Hostyle
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I'm looking forward to seeing the result! The zipper idea for the domino should give a lot of strength.
Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Mid-Century Moto Mecca Makeover
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Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.
Tyberius
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You can still have a clean look with a magnetic push-to-open catch. It should work on the drawers too.
Always enjoy seeing an update to this thread.
funny, thats what I thought as well but it does remind me that I am coming up on renewal time.
funny, thats what I thought as well but it does remind me that I am coming up on renewal time.
TimRaleigh
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Ya, the 4mm are better, but I think you used too many Dominos. I think a biscuit joiner is better for this type of joint.
Also, use the Collins prep Ply router bit on one side. When you clamp the two panels together only the veneer sides touch the opposing face, compress slightly which closes up the line and when you clamp the joint disappears.
Tim
Thank you. That means a lot coming from the country of my favorite motorcycles! Someday I'll ride through Italy but I've loved every visit there.
Man, that's impressive. It scares me when I look back at far I've come. Would I do it again if I knew how much work this was going to be? Yeah, most likely, I'm stupid like that.
I think you're right on both counts. Okay, I'm going to research that bit. I finished the panel but not without drama so I would like to know more. I'm certainly on the backside of my love/hate relationship with pocket screws. It never ends well with 1/2" ply and thin veneer only adds to the drama.
Gregor
Vertigo Cycles
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Hey! Happy Birthday!
We all had a great time last night, thanks for including us. It's very apparent how much work you've put into the house. The kitchen is looking especially good with the cabinets finished (at least they looked finished.) I'm a little shocked that no one demanded that you take us all into the shop but it means another trip out there some time.
We all had a great time last night, thanks for including us. It's very apparent how much work you've put into the house. The kitchen is looking especially good with the cabinets finished (at least they looked finished.) I'm a little shocked that no one demanded that you take us all into the shop but it means another trip out there some time.
Thanks Sean. It was nice to finally be able to be at a place where we could invite people over. I know the kids all had a great time and I sure did. Good food and good company - can't ask for more. The shop was a mess in the run up so that will wait until warmer weather when we can do a real blow out.
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So in the lead up to our dinner I spent a few days trying to tie up the loose ends.
Yeah, that last one's not sharp. It's what happens when you hand the wife the pro camera without checking it. My bad.
And here's a trick that has worked for me. I've tried the nail in the caulk tube, the plastic wrap over the end and a few others and none have worked so well. Or at all. This I picked up from Family Handyman. Do nothing and let the caulk harden in the nozzle and then slice the nozzle with a knife and pry out the dried caulk then use electrical tape to reseal the nozzle. Next time cut the tape off and pry out the dried caulk and retape (all the way up to the end). It's worked so far for me.
The other one is to use magnets to hold things. I'm doing it everywhere. I've loved magnets since I was a kid and now with the super strong ones they're practical. I drilled a hole and glued in a pair of magnets to keep my step drill bits from falling out of the pocket hole jig. No more dropping them.
This bathroom is too small to really show but the trim is done and I added a quarter round around the ceiling just to see if I'd like it as a detail and I do.
The cabinets were close as my jig for the euro hinges was off on one side (came loose or was dropped) and I didn't notice until I'd drilled the first set of doors. Fortunately the built in adjustment was sufficient to correct and the alignment ended up spot on.
Here's my biggest **** up. That end panel, the angled one that I had to cut three times because it was complicated. In a rush I realized I hadn't poly'd it right before I put up the walnut and so I poly'd it in place... And forgot to stain it. Doh!
In the end you almost can't tell as it catches light differently but I suppose I'll yank it out and cut another (with the grain the way I'd intended all along) and then stain it and reinstall it. It will be a pain in the *** but I have to do it or it will forever taunt me.
Next up drawers!
Gregor
E12-535iTurbo
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I really like the contents of this picture. It looks casual but if you check the background there is a lot of nice equipment there. You've been making some nice progress in the garage as well. Even though you're saying you are mainly focussed on the house. I'm wondering what plans you have when the house is more or less done and you can turn your full attention to the garage.
FishTacoMan
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Here's my biggest **** up. That end panel...
Gregor
Really? If that's your biggest **** up I'd say you are way at the top of the All Star team. Even your **** ups look pretty darn good. Great build report. Thanks, Gregor.
