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I've followed this thread for a few weeks after reading (ALL!) the previous 62 pages. I'm a "former" native Oregonian of 52 years, having moved to Satanville (i.e. So California) 4 years ago.:).

Given all the claro walnut you've used, there's a FABULOUS place south of Portland in Jefferson, OR called Northwest Timber. Lewis Judy is a former furniture maker of renown, now only selling figured local woods like walnut, curly maple, spalted maple, etc. You should make the trek to see the wood in person. Lewis is also a very good guy and has some great machines as well.

http://www.nwtimber.com/

Bio: http://nwtimber.net/history

I'm sure you could find some wood worthy of your beautiful home!
 

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Brilliant. Outstanding. Great photography and original and creative work with an attention to detail I appreciate.

Tonight was one of my infrequent sleepless nights and I just read your whole thread. Thank you for sharing your great work and congratulations on your new home and shop. I don’t know how you did it with kids on top of everything else. Respect.

We share many similar interests, (motorcycles, photography, woodworking, quality tools, good beer, scotch, hammocks, pencils, etc) and I just bought a house and my 20’ x 20’ garage looks similar to yours except with a BSA Gold Star, Triton, Honda CB400 and CB750. I feel your pain by having to move bikes around as I work on projects for the house and on my car. It is slowly coming together, the walls are insulated, it is heated and has better lighting and I restored a dozen mid century metal kitchen cabinets for storage. More progress in the spring and as time, money and energy allows.

What truly makes your projects so great is your passion for everything you do. No short cuts, no cheap materials or time savers and obviously you take pride in all that you do. I hope your children learn your work ethic and quality standards in whatever they endeavor to do.

You have inspired me to make some MF’ing pancakes and work on my garage this morning. Looking forward to more progress on your projects. Cheers!
 

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The chicken. For sure.

So, all through high school and then into college I took photos and got paid for it. I was also lucky to have two very influential photography teachers that told me I probably wouldn't succeed (too competitive they said) and to them I'm indebted as it became my solitary goal to prove them wrong. Ha!

Gregor

Do you think they knew that by attempting to stifle your pursuit they were only stoking the fire?
 
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You have inspired me to make some MF’ing pancakes and work on my garage this morning. Looking forward to more progress on your projects. Cheers!

Couldn't agree more.

Sakurama, thanks for the story and the great thread. :rocker:

Thanks, I enjoy documenting the process and I'm happy that it's appreciated and useful.

Do you think they knew that by attempting to stifle your pursuit they were only stoking the fire?

I don't think so. My high school teacher was convinced a big college was the kiss of death which isn't unrealistic coming from a high school class of 20 and going to a freshman college class of 5000 - ten times the size of our whole town.

My college professor just didn't like anyone with a commercial bent but he respected my work ethic just not my work. In the end I'm the only one that's done any fine art from that class anyway.

In the end I think it's better to have big unrealistic goals and strive and miss than it is to play it safe and succeed at a lower level. Something I don't need to tell one of the worlds preeminent titanium bicycle frame builders. :beer:

You should make the trek to see the wood in person. Lewis is also a very good guy and has some great machines as well.

http://www.nwtimber.com/

Bio: http://nwtimber.net/history

I'm sure you could find some wood worthy of your beautiful home!

Nice tip. I love visiting lumberyards. Someday I'll have free time to devote to non essential projects.

Gregor
 

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I’ve read this thread end to end three times. I’m not sure whether to be proud or ashamed of that accomplishment. Either way, I don’t think I’ve wasted a minute. Thanks for taking the time to document your work — I know I’m not the only one who’s found it to be incredibly inspiring.

if you manage to find some downtime take an hour or two and re-read your thread from the beginning. It’s truly remarkable what you’ve achieved, and I bet that can be lost in the day-to-day grind.

Now that I’m done gushing, I do have a question. I really like your design for the cantilevered torsion box benches:

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I’m curious how you joined the torsion box to the base. I'm new to woodworking (though I do have a fancy new festool saw thanks to this thread and a few other festool goodies on order), and I would have thought you would need some bracing to minimize deflection, but I don’t see it.

