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Tyberius

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Any body have info on this? Is this new, old or even the Sears(Craftsman) that we know? And for $10 do i buy it even if i don't need it?

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By the look of the logo, I'd say 80s or 90s. I have a sears from the early 80s I bought off of craiglist with a bunch of other stuff.

Underside should have the COO. Mine was stamped with the letters all different directions but after a few days I saw that it said china
 

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Here we go again, round two. Grab some pop corn and watch the madness at the end of this auction.

Any bets on what the final silly price will be?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Tucker-Vise-by-Veritas-Emmert-style-patternmaker-039-s-vise-NEW-in-Box-/231491509460?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

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Think I'm going to jump on and ride the tucker up to about $1750.00, and then hop off, pop some popcorn and watch the rest of the show.---Don't need or want it, just want to go for a ride.:bounce:
 

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CW: are you driving all those vises home inside a tank? those are just the ones you picked up today. i can't see all of them so of course we'll need more pictures, but i'm guessing your gas milage wasn't too good on the way home.

they all look to be in pretty decent shape too. :thumbup:
 

GETRIDAONE

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I did that earlier in the week, the vise arrived in the mail today. I just wanted to bid and run the price up a little but I bid to much and "You Won"
It wasn't $1750.00 only about $30.00 bucks.
 

Outlawmws

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This German made Leinen vise is for sale. Guy wants $55. I can't find much information about Leinen. Anybody have any information about how old and how good this is? Good Price? Thanks!

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Lienen is a good solid European vise maker, but that looks pretty small since it's a clamp-on...
 

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Some slightly better pictures of the haul, will do some proper ones over the next week or so. Apologies for the quality but it's 4am and fairly dark out.

10 wood vices, paramo,rededa,record ...
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Fortis swivel jaw and T Halls/C Parker lever vise
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Samsonia 38A and Fortis no 12 old style
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Record Leader 16, Fortis 12 new style, Record 34, Swindens 4", Noveto 110, Woden 179 and a sprung Peddinghaus Matador 115mm in the back row and a manual vice lift.
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Record 34 sitting on a Record 48, couldn't find a builders mug for size reference for Fretters so I thought a builders wheel barrow was the next best thing :)
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Record Leader 16 all steel fabricated vice.
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Close up of the Peddinghaus Matador
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That looks like the kind of traveling that Joe.s does. :lol:

Lol, he's my hero ;)

I left home at 5pm and was back by 2am thanks to traffic,road works, and hour and a half of chin wagging. Was only a 320 mile round trip though and I might be visiting again next month! Currently I can't get in the workshop without walking on vices :)
 

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I picked up this Sambre et Meuse last weekend at the scrap yard for 20¢ a pound. It caught my eye and I was thinking it might be a German made Ridgid or at least another high end brand so I threw it in my pickup. It was very gunked up and frozen closed with hardened grease and dirt. There wasn't much rust at all, making it an easy refurb. Turns out it is a well regarded, older French brand made from cast steel. The jaws are 4" wide, it opens to 5.5" and the throat depth is 4". Because of the ample clearance below the jaws, it's now my go-to vise for bending small pieces of metal.
 

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Lol, he's my hero ;)

I left home at 5pm and was back by 2am thanks to traffic,road works, and hour and a half of chin wagging. Was only a 320 mile round trip though and I might be visiting again next month! Currently I can't get in the workshop without walking on vices :)

320 miles in a land rover, braver man than me, the 48 is absolutely massive :eyecrazy:
I could always relieve you of a decent wood vice if your going to sell some on.
 

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I picked up this Sambre et Meuse last weekend at the scrap yard for 20¢ a pound. It caught my eye and I was thinking it might be a German made Ridgid or at least another high end brand so I threw it in my pickup. It was very gunked up and frozen closed with hardened grease and dirt. There wasn't much rust at all, making it an easy refurb. Turns out it is a well regarded, older French brand made from cast steel. The jaws are 4" wide, it opens to 5.5" and the throat depth is 4". Because of the ample clearance below the jaws, it's now my go-to vise for bending small pieces of metal.

