Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT Woody's Works Garage

[Denwood]

Drive, last two days our lows have been -28C, and -38C factoring in wind chill. Simply stupidly cold.

I hear you on the "rest" issue. Seems I'm pretty terrible at it. With temps so cold, we've been a bit cooped up. The shop is my evening cathartic release. Ha.

I've had zero issues with the slatwall breaking out. Knowing that MDF breaks out (thanks YouTube) with 30lbs load localized at 12" out, I've just done basic lever math and stayed under those limits.

The business building project really should get its own thread. We have nearly a year's worth of video starting at architects meetings, and going right up to completion. Precious few photographs..but hours of video. If the temps don't drop below 5C, we don't need heat at all. It does justify a thread/blog for sure.

 

[Modern Jess]

I really liked that finish so wondered if a few hours with a home depot floor polisher and Diamabrush would work. It's much smaller and lighter than the floor grinder my neighbor used.It works, but would be more accurate to describe the result as "aggressive sanding" rather than deep cut/grinding.

Nice work on the "grinding"! Didn't know they rented those.

 

[Denwood]

What do guys think of this? Porcelain tile, COF of .6 wet, rated for commercial outdoor. I'll definitely seal the floor with a silicate sealer, and have definitely decided on white as I love how bright it is. So I'm leaning now to white epoxy, or white tile. The siliconate sealer will just keep oil stains etc at bay for now.

It's an interesting wood look porcelain tile with the right numbers...so might look kind of cool in here:

 

[drivesitfar]

Woody: the picture of the tile doesn't blow up and hard to see how the seams look, but if you like it that's good enough for my positive vote. do you have a link for the tile that might get us and you more information?

Dang your shop has come a long way in a short amount of time. looking good sir.

 

[Denwood]

Sorry..this is the tile: http://m.homedepot.com/p/MARAZZI-Mo...obileweb_pip_rr-3-_-203600158-_-203600149-_-N

 

[Bears Fan]

Just went threw the entire thread, Great work and amazing transformation

 

[madoc1]

looking great! one of the better ones.

jim

 

[Denwood]

Thanks Mr. Bear It has come a long way, but truthfully not really planned. If I'd never searched "scissor truss garage" I likely never would have found this forum as I tried to work out a lift scenario. Now I'm musing over porcelain tile choices..sheesh.

Jim, I appreciate your comment

 

[Cobra96]

Thanks Chuck. If you're someplace warm, just send a plane ticket . Just wish I had done the compressor move a long time ago.

I have a craftsman oiless compressor that makes a bunch of racket that I want to put in my basement and run A line to hook up in the garage with wet and dry air . Is that just standard plumbing pipe?

 

[Denwood]

Cobra, at my previous business location we ran an air compressor line from the basement to the 2nd floor using two 75', 3/8" air compressor hoses. That worked but we only used air in that case for cleaning optics.

Because I wanted to have better air volume from my dual compressor setup, I purchased 1/2" high pressure line from the local hydraulics outfit, ran the line through the two walls, then terminated with push on/clamped Parker couplers at each end. Purchased this way, the line from shed into garage is only 15' long. It also keeps your hole size smaller as the ends are added on after the hose is in place.

 

[madoc1]

also great info!

jim

 

[Denwood]

Thanks Jim.

The freshly ground slab needs sealing. It's dipping to -30C nightly, making tile or epoxy very difficult. The bright white floor I'm seeking will be achieved with several coats of concrete stain-sealer. My pal Dean at Kam Industrial (local) suggested Increte stain-sealer which will give me a floor that is bright, resistant to brake fluid, gasoline, oil, salt etc, but a penetrating finish that won't be affected by large temperature swings above and below freezing.

http://www.increte.com/professional-products/stains-and-dyes/concrete-stain-sealer/

 

[Cobra96]

Cobra, at my previous business location we ran an air compressor line from the basement to the 2nd floor using two 75', 3/8" air compressor hoses. That worked but we only used air in that case for cleaning optics.

Because I wanted to have better air volume from my dual compressor setup, I purchased 1/2" high pressure line from the local hydraulics outfit, ran the line through the two walls, then terminated with push on/clamped Parker couplers at each end. Purchased this way, the line from shed into garage is only 15' long. It also keeps your hole size smaller as the ends are added on after the hose is in place.

Nice set up! I know they recommend 1/2 line to run the impact. I think I'm running 50' of 3/8 hose currently. Sometimes the impact gets a little sluggish. 30 gallon compressor. I use it to wrench my own vehicles and oil up the tools each time I use them but that's getting old. What size is the connection that you have at the compressor?
Thanks again for all the info!

