Please help Identify this battery terminal

[W-Cummins]

Please help me Identify this battery terminal's manufacture. It goes to a JCB 214S backhoe. I have never seen one like this until I got the machine. I was able to source the lug part new from JCB for a mere $23 (ouch) but I need the end of the main battery cable to the starter ( the 90 deg tapered end) as the bolt is broken off in it and is not going to come out They want $130 for the new cable and other than the end there's nothing wrong with it. It's a kinda cleaver setup but it's also nothing I have seen before. If any one from the UK might have seen on of these or knows who makes one it would be a great help

Thanks

William...

Edit:

I just realized that I may have not shown how the thing works!!

The tapered end enters the terminal from the back side and the bolt passes through the lug into the tapered part and that clamps the whole thing to the post

 

[matt_i]

I can only suggest pulling the complete B+ cable and take to a machine shop (yours if you have a good drill press or a Bridgeport). They or you should be able to fixture the 90 degree end and drill that bolt out to a thin sliver that can be "unwound" or cleaned out with a tap of the same size as original.

 

[Jbullfrog]

I am assuming you already went to Rueters to get the cable terminal and asked them how to fix it? I haven't worked on a JCB for 5 years, but they use a standard battery, so you could always make a new cable with standard ends for it.

 

[nissan_crawler]

That should fix your problems for $1.50 or so.

 

[sberry]

Yup, I would say this is a good place for a bit of imagination.

 

[Torque1st]

Or use a marine battery terminal:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/DEKA-MARINE-BATTERY-TERMINALS/GP_2006070_N_111+10201+600000921_10101.jcw
Available at any auto parts store. Then use a crimp-on welding cable lug on the cable itself. I usually solder them after crimping.

 

[35mastr]

That is the same ones that toyota uses. They are in stock in the parts dept.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Humm.. I'll call JCB over here and ask about getting hold of the 9 degree tapered end if you want, or try a plant machine breaker and ask if they have one.

 

[Jbullfrog]

I have used a left handed bit and easy-outs to save the cable on a JCB before, usually, it is quicker to just make a new cable.

 

[kbs2244]

If you have a West Marine store near you they will have the terminals and the tools to make a custom cable.

 

[W-Cummins]

Thanks for all the replies and sorry it took me so long to get back to this problem I was swatting out some other fires!

I am assuming you already went to Rueters to get the cable terminal and asked them how to fix it? I haven't worked on a JCB for 5 years, but they use a standard battery, so you could always make a new cable with standard ends for it.

Yep Second stop was Rueters ( first was NAPA to look at all their catalogs of battery terminals ) Their suggestion was to buy a new battery cable and from their point of view I agree

Or use a marine battery terminal:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/DEKA-MARINE-BATTERY-TERMINALS/GP_2006070_N_111+10201+600000921_10101.jcw
Available at any auto parts store. Then use a crimp-on welding cable lug on the cable itself. I usually solder them after crimping.

I have thought about that solution and I may just do that I picked up a bolt together battery terminal / disconnect from my first napa trip, that would probably work "ok"

That is the same ones that toyota uses. They are in stock in the parts dept.

I also looked at a ton of Toyota terminals and although they all look like the terminal I posted above none of them hook up a second wire with that strange tapered clamp/nut/wire lug arrangement as above...

Humm.. I'll call JCB over here and ask about getting hold of the 90 degree tapered end if you want, or try a plant machine breaker and ask if they have one.

Well a call to JCB would be cool if you think you can get them to tell you where they get the ends ( I don't think that they will sell just the end though as there is not a part number for them in their system)

I looked at a terminal like nissan_crawler showed ( in a HD truck version with 4 bolts) and could use one like it, IF it has the clamped cable intering from the "Side" of the terminal instead of the end so it would not interfere with the mounting of the fuse box.

I have used a left handed bit and easy-outs to save the cable on a JCB before, usually, it is quicker to just make a new cable.

Yep been there and didn't get it out, left hand drilled it, kroll'ed it, splined extractor ( twisted splines and then spun), spiral extractor tweaked until I thought it was going to snap off! I may be able to drill it over size and tap it to a SAE 5/16th. In retrospect I should have welded a nut on it and tried that first.....

So we now come to my latest plan. I'm thinking about getting a 1.5" piece of 5/8" brass hex and making my own end. Cut the tapered end off the 90 deg part and solder the 90 in to my adapter....

William

 

[nissan_crawler]

I looked at a terminal like nissan_crawler showed ( in a HD truck version with 4 bolts) and could use one like it, IF it has the clamped cable intering from the "Side" of the terminal instead of the end so it would not interfere with the mounting of the fuse box.
William

I would just solder an eye on to the cable, bolt the fusebox to one bolt, and the cable to the other. It works great, I do it all the time on cars that have the fuse box as part of the cheesy tin battery clamps. Those I just hacksaw up and use the eye already on the cable, though.

 

[W-Cummins]

Well if your not going to use the clamping part of the terminal, why not just use a marine style and attach the fuse box and put a lug terminal on the other and mount them both on one stud? Your above example is just what I'm trying to avoid it looks like a hack.

William....

 

[Vernmotor]

Well if your not going to use the clamping part of the terminal, why not just use a marine style and attach the fuse box and put a lug terminal on the other and mount them both on one stud? Your above example is just what I'm trying to avoid it looks like a hack.

William....

LMAO.. And just tell him how you realy feel ! ....