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I’ve read this thread end to end three times. I’m not sure whether to be proud or ashamed of that accomplishment. Either way, I don’t think I’ve wasted a minute. Thanks for taking the time to document your work — I know I’m not the only one who’s found it to be incredibly inspiring.


I’m curious how you joined the torsion box to the base. I'm new to woodworking (though I do have a fancy new festool saw thanks to this thread and a few other festool goodies on order), and I would have thought you would need some bracing to minimize deflection, but I don’t see it.

-Grif

Hi Grif,

First off thanks. I can honestly say that over the last few years one of the most consistent sources of support I've gotten has been from this forum. It's a wonderful source of inspiration and I'm glad that I'm able to give back.

I actually have gone back and read through and it's almost like looking at a younger self who has no idea what's in store. Just like falling in love and all the drama that often accompanies that if you knew the work that you'd have to do you might not tackle the project. It's one of the great gifts of completely unrealistic optimism!

But before I get distracted with the update I actually took a shot for you of the torsion box from underneath.

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You can see the screw head holding the top onto the lower box just over the Festool extension rail at the top - there's like 5 of them. That screw goes into the extra boxing that I put into the back of the box. Here's a look at the box before I sandwiched the parts.

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And as it was going together. I look at it now and think how ridiculously over built it is. Which is kinda cool.

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I'm sort of as surprised as you that the torsion box is held with just those screws through the lower box. That lower box is pretty burly and is screwed multiple times into the studs behind the wall with the same very long cabinet anchoring screws.

But I don't sit on it although my kids have and it's not sagged or flexed at all and it surprises me. I'm also surprised by my garage cabinets because there's a stupid amount of weight in them and yet they haven't come crashing off the wall yet. One of the cabinets has just screw and fasteners and there must be 200lbs in that one alone. French cleats are some pretty bad *** things.

Anyway,

As Christmas came I was trying to make my own drawer pulls and I sort of took a step back, as it was proving to be tricky to make perfect, and I decided to just take a break on the house for the holidays. I needed to reward myself with some time in the shop that was for fun and not for the house. It was a really great break. In addition to that my Ducati finally showed up and I felt that she needed a much cleaner home.

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So I cleaned the garage and immediately set about making a few minor changes to the bike. Of course I start another build thread because I'm a glutton but this is minor surgery.

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I take time off in the shop by learning something new. I've wanted to learn to weld aluminum for years and finally I decided that I'd learn so I could make a small underseat storage tray for the Ducati. A week later and I'm getting the hang of it.

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And then I welded up a new exhaust to raise the pipes and she's done for now. I'm not messing with her any more than that - for now. Later on I'll do some more substantial mods but the point of this bike, aside from having a Ducati in the garage again after my last one was stolen, is to have some pretty and reliable wheels for the summer.

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Now she's dead **** and I take a moment every time I walk into the garage to admire not just the Duc but the rest of my eclectic collection and recognize how lucky I am to have achieved a dream with this garage. There's still tons more to do but I'm working in it and building bikes and I couldn't be happier.

Gregor
 

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That's one sweet looking SS900. So clean you could eat your dinner of it. Reminds me I need to start cleaning our bikes.
 
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Yeah, I've found its essential to have at least one bike that is a clean and finished bike. That way on any warm and sunny day you can be reminded of why you spend all that time working on them.

Gregor
 

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Luckily I don't have to work on mine a lot, it's far from a project. It's getting serviced at the dealers next month (check-up, fresh oil, etc.) and while it's there it's getting some minor mods. Hopefully I can have it cleaned beforehand so when the warmer and sunnier days arrive, I can just go out and ride.

In the meantime, it'll be just me, some cloths, a can of WD40 and the bikes.

Erik
 

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That;

"but I'm working in it and building bikes and I couldn't be happier"....
 
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Thanks Locul. I know you understand the feeling.

It's funny but sometimes if I have an update that isn't about the house I feel almost guilty. Like working on or in the garage is "cheating" since the house isn't finished. I've been spending a lot of time working on the Revit project which is going to wrap up next week so we're in a frenzy with last minute ordering and details.