 

[Denwood]

Cobra, the connections in the shed are 1/2" from the 60 gallon and 3/8 (to a 1/2" T) from the 20 gallon. Both compressor connections come to a simple 1/2" brass T to connect them to the main feed out.

 

[Denwood]

The shop is about 50ft from the house and wifi, even using a repeater is not good. My main use for wifi in the shop really is streaming Spotify (at a higher quality bitrate) to the 5.1 channel amp. I figured I'd try using a powerline adapter to run network over the shop's power feed from the house panel. This dlink unit also provides wireless N wifi at the endpoint powerline adapter. It works quite well after doing two things:

1. Installed a receptacle right next to the panel in the house feeding the garage. This provides the shortest powerline path to the garage. My router is also in the same space so it was very easy to plug the powerline adapter into my network switch. We have two meters, therefore two panels in our house left from it's previous life with a basement apartment.

2. Tested the shop powerline transceiver on receptacles run from each side of the panel. One side was definitely faster than the other. This makes sense when you consider that one phase will be a cleaner/shorter path depending on the house/garage wiring.

This also fixes the dead area at the back of our lot so the kids can stream their tunes whilst hanging in their play area. Speed from the shop (internet over wifi) is just a bit slower than the same test in the house.

 

[BBChevro]

I've just finished reading your entire thread Dennis - I am totally amazed at the transformation and the time frame that you've done it all in (don't you have a "day job" ).

Great work!

 

[bj383ss]

Thanks for the info on the wireless. I will need to do this at some point.

 

[Denwood]

Mark, thanks The journal is a nice opportunity to both share a bit and reflect on progress.

BJ, there are powerline adapters that have tested better in reviews..and the tech is about to get a speed boost. Waiting a bit means more performance for less:

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-powerline-networking-kit/

The Zyxel kit was their fastest tested, using the ground terminal for signal. If max performance is a goal, the Zyxel combined with an added wifi access point would likely be faster than the Dlink. In my case, Spotify streaming at their 320kbps "extreme" music quality rate is good enough for me. In this case I'm seeing 5000 to 7200kbps in the speed tests so could technically stream another 18 channels simultaneously.

 

[Denwood]

I was doing preparation work for my garage floor seal project today, with heat on higher than usual in the shop, set to 22C. When nearing the roll up door, I noticed a fair bit of radiant heat and wondered how the reflective insulation on the door could be so efficient. Turns out the radiant heat was coming from somewhere else.

We're a pretty cold climate here, so I ordered the roll up door from smartgarage.ca in black (with self adhesive foam/reflective insulation kit) thinking that maybe I'd see some benefit on cool days from solar gain. The door faces south-east, so for part of the day it sees direct sunlight. I was so impressed with what I observed, I had to pull out the old FLIR ONE and take a few images.

Outside temps right now are -15C, or 5F!

We're right on the 49th parallel:

Temps outside when these images were taken:

Sun is not so high in the sky here at this time of year:

This gives a good idea of sun angle and azimuth:

FLIR ONE from inside:

FLIR ONE from inside:

FLIR ONE from outside. Note that at 5F ambient, the door surface is 92.8F!

FLIR ONE from outside. Wall temp is at 38.6 while door is 92.8F.

 

[drivesitfar]

Woody: just one of the reasons i keep checking on your thread. i always learn something because you have so much wisdom to share.

BTW did you find any other options other than the inexpensive HD tile flooring that sort of looks like whitewashed wood?

i'm sure happy to see and watch you rest and not do any work on your garage.

 

[Denwood]

Ha. Yes a lot of resting.

Drive, for now I'm just sealing the floor with Increte stain-sealer. This is a penetrating sealer with white pigment which will protect the slab from salt, and give it the bright white finish I'm looking for. It's also resistant to oil, brake fliuid, trans fluid etc. I'm in the midst of it now. It's not possible to empty the garage right now, so I'm sealing in two steps..perimeter first, than the center area. With everything on wheels it's pretty easy.

 

[bj383ss]

Can't wait to see your floor!

 

[Denwood]

B, if the quality of the floor is correlated to the strength of the VOC fumes, it should be an amazing floor. I've been wearing my dual charcoal respirator deal quite a lot today.

 

[Modern Jess]

That's awesome! That said, it's not completely unexpected, given the direction of the door.

Building on that idea, and if you really want to get crazy with the cheese wiz, have you ever thought about building a solar air heater? They're not very complex, and can generally be put together from recycled aluminum cans and a bit of material from the big box store.

