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Cheap but thin roto head/swivel head ratchet needed

lilrob1213

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I've been looking for a cheaper version of the snap on 3/8" swivel head ratchet. It's the only ratchet I've found that works in a very tight spot on a certain job and only with a certain socket... that's how tight the spot is. Now, I've been searching for hours trying to find a thin profile ratchet that'll work in the same situation. I'm wondering if the harbor freight swivel head ratchet or the gearwrench roto head ratchets are as thin as the snapon one at the head thickness? The website for snapon says the thickness is 7/16". Could someone with the gearwrench or harbor freight version measure theirs?
 
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would a shorter socket help ? Koken & Hazets can be quite small or just get busy and grind down a cheapie one to see if it works
 

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Most roto head ratchets are pretty thick. If a flex head will work, the Armstrong MAXX has a pretty low profile head, I believe the Gearwrench has a similar thickness as well, both should be thinner than the Snap On.
 

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So I know how frustrating it is to ask for something you want and be directed to something else, and I'm an offender too:

they make sockets that are fairly low profile and pop into a ratcheting wrench. The ones I have I think are Craftsman, and seem more shallow than a typical shallow socket that would fit on sq drive. These combined with a flex ratcheting wrench might be your lowest-profile option.

I only have said sockets in metric and actually need to find fractional but don't know exactly what they're called. Searching Sears for "socket" will cause me to contemplate swallowing a gun.

Again, sorry for not having the specific info you requested.
 

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The Snap-On ratchet you're looking at is the 3/8" in a 1/4" roto body (FHCNF72), which has the 7/16" head thickness vs their standard 3/8" roto with a 11/16" head thickness.

I didn't even know they offered them, but now I want one...:lol_hitti

I don't have the Gearwrench or HF, but do have the current Kobalt Taiwan and older SK in 3/8" roto heads (as well as a Snap-On 1/4" roto).

Kobalt roto: 9/16" (5/8" including the selector)
SK roto: 11/16" (3/4" including the selector)

If a flex head will work, the Armstrong MAXX has a pretty low profile head, I believe the Gearwrench has a similar thickness as well, both should be thinner than the Snap On.
3/8" Armstrong/Matco/Gearwrench (not 120xp) teardrop heads should all be about 7/16" thick head.
 

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My Gearwrench 81224 roto measures 0.452" head thickness whereas 7/16" = 0.4375".

You mentioned a special socket. What is special about it?

They make low profile sockets for tight clearance situations. Snap On even has a set that includes a thin profile Dual 80 ratchet.
 

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Would a ratcheting box end wrench work. Maybe bending it to the angle you need?
 

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Snap on low profile socket (18mm) in a low-profile 1/4 inch ratchet (11mm) is as thin as you can get. Since most other flex ratchets don't flex very close to the rotational axis, they may not work and this is probably why th OP is asking for this specific combo.

So,

1) needs to be 12mm or thinner

2) needs to be 1/4 drive

3) needs to flex

4) needs to fit a recessed area ( flex near the square, not 2 inches away)

(If the OP is using a reg shallow 1/4 socket, using the lo profile 1/4 drive will save you 3mm to 7mm depending on brand, and allow you to use a more common ratchet)
 
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I have GearWrench roto head in 1/4 and 3/8 and I like them. Those would for sure be cheaper than SnapOn and have a lifetime warranty for original purchaser. I think some of the tool trucks may sell them, as does sears and maybe Advance Auto. Advance Auto is where I got my Armstrong stuff so if I need to warranty it I can take it there. They don't have it in stock, but if don't need it in the next few days they can take care of it without me paying to ship it somewhere. If you buy it at Sears they will honor the warranty. I've heard they won't if you don't buy it there so save your receipt
 

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This one at Northern Tool is tiny, idk how much torque you need to put on it since "long handle" and "micro" would seem mutually exclusive... But if you pick one up I'm for sure curious about it myself...
 