Jay
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Awesome job Gregor! Love these last updates. In the pic of you staining, you can see your clamp holder setup in the background... hows that set up?? Looking to build something like that for myself but not really sure where do start without it looking ****** haha.
Drilled holes in a strip of ply, then set a depth limit on the Kapex to just hit them and then drilled and screwed to a second piece of ply that was into the studs. About as simple as I could make it but it works well. The new clamps are wider than the old but my spacing was barely enough for them.
Gregor
PS Thanks Jay!
My ideal workshop was Kenny Robert's British MotoGP shop but for the life of me I can't find a photo of it anymore. The nearest I can find is a shot of HRC's workshop:
My goal with the shop is to follow the lead of LilScorpion and make/find a place for everything so that the shop is neat. I'm a hot mess without a system of organization and I'm very much a creature of my grandfather's mantra, "a place for everything and everything in it's place".
So, long terms plans are to have my welding table blanchard ground and make a new base with wheels. To build a long bench on the wall with the window. To make a new garage door in the hanger style and to find "a place for everything" even though new tools (and motorcycles) are constantly finding their way into the shop.
This winter I'd like to build a swingarm for the Guzzi but that will require the digging out the welding table from all the junk piled on top. Without a place for everything, everything ends up all over the place.
Maybe a longer term goal is the one Ben and I jokingly discuss which is to extend the garage underground another 20-30' or perhaps up as well.
Gregor
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shirk
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My ideal workshop was Kenny Robert's British MotoGP shop but for the life of me I can't find a photo of it anymore. The nearest I can find is a shot of HRC's workshop:
My goal with the shop is to follow the lead of LilScorpion and make/find a place for everything so that the shop is neat. I'm a hot mess without a system of organization and I'm very much a creature of my grandfather's mantra, "a place for everything and everything in it's place".
So, long terms plans are to have my welding table blanchard ground and make a new base with wheels. To build a long bench on the wall with the window. To make a new garage door in the hanger style and to find "a place for everything" even though new tools (and motorcycles) are constantly finding their way into the shop.
This winter I'd like to build a swingarm for the Guzzi but that will require the digging out the welding table from all the junk piled on top. Without a place for everything, everything ends up all over the place.
Maybe a longer term goal is the one Ben and I jokingly discuss which is to extend the garage underground another 20-30' or perhaps up as well.
Gregor
Flash back. I worked on the production line at HCM (Honda Canada Manufacturing) as a student in university and again as a Mass Production buyer for several years. Any time I see the white uniforms it brings back memories.
You are 100% correct on the everything has it place. On the production line every tool had a proper home. Either on a shadow board or if in a drawer with a foam cutout. Every shelf and bin labelled for it's bolt/clip/nut/whatever.
Plan to also get my garage to that level, well minus the beige paint. I can do without the beige paint that was used everywhere in the plant.
Oh and you're thread is an inspiration. Thanks again for sharing.
jon72vega
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Excellent craftsmanship!
I read this entire thread over two days, and it left me wanting more when I got caught up to date.
Kind of like a good book you can't put down until you are finished reading it!
Jon
I read this entire thread over two days, and it left me wanting more when I got caught up to date.
Kind of like a good book you can't put down until you are finished reading it!
Jon
Jimbo..
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Everything, including your "**** up" looks pretty great to me. When you do get around to replacing that piece, make sure you hang on to it so you can use it as a template. Then you'll only have to cut it three more times to make it fit
madoc1
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thx for explanation of the table lift. great idea, tying the two cables into one.
jim
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rswitzer30
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Long time lurker and I believe this is my first post....
Gregor I read this thread from beginning to end and I am floored, jealous and inspired! You rock brother! I am guessing Im about 10 years younger than you and am just getting to the point in my life where I am adding woodworking, home repair and metal working/ fabrication to my list of " I know how to do that". My father in law suggested I pick my poison and stick with it and your thread proves to me that learning all these skills will be worth the investment of my time and money. Thank you for sharing your journey with the world.
I look foward to following you as you continue your adventure.
Well done sir!
Rob
Gregor I read this thread from beginning to end and I am floored, jealous and inspired! You rock brother! I am guessing Im about 10 years younger than you and am just getting to the point in my life where I am adding woodworking, home repair and metal working/ fabrication to my list of " I know how to do that". My father in law suggested I pick my poison and stick with it and your thread proves to me that learning all these skills will be worth the investment of my time and money. Thank you for sharing your journey with the world.
I look foward to following you as you continue your adventure.