And since I haven't decided what to do about the cabinets yet I've just been taking time to chip away at small projects in the garage that I can finish in an afternoon. It gives me a sense of satisfaction to impart a bit of organization to something, anything, so I pick small battles and ones I will enjoy.

Since the Ducati got me started on welding aluminum I've taken a "when you have a hammer everything is a nail" mentality and I've been looking for projects that I can do in aluminum.

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One of those is a better way to organize my tool holders on the lathe. My friend Scott, who's helping on the Revit build (see his beautifully organized shop here) is a freak for a clean and organized shop and he's my hero and inspiration. He made a lathe tool holder I've always liked so this is my tribute.

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So I had some 1" square aluminum stock and decided to make a small jig (that triangle shaped block with lips) to hold blocks that I cut 30° wedges out of to hold the dovetail AXA toolholders. Much nicer than my current method of a rail in the back of the lathe that isn't in reach and they fall off of all the time.

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I'm starting to get the hang of aluminum welding. It's very tricky as the sweet spot is very small but once you get it it's very satisfying. This is just an aluminum angle welded into a frame.

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And the final tool holder which still needs a few wrenches hung but keeps all the lathe tools in one place. Any time I'm working on bikes and replace bearings or parts with bearings I remove them and put them into a bin with the stock. Same with springs. Then, with a project like this, I can pull out an old bearing and use it for something unimportant like putting this holder on a pivot so it spins.

The other nice thing about having my dream shop right next door is that sometimes, after the kids are asleep and J has work to do, I can just walk through two doors and sit down and practice running beads for an hour. In NYC I would have to drive 1-2 hours round trip to do that plus pay tolls. Talk about a disincentive.

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So I watch some Youtube videos in bed and then see something new and I can go downstairs and do some tig welding in my pajamas. Nice!

Now that I've enjoyed some quality shop time I'm going to come up with a project to knock out on the house and then do that. Small steps.

Gregor
 
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Will you have a bike at The One Show this year?

This is just a shout out for my friend Sean. My friend Scott was mentioning to me that he was considering coming out to Portland for the Handmade bicycle show and I mentioned that I'd have to introduce him to Sean as they'd appreciate each others maniacal attention to detail.

Anyway, in searching for a link of Sean's stuff to send to Scott I came across his Flikr page and lost about an hour drooling over the welds, the jigs and the general attention to detail that is hard to find.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/vertigocycles/

Even if you're not into bicycles look at that page and appreciate the incredible talent and skill he has. It's remarkable and worth the time.

If that doesn't make you want a handmade titanium bicycle I don't know what will. Nice work Sean!

Gregor
 
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Its been a long time since I last looked in on this thread-waaay to long(October 2013 to be exact). Progress has been amazing and you deserve that beer!

I share can understand more than most the need to preserve sanity when undertaking a renovation to the levels you have. I spent a year just trying to make our home habitable so we could move in. Once we did it was another two years of every weekend and every vacation day of doing stuff on the house.
I've completely lost my mojo for it and there is still so much that remains to be done. I admire your dedication and perseverance to get where you have.:beer:
 

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This is just a shout out for my friend Sean. My friend Scott was mentioning to me that he was considering coming out to Portland for the Handmade bicycle show and I mentioned that I'd have to introduce him to Sean as they'd appreciate each others maniacal attention to detail.

Anyway, in searching for a link of Sean's stuff to send to Scott I came across his Flikr page and lost about an hour drooling over the welds, the jigs and the general attention to detail that is hard to find.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/vertigocycles/

Even if you're not into bicycles look at that page and appreciate the incredible talent and skill he has. It's remarkable and worth the time.

If that doesn't make you want a handmade titanium bicycle I don't know what will. Nice work Sean!

Gregor

wow, I missed this before. Thanks for the props. I hope to one day have the breadth of talent you have acquired for so many things.

Let me know when Scott is in town. We'll go for a ride, fire up the BBQ and he can check out the goodies in my shop. With enough notice I may even get it cleaned up.
 

