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gtrotter

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Hey guys. Just recently I picked up an old Holland vise at auction. Locked up and looked like it had been outside for quite some time. Looks to say 14 1/2? Opens to 9 inches. Got it working again and I only have 12.50 into it so far. I have to say that once it broke loose, that this vise is almost as smooth as my Wilton.

Picture is on my 1930's bench. Also on the bench is my 1946 Wilton and a cheap menards vise.
 

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what is the jaw width & weight?

that puppy would go straight into an electrolysis bath if it were mine, then a quick touch up with a brass wheel, some Fluid Film coating it everywhere, and it would look freshly cast and awesome!

and please tell us where to find auctions with big vises for $12, haven't seen that here in the South!
 
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I actually picked it up in Fremont, Ohio while up there on business. Saw the auction sign and figured I would stop in. Not sure on weight but jaw width is 4.5 inch. Plan is to get it cleaned up and paint the original colors.
 

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Congrats. I'd start with a cup brush on an angle grinder to get the bulk off.
 

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Gtrotter: killer bench. any full size pictures of it and who made it? it looks like 3 foot or deeper and 8 or 10 foot wide?

Holland's are some of the best made, easiest to use and one of the easiest vises to take apart and put back together.

with all the vises all the way open it looks like they are ready to eat something. :D
 

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Uhm, OK. Electrolysis seems to be a fad on this forum.
I wouldn't call it a fad, it was pioneered by the cast iron skillet collectors, who are so fanatical about condition and keeping the original metal intact, so they tried every known rust removal technique, and that one turned out to be clearly the elite method, and also the least work!
 

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I wouldn't call it a fad, it was pioneered by the cast iron skillet collectors, who are so fanatical about condition and keeping the original metal intact, so they tried every known rust removal technique, and that one turned out to be clearly the elite method, and also the least work!

yeah, but I don't usually put rusty stuff in a frying pan and beat the **** out of it with a hammer:rocker:
 

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I wouldn't call it a fad, it was pioneered by the cast iron skillet collectors, who are so fanatical about condition and keeping the original metal intact, so they tried every known rust removal technique, and that one turned out to be clearly the elite method, and also the least work!

Agree, once all the equipment and solution is in operation, electrolysis is the least physical effort, but not really a recent invention.

Electrolysis was around when Griswold was still sold new at the corner hardware store. My grandfather used it on the farm with an old battery charger from a Baker electric. It's only because of the internet what was old seems new again.

BTW, this ain't Swiss watch repair we're discussing. Vises are large chunks of cast iron which were shot blasted as soon as they came out of the foundry molds.

I've cleaned vises with steel shot blasting, sand blasting, steel wire wheel and never seen any deterioration by the cleaning beyond whatever the rust has already damaged.

Where some Plomb pebble and Griswold/Wagner collectors get their lace knickers in a knot is thinking some fleamarket hamburger wire-wheeled off the logo detail when their delicate electrolysis machinations might have preserved more of it. Oftentimes, the piece was already so rusted that the cast logo detail would be pretty much gone when it comes out of the electrolysis, but I'd agree not everyone can be trusted around a logo with a cup wire wheel.

JMHO, If it's a rare and collectable artifact, then pass it on to someone who will pay more for it. If it's a rusty old vise, clean it however is most convenient and put it back to work.

jack vines
 
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Gtrotter: killer bench. any full size pictures of it and who made it? it looks like 3 foot or deeper and 8 or 10 foot wide?

Holland's are some of the best made, easiest to use and one of the easiest vises to take apart and put back together.

with all the vises all the way open it looks like they are ready to eat something. :D
Measured out to 116 inched long and 41 deep. It was made by George Koch and sons industrial equipment division. They are based out of Evansville Indiana which is about 30 minutes from my house. It came out of a ConocoPhillips station in the 60's. I'll try and nab a pic of it in the a.m.
 

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GT; thanks for the measurements and anytime you can share a couple pictures i'd love to see it full size. i always like metal and old growth wood combined on a lot of tools and furniture.

Jack: of course there are those Plvmp wrenches that had the name ground off after they lost their lawsuit with Plomb and had to grind off name to sell NOS.

just curious do you ever use Electrolysis? it might work better instead of wire wheeling or sandblasting? or do you just do the E tank on your precious car parts?
 

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"Where some Plomb pebble and Griswold/Wagner collectors get their lace knickers in a knot is thinking some fleamarket hamburger wire-wheeled off the logo detail when their delicate electrolysis machinations might have preserved more of it. "
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This cracked me up! :lol:
 
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Here are some pictures of the bench. About as big as I can get them on my phone.
 

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GT: I have to agree. that bench should last you a lifetime. maybe work on fitting some tool boxes or shelving underneath it if that might suit your needs better. thanks for the pictures
 
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