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If you need a flex head that doesn't need to be a roto, the new NAPA Carlyle locking flex has the smallest head dimensions of any 1/4 drive ratchet I've yet seen. If you're after a 3/8 drive, Harbor Freight sells a T-Handled roto-head "thing" with a super tiny 1/4 roto head with a 3/8 drive spindle in it. You can easily remove the T handle from the ratchet, giving you the smallest 3/8 drive roto I've found anywhere.
 
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Wow this thread is blowing up! I expected like two replies but you guys are awesome! One of y'all hit it on the head. The Snapon ratchet I have found that works is the FHCNF72. Its a 3/8 drive in a 1/4 body. And I have to use a 17mm socket and the only one I have thin profile enough is 3/8 drive. Also, what helps in this situation is the on/off selector on the Snapon roto head one is cut out kind of which helps me wiggle my way into the spot I need to be. So the other thin profile ratchets with the same head thickness of 7/16" wouldn't work cuz really the thickness without the selector (the voided third) is about .40 and with selector is .47ish and I just want a thinner 3/8 ratchet for general use.
I have seen these ratcheting wrench adaptors that make a ratcheting wrench into a 3/8 drive socket driver. Could anyone measure one of those with a gearwrench ratcheting wrench?
 
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Most roto head ratchets are pretty thick. If a flex head will work, the Armstrong MAXX has a pretty low profile head, I believe the Gearwrench has a similar thickness as well, both should be thinner than the Snap On.

This. If head profile is the determining factor I'd go with a flexhead teardrop.
 

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Wow this thread is blowing up! I expected like two replies but you guys are awesome! One of y'all hit it on the head. The Snapon ratchet I have found that works is the FHCNF72. Its a 3/8 drive in a 1/4 body. And I have to use a 17mm socket and the only one I have thin profile enough is 3/8 drive. Also, what helps in this situation is the on/off selector on the Snapon roto head one is cut out kind of which helps me wiggle my way into the spot I need to be. So the other thin profile ratchets with the same head thickness of 7/16" wouldn't work cuz really the thickness without the selector (the voided third) is about .40 and with selector is .47ish and I just want a thinner 3/8 ratchet for general use.
I have seen these ratcheting wrench adaptors that make a ratcheting wrench into a 3/8 drive socket driver. Could anyone measure one of those with a gearwrench ratcheting wrench?

This is what I was mentioning (again, if its of no use just tell me to f**k off). A 17mm SK G-Pro is .406. The complete assy is 1.212 overall thickness. I don't own any GW, sorry.
 

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Can only attach 1 per post. Assembled.

You could EASILY turn or grind the socket to make it shorter.
 

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This apex is under 1 inch total stack height (with 1/2 in above the square drive).
 

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If you need a flex head that doesn't need to be a roto, the new NAPA Carlyle locking flex has the smallest head dimensions of any 1/4 drive ratchet I've yet seen. If you're after a 3/8 drive, Harbor Freight sells a T-Handled roto-head "thing" with a super tiny 1/4 roto head with a 3/8 drive spindle in it. You can easily remove the T handle from the ratchet, giving you the smallest 3/8 drive roto I've found anywhere.

I can't seem to find this t-handle ratchet. Could I get a part number or link? Thanks!
 
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I have GearWrench roto head in 1/4 and 3/8 and I like them. Those would for sure be cheaper than SnapOn and have a lifetime warranty for original purchaser. I think some of the tool trucks may sell them, as does sears and maybe Advance Auto. Advance Auto is where I got my Armstrong stuff so if I need to warranty it I can take it there. They don't have it in stock, but if don't need it in the next few days they can take care of it without me paying to ship it somewhere. If you buy it at Sears they will honor the warranty. I've heard they won't if you don't buy it there so save your receipt

Hi, could you please measure your 3/8" drive gearwrench roto head ratchet? I would like the dimensions from the edge of the square drive side (not the end but where the socket would **** up against when seated) to the back end of the ratchet where the selector is? If you could include measurements with and without the selector, that would be great! :)
 

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When you're in there , buy a 17mm socket and grinder ,then grind away, (maybe even take the grinder back ) Seems the most logical way to sort out clearance issues

What is it that you are working on ?
Maybe you are missing a trick somewhere , like a access panel or something?
 