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Nice work on the tool holders Gregor (and the house and the bike and the...). I am in the middle of just about every restoration/repair known to man right now (mid-century house, garage, Land Cruiser....) while running a corporate business and helping with my wife's awesome local business. So I snapped this weekend and started listing some of my tools on Craigslist including my old milling machine because I'm tripping over everything (even thou I am a very organized guy). I cleaned up the machine, laid out all of my cutting tools, took the photos and proceeded to list....than I looked at my photos and thought "wtf am I doing, this is insane, I should just organize my tools!

As usual, your timing is impecable....like that time I bought the Festool saw...haha.

Woodbineman

keep it up. Looking forward to the bike build....Kolb Machine looks awesome
 
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...I cleaned up the machine, laid out all of my cutting tools, took the photos and proceeded to list....than I looked at my photos and thought "wtf am I doing, this is insane, I should just organize my tools!

As usual, your timing is impecable....like that time I bought the Festool saw...haha.

Woodbineman

I know the feeling but don't sell the mill! Machine tools are hard to come by out here. Sometimes you feel scattered with so many projects but you gotta count the small victories.

Gregor
 

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You are right, selling a mill is silly even if it is old and I don't use it as much as I should. I've started to actually rent more specialized tools (especially for home renos) as there is an awesome family run rental place near my house that I like to go to. I'm also lucky to have a few good friends who share tools between each other...I recently split an engine lift with a guy on the one condition that he keep it at his place :)
 

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I'm building a house in Long Beach. 4 car garage. I think I'll leave the cabinet making to the experts though!
 
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It's been a while since I made an update. The Revit bike kicked my ***. The last week before the shoot was a whirlwind of work and we put in a series of 20 hour days to get the bike finished enough that I could then switch hats and photograph it.

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Anyway, when I got back to Portland I slept. For like a week. Seriously, as you get older pulling those sort of hours just kills you. As I was pretty wiped out I didn't really feel like dealing with the house and I just wanted to relax by working on something mindless.

That of course meant something in the garage and since space was becoming more and more of an issue I thought I'd try to kill a couple of birds with one project and that would be making a smaller stand for the notcher that was taking up so much damn floor space.

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I realized that I don't really have a "before" photo of the thing save for that. Mostly because I didn't plan too much - I just thought that I had a bunch of steel that was taking up space and rusting outside, the notcher was too big on it's table and I felt like welding. A perfect storm of distraction!

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The problem was that the base was just too wide and the handle was just too long. It was also low. I figured that I could consolidate by making a table that was the same height as my Diacro shear and brake and could fit between them.

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At first I thought I'd just cut the one it came on down but I quickly realized that 1/2" was the outside limit of my plasma cutter and it was a mess. I also realized that plasma is a filthy, filthy process that should be done as far outside as you're extension cord can reach. Which wasn't far so I needed a longer extension cord.

One of the neat things I learned a while back is that 220v is composed of two 110v legs and a neutral and that you can split off 110v by using only one of the legs. So I decided to make an extension cord that was both 220 and 110.

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Since there's no such outlet cover I made one on the lathe from a stock switch/outlet cover.

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I also made my own stress relief/compression fitting for the giant 14ga cord.

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And there you have it. Now one extension cord can run my welder on 220 and my water cooler for the torch on 110. Or the plasma on 220 and a grinder on 110. It's a small thing but it works great and simplifies the clutter.

Okay, back to the notcher.

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So I started cutting and welding steel and relaxing. It was nice. This is why I have a shop.

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So when I finished welding it I realized I'd have to paint it and while I was testing the fit I thought to myself, "Self, you might as well paint the notcher too..."

You can see where this is going right?

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So I took the whole thing apart and decided if I was going to paint it I better get the rust off. This is what I use for rust in the shop: phosphoric acid. It's cheap, works great and leaves things with a black finish that seems to inhibit further rust. Above I used a gallon in a tray for the table.

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The bubbles means it's working and I like the patterns they make. Pretty!