Well done sir!
Rob
ODIS
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Have always enjoyed your thread. Great work and craftsmanship. Looking forward to the drawer/cabinet pulls.
Looked at the router bit that was recommended. Will be in my shop soon.
http://www.collinstool.com/base.php?page=collins_ply_prep.htm
All the best,
Ody.
Looked at the router bit that was recommended. Will be in my shop soon.
http://www.collinstool.com/base.php?page=collins_ply_prep.htm
All the best,
Ody.
Garage work is slowed at the moment but if you're looking for a fun diversion of the mechanical sort we've started the build on the Rev'It! AWD KTM Super Enduro. The "official" blog is here on Rev'It!'s site. And then I'm going to be doing a "behind the scene's" build on the bike on ADV.
Check out the links and join in the fun! It's going to start to move pretty quickly in the next week or so.
Gregor
Check out the links and join in the fun! It's going to start to move pretty quickly in the next week or so.
Gregor
Hostyle
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Great, I was wondering when the next update would be.
I was just wondering if you've ever been to Rev'It Europe in Oss, NL?
I was just wondering if you've ever been to Rev'It Europe in Oss, NL?
All very swanky (that IS a compliment by the way).
Re the walnut edge banding. I have a cabinet maker friend. He was given a lorry load of ash thinnings - that's plantation grown ash trees, thinned to encourage taller and straighter growth, all sawn and planed to one section size but random lengths.
He spent about a year making all sorts of things from this stuff, furniture, decorative and functional, all sorts.
Maybe you could laminate some up some of your walnut to use as say picture frames. The glue lines could be a resonance of all the birchply you have used.
I did a similar thing for my German Bauhaus posters and it does look good if you are into the modernist vibe.
Re the walnut edge banding. I have a cabinet maker friend. He was given a lorry load of ash thinnings - that's plantation grown ash trees, thinned to encourage taller and straighter growth, all sawn and planed to one section size but random lengths.
He spent about a year making all sorts of things from this stuff, furniture, decorative and functional, all sorts.
Maybe you could laminate some up some of your walnut to use as say picture frames. The glue lines could be a resonance of all the birchply you have used.
I did a similar thing for my German Bauhaus posters and it does look good if you are into the modernist vibe.
vagabondmidget
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I like how you render your photos especially the two above of the bike and shop.
Sure. It's two cables on two pullies for either side of the table. The brackets are centered in the balance point for the table.
Those two cables are cut to length so that they end at the same point (one is longer) and they go off to the side. Mostly to get enough room so that there's sufficient cable after the two join into one cable. The two join the single cable which runs in a single pulley.
This pulley redirects the run to the hoist which I mounted over the bike bay so that it could be used to lift a bike.
I used another pulley below the hoist so as to redirect the cable from the horizontal to the vertical so the hoist can be just screwed into the ceiling. I angled the hoist so that the four long cabinet screws could each be in a different 2x3 to spread the load.
You can see the cables holding the table in this shot. I fastened it to the side so I could lift it as high as possible since my ceiling is only 8' tall and space is at a premium. The other thing you can see is that I ran an extension vacuum tube along the ceiling that is paired with an extension cord from the vacuum's powered switch. This way when I lower the table and use a tool the vacuum and power cord are hanging from above and not tangled on the floor. I had done this a while ago and it worked well so I redid it in a more organized way. The other benefit is that the vacuum is now central to the garage and I can vacuum up the floors pretty easily.
Gregor
It's late and I'm trying to make sense of this picture...
Are you able to secure the table and use the winch separately? Looked like you have an extra pulley that's not being used for anything; I'm trying to figure out what it's for.
I imagine it's not a big concern, especially if you don't need to use the winch that often. But -
I envisioned a separate cable, attached to the winch cable, that joined just outside of your vertical -> horizontal pulley (when the table is stored). Then, a strong carabiner bolted within reach that could take over the duty of holding it up.
Apologies if you already had a solution for that, I didn't see it in the pictures. Judging from the rest of the thread, it's probably brilliantly simplistic and I missed it
Cseger1
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I spent a decade hanging extremely large sound systems up in the air above people's heads. Since I can see very little of the rigging in the pic, I'm not accusing you of doing something unsafe, but the presence of those wire ropes resting horizontally to the floor sends the alarm bells into overdrive for me. Here's a really good explanation of what types of load multipliers come into play the more horizontal your lift cable becomes.
http://www.ropebook.com/information/vector-forces
The sheave on the ceiling looks like it is keeping you out of "problem one eighty" but like I said,I can't really see the whole rig so I thought I'd post the link. Even if your hang isn't risky,it's probably food info for everyone on this site to be familiar with.