 

[Denwood]

Jess, I guess what I found surprising is the temp differential of 87F, on a 5F ambient day with wind chill values even lower. I have looked at several passive radiant designs and certainly the door temps today certainly point in that direction. Evacuated tube heaters are much more efficient though so if I was doing a radiant storage tank, that's the direction I would go.

On Monday I'm going to contact Smartgarage and see if they have any cutoff material in black like my door. It would be simple to build a radiant wall from this. There is one commercial building close to us that has 5 radiant air heaters (commercially built) mounted on their exterior. I met with the manager who unfortunately had very little in terms of real metrics. He needs a visit from Modern Jess

 

[Modern Jess]

I met with the manager who unfortunately had very little in terms of real metrics. He needs a visit from Modern Jess

Heh. Got to have metrics or you're just ******* in the wind.

 

[1/2 Cup]

I don't know how you guys cope with the temperatures where you are. Its totally foreign to us out here in Australia. At worst - 4 C with today in the mid 90 F.
Amazing and intriguing to us I can assure you.

Regards

 

[bonecrrusher]

Woody - had no idea you where in/near Thunder Bay.

Back when I was in high school - I spent 2 weeks canoeing through the Quetico Provincial Park - the outfitters we booked through where based out of Atikokan.

Very beautiful area!

 

[Denwood]

1/2, yes it's great that we're seeing posts from all over the world here so we can appreciate the challenges. We're setting a new record this month for average cold temperatures. Daytime high averages should be -4C at this time of year. Right now, we're at -30, with -40C windchill. Climate change is creating very strange weather patterns everywhere. The upside of living here is no poisonous anything (just a lot of mosquitos in spring!), no earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, or drought. We're also on the largest freshwater lake (by volume) in the world. So at least for now, no fresh water challenges. Thunder Bay is also fairly remote so it's relatively quiet and laid back.

That said, damn it's cold.

Bone, I've travelled a fair bit globally, and I'd agree that this area is pretty spectacular. We spend pretty much every weekend in the summer in an area very similar to Quetico. That said, please refer to the line above. Ha.

Hey, so between coats, (and completely unrelated), I managed to shoot and edit a quick vid of my daughter riding. I had done a time-lapse in the shop with my youngest, so to keep the karmic balance, had to do one for the eldest. It is shot, edited and uploaded it in 4K resolution so if you have a fast web connection, you can choose "2160p 4Kfile" from the Youtube quality settings. It's shot all on a GoPro Hero4 in 4K. Pretty impressive where imaging tech has taken us.

 

[Modern Jess]

I don't know how you guys cope with the temperatures where you are. Its totally foreign to us out here in Australia. At worst - 4 C with today in the mid 90 F.
Amazing and intriguing to us I can assure you.

I can't cope with it either. I lived in Ohio and Wisconsin and had my fill of cold.

Now I live in California. It's about 55°F (12.8°C) here right now at 9:20 in the morning. Should be in the sixties (F) this afternoon. Oh, and it's February.

That said, we're in the middle of a drought and it will **** this summer.

 

[Denwood]

The floor in white is amazing. One more coat to go. It's going slow between coats as ambient temps are agan dippng to -30C tonight and slab is not insulated. Here's a sneak peek.

 

[Modern Jess]

The floor in white is amazing.

Wow, you're not kidding!

 

[sunsation288]

Wow , serious stuff here !!!!, thanks for sharing picture , you know we love it

 

[BBChevro]

The floor looks good Dennis.

 

[Denwood]

Thanks Sun. Here's a few more pics

Mark, Jess, three coats later...this is the cleanest the shop will likely ever be!

 

[BBChevro]

To say "it's a transformation" would be like saying "Canada can get a bit chilly in the winter".

That's absolutely amazing Dennis, it's hard to believe that it's the same building.

 

[Modern Jess]

Transformation is right. Wow, really impressed. You're pulling our collective legs, right? This is a different building altogether -- a set you built at your company to show off your photo-related products, right?

Right!?!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Transformation at it best, all kudos well deserved..

Regards

 

[dubber]

Excellent results. It shines!

 

[Denwood]

Mark, functionally it sure feels like a new building! Speaking of chilly in Canada the temps rose to a balmy -11C. Feels like summer out there. Ha.

Jess, my wife is pretty much insisting that the next "set build" happens in her kitchen. Thanks for your support

1/2, now it needs some solar panels!

Dubber, I suspect the shine will be short lived. I have 5 liters of DSG fluid, oil, a handful of filters, Ross-Tech cable and laptop suggesting my Audi is about to christen the shop. It's a bit of a mechanical landmark for me as I've never had to interface a computer to a car yet.