The VISES of Garage Journal

[oldldh]

OK this just a question , If someone wants this vise I will link the craigslist ad:

Here is the question this vise is posted for 125.00 but to me it appears it is missing the swivel base?

I am just curious as I am half poking around for another vise to put in the larger garage where I do welding and such. So you vise aficionados is it missing a piece ?

Cypher

Nope, it's all there...I think...

It "Swivels" on that central pivot bolt...

Goes through your workbench...

It's not as convenient as the swivel bases, but it does rotate...

I wouldn't pay that much for it, unless it was 5"+...However...

 

[zkling]

OK this just a question , If someone wants this vise I will link the craigslist ad:

Here is the question this vise is posted for 125.00 but to me it appears it is missing the swivel base?

I am just curious as I am half poking around for another vise to put in the larger garage where I do welding and such. So you vise aficionados is it missing a piece ?

Cypher

I'm pretty sure it is missing the swivel base. The tell tail for me is the back ear does not have a through hole which would indicate it was designed as a swivel vise. That vise is too modern to be a through bench swivel bolt. I think. Do they list dimensions or model number?

 

[TreePointer]

Looks like the first picture shows a side hole and a rear hole. The other side hole is likely obscured by the bolt in the middle. That means you can mount it with or without a base.

 

[drivesitfar]

ZK: Oldie is correct it is an older Columbian that you adjust the swivel from below. it does look like it's missing a big plate and a huge washer though. if it had that it might be worth the asking price or closer to it. as is maybe $75 because you'd have to rig something up to keep it from turning either way on your bench. it does look like you might be able to mount is solid so not sure if previous owner drilled holes or if there were 3 holes in it from the factory with the bolt below.

Oldie: amazing lighthouse picture, but our Canadian friends are only humoring us because our dollar might be worth half of theirs some day. or so they keep hoping.

 

[jakemac]

OK this just a question , If someone wants this vise I will link the craigslist ad:

Here is the question this vise is posted for 125.00 but to me it appears it is missing the swivel base?





I am just curious as I am half poking around for another vise to put in the larger garage where I do welding and such. So you vise aficionados is it missing a piece ?

Cypher

It's missing a flat base plate. The plate would be screwed to the bench, and the vise would sit in it with the screw going through the bench. The vise would be friction locked in place when the bottom nut was tightened.

That plate us usually the first thing that goes missing the first time the vise is removed from a bench. Most surviving vises of that style are missing them.

 

[Outlawmws]

This thread is lively - seems like only a few days ago we were anxiously anticipating 1000 pages. Reaching 1239 today, we'll soon be approaching 1300.

What a ride!


Blue

It hit critical mass...

 

[oakundeisen]

Oak: nice restoration and did the paint on the letters adhere nicely to the BLO or did you have those wiped off before painting?

I painted it with testors enamel before the BLO and it ran all over the place - lesson learned. I wiped off and touched it up - it's a vise after all not a '63 Lusso.

 

[oakundeisen]

I found this in PA this week and bought it just by this photo for $100! I figure how can I go wrong? Bench and vise started life together in a PA steel plant. I don't know for sure but I'm willing to bet the vise is a Columbian 204 1/2.

I wont be out there for a couple weeks, can't wait! This was on CL for over 30 days before I snatched it up. Waiting for a pic of the vise from the seller but I paid him already anyway.

Nice get. Picked up a similar millwrights chest with a Ridgid 2C at an auction over the summer. Tack welds on the nuts so the whole thing was one money - $105 bucks - priced 4 8'' industrial casters with zerk fittings lately?

 

[zkling]

ZK: Oldie is correct it is an older Columbian that you adjust the swivel from below. it does look like it's missing a big plate and a huge washer though. if it had that it might be worth the asking price or closer to it. as is maybe $75 because you'd have to rig something up to keep it from turning either way on your bench. it does look like you might be able to mount is solid so not sure if previous owner drilled holes or if there were 3 holes in it from the factory with the bolt below.

Oldie: amazing lighthouse picture, but our Canadian friends are only humoring us because our dollar might be worth half of theirs some day. or so they keep hoping.

My mistake. I was thinking it was setup like my 604 which is of this style.

 

[joe.striper]

Nice get. Picked up a similar millwrights chest with a Ridgid 2C at an auction over the summer. Tack welds on the nuts so the whole thing was one money - $105 bucks - priced 4 8'' industrial casters with zerk fittings lately?

Yes, i recently bought a case of casters for $70 and it included 4-6" casters with 2 grease fittings . New they go for $230 each. Yeah I'm pretty jacked to pick the cabinet up. I got this cabinet and a 6.5" Prentiss vise from 2 different sellers 2 miles apart from each other. Really weird.the way it happened.