If it's not asking too much,I'd love to see a shot of it halfway to trim height.
Cseger1
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Oh, it looks like this has Been addressed. I need to catch up.
Cseger1
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Ok, I looked at the picture just above my first post and see that the hoist cable runs through a sheave below the hoist and then horizontally to another sheave that is directly above the table. I would calculate what the angle of the hoist itself to the table in the full lifted position is. It looks like it's really close to 180 though. Now, factoring the the extra capacity that the two sheaves bought you, how much force do you think is on the whole contraption?
Denwood
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Gregor, thanks for sucking about 3 hours from my life. Ha. As a guy designing/manufacturing equipment for guys like you (well, more on the film side actually) your collection of skills, and voracious appetite for learning new ones is inspiring. The bikes are gorgeous, your commercial stills even better..and I wish I had never read this thread...particularly after working until 1:30 on my own shop rebuild.
So my question... which came first, the chicken or the egg? Were you a photog first and picked up the machining skills later, or vice versa. I'd love to hear your story.
So my question... which came first, the chicken or the egg? Were you a photog first and picked up the machining skills later, or vice versa. I'd love to hear your story.
Gregor,
That drawing about the angle is not what you have, since you have pullies on top, redirecting the force of pull from the table. The pullies redirect the vertical force of holding the table to a horizontal force. The horizontal force on the cables is the same as the vertical force.
Now the force on the pully itself is something else, and would be similar to the 90 degree vector force "ok" angle in the link he attached, though with a resultant force 45 degrees to the angle of the base plant.
This made sense in my head, but not sure if it came out clearly enough. End result is that your table is light, and the use of pullies limits the amount of force required to get the table in the air.
Later,
Cseger1
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Agreed, that's what I meant by "Now, factoring the the extra capacity that the two sheaves bought you," that those two pulleys are definitely giving you some anchoring power.
What I was unsure of, but I think you've clarified, was if those extra angles negated what would otherwise be a 540% increase in load. Turning the cable twice like that is something I've never done while suspending a load.
paranoid56
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all this talk is making me relive my statics and dynamics classes. dont do that 
e3pres
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all this talk is making me relive my statics and dynamics classes. dont do that
I think the concern is that the calculation will move from the former discipline to the latter.
The chicken. For sure.
I was always interested in photography from about the time I was 8 years old and because I was very lucky to have the full support of my family I was never told I should do something practical or sensible. My grandfather owned a pharmacy and gave me a roll of film every Sunday after church. The church part didn't stick but the film made a lasting impression. My father let me use his Minolta SR-7 and a family friend introduced me to the darkroom.
So, all through high school and then into college I took photos and got paid for it. I was also lucky to have two very influential photography teachers that told me I probably wouldn't succeed (too competitive they said) and to them I'm indebted as it became my solitary goal to prove them wrong. Ha!
All the fascination with machines happened after I got my first motorcycle and the friends that came with it. Being surrounded by people (far) more talented than me stoked my desire to learn but more than anything it was seeing these guys build, machine, fabricate and create with no instructions or no manuals - only their common sense and skill, it blew me away. I knew that I wanted to learn everything I could until I could build my own bike. I'm now pretty close but there's always more to learn for which I'm grateful.
Gregor
Denwood
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Great story. My first camera was a Minolta X7-A, which I still have 
. I used some old Rokkor lenses from that kit during my first experiments with shallow DOF adapters for HD video cameras...which led to Cinevate. I left a cushy (read boring) systems analyst gig with the Feds to do my own thing. I get it. Your garage/house shots have me reaching for my old 5D mkII instead of the rather convenient iOS device to at least fake a few artistic shots Gregor.
Threads like this keep me off the couch and motivated to be productive.
. I used some old Rokkor lenses from that kit during my first experiments with shallow DOF adapters for HD video cameras...which led to Cinevate. I left a cushy (read boring) systems analyst gig with the Feds to do my own thing. I get it. Your garage/house shots have me reaching for my old 5D mkII instead of the rather convenient iOS device to at least fake a few artistic shots Gregor.Threads like this keep me off the couch and motivated to be productive.