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Okay, here's what I'm working on. It's a picture of an Air Tractor (crop duster). The space is really tight. It's two bolts facing aft holding the A/C housing to the drive shaft housing assembly. I should have measured the space between the end of the one bolt and the head of the other, but I didn't. And that third bolt below has to come out before I can get a socket on the other two. I can't get a box end wrench on the inside of those two, not enough clearance, but a socket works. And I'd rather not grind on my sockets (at least not that set given to me by my grandpa who passed). I'd rather just have an extra handy ratchet.

That being said, when I stopped by harbor freight this afternoon I picked up that long handle t bar 3/8 drive ratchet. The head is slightly bigger than the snap on one, but man is this thing small! I think it'll come in handy in other situations if not this one. I bought a set of the square drive to hex adapters as well for ratcheting wrenches if that doesn't work out.

The measurements of this t-handle 3/8 ratchet are 0.53" where the socket backs up to one of the thirds not obstructed by the selector (tightest fit) and 0.645" to the back of the selector where it will actually be when I'm ratcheting. Which compares nicely to the snap-on where it's 0.495" and 0.54" respectively (I think on that last one anyway if memory serves correctly). And the length of the ratchet handle comes in at a whopping 3.75" from head to handle end!
 

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Okay, here's what I'm working on. It's a picture of an Air Tractor (crop duster). The space is really tight. It's two bolts facing aft holding the A/C housing to the drive shaft housing assembly. I should have measured the space between the end of the one bolt and the head of the other, but I didn't. And that third bolt below has to come out before I can get a socket on the other two. I can't get a box end wrench on the inside of those two, not enough clearance, but a socket works. And I'd rather not grind on my sockets (at least not that set given to me by my grandpa who passed). I'd rather just have an extra handy ratchet.

That being said, when I stopped by harbor freight this afternoon I picked up that long handle t bar 3/8 drive ratchet. The head is slightly bigger than the snap on one, but man is this thing small! I think it'll come in handy in other situations if not this one. I bought a set of the square drive to hex adapters as well for ratcheting wrenches if that doesn't work out.

The measurements of this t-handle 3/8 ratchet are 0.53" where the socket backs up to one of the thirds not obstructed by the selector (tightest fit) and 0.645" to the back of the selector where it will actually be when I'm ratcheting. Which compares nicely to the snap-on where it's 0.495" and 0.54" respectively (I think on that last one anyway if memory serves correctly). And the length of the ratchet handle comes in at a whopping 3.75" from head to handle end!

Do you not have ratcheting wrenches?
 
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I do, however, the housing sticks out at an awkward spot and I think there's not enough clearance for the ratcheting wrench.
 

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I've been looking for a cheaper version of the snap on 3/8" swivel head ratchet. It's the only ratchet I've found that works in a very tight spot on a certain job and only with a certain socket... that's how tight the spot is. Now, I've been searching for hours trying to find a thin profile ratchet that'll work in the same situation. I'm wondering if the harbor freight swivel head ratchet or the gearwrench roto head ratchets are as thin as the snapon one at the head thickness? The website for snapon says the thickness is 7/16". Could someone with the gearwrench or harbor freight version measure theirs?

Roto? Nah. Try something else man. Adjust the angle jedi apprentice!
 
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Okay... I wanted to update this thread and say thank you all for your input. I tried out that roto head 3/8 drive ratchet with long t-handle from harbor frieght, but even with grinding my socket, still couldn't accomplish the job. I finally broke down and bought a snap on 3/8 drive in 1/4 body roto head ratchet because it works and I just give up trying to find something else that works. Plus the snap on truck guy gave me a little discount, so that helps ;)
 
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