just pull out.

Granted, this type of leverage should never be placed on the dovetails regardless, in a perfect world.
 

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Both are really good. I really like the fact that you can still buy Makita tools manufactured in Japan and the USA. My latest 3 purchases of Makita tools (within last year) are made in Japan. The attention to detail, quality are very obvious on Japanese made products IMHO. The DS4000 drill I just purchased sounds like a smooth running sewing machine. Having said that, i am really impressed with some recent Chinese made Milwaukee tools I have examined, notably the new bandsaw. Awesome fit/finish. May be saving for that one.
 

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Also Makitas brushless hammerdrill is a monster. I couldn't believe how much power it had over my DCD995. it's supposedly the torque-eist on the market. Not sure about hilti tho
 

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I would go Makita. Milwaukee is good too, but seems to be working hard to cheapen the brand and push towards the Home Depot shopper crowd. I have a good deal of both. I suppose one brand is not better across their entire tool line. I was a pro contractor for over a decade. Lots of good tools out there. I have my doubts about the quality of Milwaukee as they have seemed to shift away from their core market. The Makita stuff I own always seems to be lighter than the red ones, but have proven to be just as durable and often nicer because of the lighter weight.
 

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I would go Makita. Milwaukee is good too, but seems to be working hard to cheapen the brand and push towards the Home Depot shopper crowd. I have a good deal of both. I suppose one brand is not better across their entire tool line. I was a pro contractor for over a decade. Lots of good tools out there. I have my doubts about the quality of Milwaukee as they have seemed to shift away from their core market. The Makita stuff I own always seems to be lighter than the red ones, but have proven to be just as durable and often nicer because of the lighter weight.

This makes me re-think my 2797 kit purchase.

On the one hand, it seems a lot easier to source various Milwaukee tools than Makita, but on the other hand maybe there is a reason for that (catering to big boxes, etc)

Still time for the 150 off promo, and the Makita kit in the promo includes the monster hammer drill (which is more powerful, but heavier than even the "heavy" Milwaukee). Definitely something I need to think about!
 
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another contractor here, makita all the way on the cordless stuff. that is all any of the contractors and subs i know use. ive never had a cordless tool fail. batteries last about three to four years in professional use everyday charging for me but i cycle through about 6 at a time there is always at least two chargers going.
 
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