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I also keep a 5 gallon bucket with about 3 gallons of the stuff in it and a smaller bucket inside that with holes cut in as my basket. This allows me to put a whole mess of parts, bolts, nuts and whatever in and leave them overnight.

In an effort to not go over the top in this project (like that would ever happen) I decided to brush the paint on. One because it's easier and two because the paint lays on thicker and it ends up looking more like the way machine tools are painted anyway and covers up small scratches and stuff.

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It turned out great and has created a place for medium sized aluminum stock which was leaning in a corner near the compressor. I also lopped off about a foot of the crazy long handle and have left space at the back for another tool down the road.

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I love when people paint tools bright colors but for me machine tools are gray. It's just a tradition that I like. To keep things a little sassy I like to add red details for "safety" but also for contrast. Some day I'll build a new welding table and it will be red.

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The final detail was to have the blades ground by Oregon Carbide Saw and it now cuts like butter and looks good doing it! Small project accomplished!

Once that was done I felt like a new man with the energy of a professional wrestler (the dramatic kind) and was ready to tackle the house again.

Next update - closets!

Gregor
 
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And one more very cool thing.

I member here runs the web site Build Threads and asked to feature me on his site. Very cool and a nice bit of recognition. Of course my wife puts it up on her Facebook page and says, "This might be why our house is taking so long..." Hmm, I've been outed.
:dunno:

If you haven't see his site check it out.

Thanks Anth!

Gregor
 

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And one more very cool thing.

I member here runs the web site Build Threads and asked to feature me on his site. Very cool and a nice bit of recognition. Of course my wife puts it up on her Facebook page and says, "This might be why our house is taking so long..." Hmm, I've been outed.
:dunno:

If you haven't see his site check it out.

Thanks Anth!

Gregor

Not sure whether I should say "you're welcome" or "sorry" :lol_hitti
 

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Always great to see your updates. I'm chomping at the bit to work on my garage, but it's too cold to paint and I've already cleaned and organized as much as I can for now.
 

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Gregor.

You are doing great work and gave me extra push to organize my garage ( detached surrounded by snow --> ice ) and woodwork shop in basement of house.
I need to finish raspberry pi + alamode + grbl Mini CNC router project before ice melt.

Yukio
 
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That's nice and all but we're still waiting on better pics of the end result of the revit bike ;).

Great work, as always! I haven't seen the ADV Revit thread update though...

The truth of the matter is that we just didn't finish the bike. We got it complete enough to shoot photos for the new catalog and their advertising but those shots are of a bike that was completed with photoshop. I'll post them when they're public.

As soon as we finished shooting it Scott took the tank and seat back upstate to finish and Chris started finishing the last of the CNC parts that weren't completed. There's still final welding to do on the exhaust and some other things to finish. There's a video shoot scheduled for the end of the month so it has to be finished then. In the mean time I fed Revit an update for their blog and I'm going to do one for the ADV thread either later today or tomorrow. There won't be any "final" photos since it's not final just yet.

How do you like those Pilot Road 4's?

So far so good. After dropping the Ducati on a cold, wet corner on my way to the DMV (it had some rock hard old track take offs on it - about as grippy as a bowling ball) I looked for a tire with great temp flexibility and good wet grip. These tires are just gummy and sticky even when it's 40°F out which is pretty amazing. Hopefully they'll be as good in the warmer months but they stick like glue right now.

Gregor
 

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The truth of the matter is that we just didn't finish the bike. We got it complete enough to shoot photos for the new catalog and their advertising but those shots are of a bike that was completed with photoshop. I'll post them when they're public.

As soon as we finished shooting it Scott took the tank and seat back upstate to finish and Chris started finishing the last of the CNC parts that weren't completed. There's still final welding to do on the exhaust and some other things to finish. There's a video shoot scheduled for the end of the month so it has to be finished then. In the mean time I fed Revit an update for their blog and I'm going to do one for the ADV thread either later today or tomorrow. There won't be any "final" photos since it's not final just yet.

Gregor

It's all good, honestly. Just a little friendly ribbing. I'm excited to see the finished product you and all the other talented folk produced.
 
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