 

[wrenchguy]

Folks, here's the link to the Prentiss 8.5" i mentioned a couple pages back. I bet this one goes high to loonie.
Zkling: your message store is full and you can't receive messages.

http://www.bidspotter.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/bscmy/catalogue-id-bscmy10183/lot-d55c0e40-37df-40f2-8963-a41b012ab8b4

Thrumcap

Anyone got any ink on this 8.5" bulldog 38?????

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Parker 271 1/2

Before:

After

Sorry for the late reply. Beautiful restoration. You created a work of art!

 

[bl00]

Anyone got any ink on this 8.5" bulldog 38?????

I think it's a 98. At home I have a page showing that model. It has the sizes up to the number 97. Remind me if I haven't posted it by tonight.

 

[Colin Len]

Colin: it's hard to make fun of you or say that you don't know what the heck you are doing when you post a fairly clean old Wilton bullet. they are one of the best sellers for the last 70 years. whether its the best vise is debatable, but i won't go into that because i'd use my baby bullet all the time.

as far as value i doubt you could put $25 per inch or $ amount per pound on any vise. they are all very different in condition and once you get above 5 inches all bets are off as they get harder to find.

your wilton is roughly worth $150 +- depending on how wide the actual jaws are and if there are any hidden problems and as you get to the 4 and 5 inchers that price doubles and up from there. of course all depends on condition.

go to a member's site witonviseparts.net and he will have what you need for your Wilton.

Perfect, thanks for your insight!

 

[zoomieport]

Matchless has provided us with a good prime time show for Monday night.---Jumped out of the gate pretty strong.---Nice looking 4C.---This is on the Reed channel.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINTY-185-l...176?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4daabc08

That REED 4C is SPECTACULAR...
Steve (Matchless Antiques) always has top-notch stuff!

 

[oldldh]

That REED 4C is SPECTACULAR...
Steve (Matchless Antiques) always has top-notch stuff!

Gasp!!!

As of this post, it's at $ 610.00 plus a big freight charge---unspecified...

That's a $ 700.00 plus vise and it's still got three days to go!!!

Gasp!!!

Awful nice though...

 

[ShadowRuleZ]

Picked these up today, probably bid against someone from here for them. Probably paid a fair price of around 200 for the C1, but I really wanted it for myself. It's in great shape and still has the rear cap. Also finally got a Reed, it's a 205 and it was about 50. After I picked it up I noticed the base is cracked though. Anyone have a spare?

 

[decaf]

I´m about to buy this vice and wonder how to restore it.
I would like to paint it in the original green color.
Anyone knows where to find that color?
Any other things i should check when i restore it?

 

[GETRIDAONE]

How about a couple of small ones, they need attention too. I went to a tool meet about an hour away yesterday. I bought four vises, missed a Parker
coachmaker and an odd one that I didn't get a chance to take a picture of. It had plate steel jaws about 4" and had a gear box on top and side lever that allowed you move the jaws faster than the lead screw. The main housing was
a solid oval casting and the slide was a solid triangle shape. No Name ?
What I did get was an Athol size 0 ( 1 1/4" jaws ) quick adjusting vise.
The smaller one looks like a Colton pattern vise with 1" jaws, but no markings under the static jaw unless it is under the thick japanning.
The Starrett needs some cleaning but it should be nice when done and last a
FPU clamp vise with 2" jaws. The FPU has surface rust but is very tight and smooth.
Oh did I mention the "Parker Bear"

 

[wrenchguy]

Parker 271 1/2

Before:

I think my CP 275 is original paint. Do u think urs was original?

 

[McBrownie]

My mistake. I was thinking it was setup like my 604 which is of this style.

zkling,

Nice 604! It reminded me of this 606 that I saw in a building that was about 3 miles from the old Columbian factory in East Cleveland (which is not Cleveland proper). The handle was made out of 3/4" or 7/8" bar stock. It was an absolute beast and not for sale.

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[Exeter]

I think my CP 275 is original paint. Do u think urs was original?

Given how little the vise was used along with the fact that the paint was everywhere including the outside of the main nut, I think there is a high probability that the paint was original on my Parker.

 

[econotrk]

Oh did I mention the "Parker Bear"

All nice finds there Getridaone, love to find myself an Athol one day. A Parker bear would be nice, what does one of those weigh?

 

[zkling]

zkling,

Nice 604! It reminded me of this 606 that I saw in a building that was about 3 miles from the old Columbian factory in East Cleveland (which is not Cleveland proper). The handle was made out of 3/4" or 7/8" bar stock. It was an absolute beast and not for sale.

