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How well do Wilton shop kings hold round parts/pipe? I've been looking for a larger vise with pipe jaws but none have popped up on cl except this small shop king.
 

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Reed 206r for 100$ - Looks rough but what do you think? (trying to clip pic in but newbie:(

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/tls/4805426988.html
 

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Ldr: other than heavy pitting in cast and missing end on handle it looks good. Check the screw from underneath to see if pretty clean and if there are any cracks or welds. I'd buy that 140 pounder for a Benjamin for sure if it checks out so go look at it before its gone
 

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Inspect the slide near where it meets the jaw. am I seeing weld there? I'd go look at it for sure. otherwise, what drives said.
 

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How well do Wilton shop kings hold round parts/pipe? I've been looking for a larger vise with pipe jaws but none have popped up on cl except this small shop king.

I'm embarrassed to say, but I never even clamped anything in the regular jaws before restoring and selling it, much less the pipe jaws. But If I was a betting man, after having one in my hands, I'd say anything over a 3/4'-1" pipe would not hold well at all. They are a nice heavy hobby shop or garage vise, but not a heavy use vise by any stretch. Wilton produced the Shop King as a affordable home owners hobby vise after the war. I think they were produced for less than 10 years. Mine was a '53 model I think.
 

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Reed 206r for 100$ - Looks rough but what do you think? (trying to clip pic in but newbie:(

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/tls/4805426988.html


That vise looks like it spent too much time outside, unused. There's going to be a LOT of sanding involved in reclaiming that vise. I'd inspect it thoroughly to make sure that nothing is seized. It could be a great vise (Reeds are my favorites), but in that condition I wouldn't pay more than $75 or less.
 

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You guys were right, the jaws definitely look better in their original positions.

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How well do Wilton shop kings hold round parts/pipe? I've been looking for a larger vise with pipe jaws but none have popped up on cl except this small shop king.


From my experience, combination vises don't do well for pipe work (cutting, reaming & threading). mainly because there isn't enough grip area on the jaws. The best thing to get is a arbor type, quick release pipe vise, like a Reed No.2. Because pipe vises are specialized, they can be bought cheap.

Edit: I really love the Wilton shop kings for their art deco style. If I come across one, I'll make it a book shelf vise or a folk art piece.



BTW: Merry Christmas Vise Friends!
 
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I'd pass... the pitting on top is bad.

If you do go after it, I would recommend an acid dip rather than sanding. Just let it soak for a week or two with a brushing each night. Eventually all the rust will come off.

If I lived in Jacksonville I would ****** that 6" vise up in a second. A 40 grit sanding disc would remove the rust pitting in minutes and no one would ever know the casting is missing 3/32 or more of material. As long as there is no cracks and the spindle threads are in descent shape and jaws are OK. Six inch Reeds are not something you see everyday.
 

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Thanks Kevin. Those are steel nut and bolt combos. 1/4" x 3 1/2" for the swivel locks and 1/2" x 8" for the main handle. I slide the bolt in put some JB Weld on the threads and jam the nuts down really tight, they aren't going anywhere. I cut off the excess, protruding threads with a hacksaw. Then I put a socket on a drill to spin them against my 1" belt sander to round off the hex ends. Finally I clean everything up on the wire wheel. Cheap, easy and sturdy handle replacements for guys like me without a lathe.

Edit: Giving credit where credit is due; Nick, Autopts, taught me this method.

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Anyone want a Craftsman 5197 ? (not mine)
It's too expensive for me. :sad:
But, it's near me if someone needs it to be picked up for them. :evil:

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/tls/4818191933.html

VINTAGE CRAFTSMAN swivel bench vise #5197 - $200 (middleton)

VINTAGE CRAFTSMAN swivel bench vise #5197....very large and heavy....very good condition....4 1/2" jaws...opens to 8 to 10 inches........$200.00....questions welcome

The seller was originally asking less, but I think he pulled the original ad when he saw that there was another one (in better shape) listed on ebay at this same new price.

He also has a 5" Walworth listed for $125.
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/tls/4805116084.html
 

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I reinforced my fireplace mantle to support an extra heavy duty Christmas stocking. I hope Santa catches the hint.
 

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Hey guys, been away from here a little bit. Damn, this thread moves fast. Anyway, here's a couple pics of a vise stand I just built, and a smaller Columbian I did a quicky restore on. The 3.5" Reed on the vise stand is one I picked up for $10., missing the swivel base. No luck with finding a swivel, and on closer inspection after cleaning it up, it had lived a pretty hard life. Lots of hammering on the slide, if it was a Prentiss it probably wouldn't have survived, had to file it down to get it out of the static jaw. So I drilled another mounting hole on the other side, and put the stand together out of stuff I had hanging around. Haven't decided if I'm going to paint it yet. Plan to use it mostly for welding. The little Columbian was in near mint condition, but had a lot of paint dripped on it, so cleaned it up and repainted AMR.
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Sorry to interrupt the GJ bonding, but I just discovered this vise. A trojan 707. Has anybody ever heard of it?

It's for sale and the guy says it's still available. It's where my dad works and he won't go back until after christmas and all so we'll see how this pans out.

I really really really really hope that means 7 inches
 

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I googled Trojan 707 and didn't find anything. It does say it on the base though.

Trojan is a brand of Parker. Check out Page 1035, Post 20691 on this thread for more pictures and descriptions. I agree with Outlaw that the dynamic support looks like it has broken off.
 

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Hmm, ps: make sure the support under the front of the base has not been busted off; looks kinda empty down there...
Yeah I see what you're saying. I wish I could find another picture to compare. Hopefully the fresh paint job isn't hiding anything. That could explain the cheap price
 

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Gee, I remember a time when no-one would buy a Trojan in public, let alone show one to people they didn't know.

The times they are a' changin'.

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He got back to me and said it was a 7 inch and completely honestly that the front mounting hole was broken off and that's why it was so cheap. He painted it as he was doing another vise and there were no other repairs. What could you do to a vise like this to make it usable, weld on a new bracket? I would probably mount it to a pedestal if that makes a difference.
 

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So one mounting hole on the other side is also gone? Did you find out of the front slide support is gone?

Its not looking good...
 

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He got back to me and said it was a 7 inch and completely honestly that the front mounting hole was broken off and that's why it was so cheap. He painted it as he was doing another vise and there were no other repairs. What could you do to a vise like this to make it usable, weld on a new bracket? I would probably mount it to a pedestal if that makes a difference.
Edit, not the mounting hole but that front support. It will bolt to a table fine but is missing the front slide support
 
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A little light vise reading this Christmas morning. I recently bought an old Adams vise, made in Dubuque, Iowa. I posted it on page 1143, post 22586 of this thread:

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Underneath the filth it seemed to have a fair amount of possibly original paint. So I decided to keep it original, and not strip it down. It is probably the oldest vise I own, and I thought keeping the original finish would be neat. Like they say, "It is only original once".

The first problem arose when I tried to remove the dynamic jaw. If you look closely at the photo below you may see that the leadscrew is bent behind the nut:

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After carefully studying the situation, I was able to get the vise into my shop press and straighten the leadscrew "in place" just enough to get the dynamic jaw out. After about 12 careful operations in the press, it was straight enough to move in and out with just a little tightness in spots.

I hit the handle and spindle with a brass wire wheel:

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The jaw detail came out after cleaning. They looked good after the same wire wheel treatment:

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Then I cleaned up all the other parts with soap and water, followed by 0000 steel wool on the areas with paint loss. Then I soaked everything in light oil and left it for a couple of days:

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I'll finish the story on the next post.
 
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