Hey McBrownie, that is not MY 604, just the same style of the one I have. I was too lazy to walk out and take a picture of mine to show drivesitfar what I was thinking of to ID that vise a page back. I too like columbian vises have a 504 and 604.

 

[drivesitfar]

Decaf: not sure what to tell you about original color of your Leinen vice especially since you are in Sweden so you might post your vice on the "tools of the old world" thread and maybe Monte or one of the guys on your side of the pond can help you. nice looking vice and i have one that is sort of a natural grey. your vice your color is what works too if you can't find original paint to match.

here's another Leinen that might have original paint if you like the color.

 

[barry2wood]

Here's the dawn that dad and I use everyday. Don't know the yr but surely someone does. She sure is one bulky ***** though.

Anyone know what the other one is/worth. Probably pretty hard with no marking though. Did a quick look but no luck for cast numbers.

Guy said he wanted to sell it but not sure what to offer him any thoughts on price/worth it.

Just to clarify the Dawn is NOT for sale!

 

[Outlawmws]

No clue what vises go for down uinder. sorry.

That is a black smith post vise, and depending on size/weight can run from a low of maybe $50 to several hundred for a nice big one here in the states, and even in the states there can be a lot of variance depending on the area of the states.

That is NOT a large one, based on that pack of smokes on top.. Pretty small actually.

Those can be factory made or some Smith's made their own.

 

[Outlawmws]

ps: the BS vise is missing it's original flat return spring. That coil spring on the screw is NOT original.

 

[drivesitfar]

Barry: i think i just bought a Bandsaw from that seller and he offered me that Blacksmith vise for $50 and i passed. it is missing the part Outlaw mentions, but it also looks like there is something missing on the screw. i didn't see the wrenches so maybe its a different vise because i would've bought the wrenches.

your offset Dawn is cool, but have no idea how old. is it a 4 inch jaw or ??

 

[barry2wood]

Outlawmw it's Friday so I'll give you a pass but not sure why you think I am a aussie just cause dad and I use one! I do appreciate your wealth of knowledge but I'll only ask you M-THUR from now on. Maybe member jabberwoki can clue us in to what tipped you to thinking iam down under.


drivesitfar if you were in the Federal Way on Pacific Hwy So when you bought said tool then you were only a 100yrds from our shop. Not at work so I'll have to ask the old man about jaw width. My columbian is 4 so off hand I would say the dawn is 6.

 

[Outlawmws]

Yeah, I finally caught on... I saw "Dawn" and Puyallup" and thought; yeah, sounds Aussie!

And yeah, long week... (You have no idea...)

 

[barry2wood]

Hell I'll be a aussie if it'd get this rain to go away and let the sun come out. Then maybe I can con the owner of this to let me pick you up and go for a road trip!

 

[Outlawmws]

We just got some rain starting today for the first time in a month or more...

Just in time to rain out the weekend yard sailing... Heck the last storms timed themselves to rain all week and leave the weekends dry!

And I'd be up for a road trip in a rig like that!

 

[drivesitfar]

Barry: i was much farther south so the blacksmith vise you are looking at has similar issues to the one i saw earlier today.

very cool car. yours or Dad's??

 

[zkling]

Here's the dawn that dad and I use everyday. Don't know the yr but surely someone does. She sure is one bulky ***** though.

Anyone know what the other one is/worth. Probably pretty hard with no marking though. Did a quick look but no luck for cast numbers.

Guy said he wanted to sell it but not sure what to offer him any thoughts on price/worth it.

Just to clarify the Dawn is NOT for sale!

Probably in the 3.5-4" range (don't smoke not sure on packet size). Check it over for cracks/welds or major bends and check that the jaws meet parallel along the top (can be fixed but a pain). A leaf spring can be made pretty easily the good part is that the mount and wedges are there. I'd look on the ground the spring my be around it just slips in the mount and can pretty easily come out. If you can get it cheap I'd grab it barring no major issues I mentioned above.

ps: the BS vise is missing it's original flat return spring. That coil spring on the screw is NOT original.

I don't think that is a coil spring, you are just seeing the threads, it is extended past its working point and the nut is not fully seated in the body.

 

[rodsnratfinks]

Anyone know what brand this is? After seeing this thread, and Exeter's post, I felt like it deserved some TLC. (Seriously, I never thought I would want to restore a vise)...

 

[alan camby]

Most of those are foreign. Maybe somewhere there will be a COO stamp?

Love that giant wire nut. Where can I get one?
I want a giant wire nut

 

[rodsnratfinks]

It's a coffee cup!

 

[rodsnratfinks]

I think you're right about the country of origin. Casting quality isn't super high. It does however do its job pretty well. I picked it up for $15 a while back.

 

[alan camby]

I still need one.
No luck on ebay.