Nicely done. :) An unusual one.
 

CwazyWabbit

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I'll second both those statements. :D

That's one large vice CW.
Apart from your mechanical steed there's not many 'family vehicles' that would have fitted that load of vices in and still driven the same ..... The stop start traffic was a ****** with the heavy clutch though on the way there.

I'll admit to the 48 being both large and heavy!
 

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Apart from your mechanical steed there's not many 'family vehicles' that would have fitted that load of vices in and still driven the same .....

Aye, there's not a vast amount of vehicles which are good all-rounders. That's why I overlook the shockingly bad fuel economy on mine. :D She's just so damn useful and cute, but a 2 ton aerodynamic brick is never going to be economical. :D


The stop start traffic was a ****** with the heavy clutch though on the way there.

Must admit, as gay as I used to think auto's were, (probably not a smart thing to say on an American site, :D but seeing as we all grew up with manuals, which we all know is a real blokes gearbox of choice.... :D), I love the auto box on the Surf in situations like that.


I'll admit to the 48 being both large and heavy!

It looks it. :D
 
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Apart from your mechanical steed there's not many 'family vehicles' that would have fitted that load of vices in and still driven the same ..... The stop start traffic was a ****** with the heavy clutch though on the way there.

I'll admit to the 48 being both large and heavy!

There is a servo assist kit available now to make the clutch much more pleasant, I have a VW transporter for work so my 90 only gets used for fun, so long journeys would be done in that and you can get alot more in it.
 

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CW: well you were saying for a while now that you were going to pick up a vise or two, but as said i think you were grabbing all the cool vises in England. they all look in reasonably good shape too. I've seen that many vises in one place before other than mine and it took me almost a year to negotiate deals and pay for them. did you have to rob a bank before you left home to not only pay for the vises, but fill up the gas tank a couple times? isn't gas over on your side of the pond about $6 (3 or 4 pounds) per gallon?

Joe: those vises are cool as you already know because you have a great eye. I like that table work bench maybe better and i spied a nice brake or stop on the end to keep it from rolling if you are going to keep it on wheels.
 

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I picked up this Sambre et Meuse last weekend at the scrap yard for 20¢ a pound. It caught my eye and I was thinking it might be a German made Ridgid or at least another high end brand so I threw it in my pickup. It was very gunked up and frozen closed with hardened grease and dirt. There wasn't much rust at all, making it an easy refurb. Turns out it is a well regarded, older French brand made from cast steel. The jaws are 4" wide, it opens to 5.5" and the throat depth is 4". Because of the ample clearance below the jaws, it's now my go-to vise for bending small pieces of metal.

Looks like a nice vise!
 

CwazyWabbit

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DIF Well apparently I'd missed out on a couple of big Reeds and a Record 7" chipping vice that he sold last year.... so he did once have enough vices to alter the rotation of the planet! Oh and I will be heading back for more at some point in the future .... probably when the weather is slightly better and I chuck some 80p a litre veg oil in the tank as opposed to the 110 a litre cheap diesel at the moment.

Fretters You are right about the old Parkinsons wood working vice and you are also right about the paint job on the swindens! Actually a few of the vices have pretty poor paint jobs, and a few look like they are due a few days in the electrolytic health spa ;)

Dutch I've seen the clutch booster kit and a mate of mine has one on his 110 so I might go for a play in his and see how I like it.
 

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CW
That Record Leader looks interesting as well, I didn't know they did a fabricated vice and it looks like it opens a long way for its jaw width.
 

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The vises have been pretty dry around here but I found myself a nice little gem this morning


Wilton No.202 with factory clamp base, raised replaceable anvil and most of the factory sticker intact

It set me back a whopping 5.00:evil:

Date on the key way reads 6-46
 

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The vises have been pretty dry around here but I found myself a nice little gem this morning


Wilton No.202 with factory clamp base, raised replaceable anvil and most of the factory sticker intact

It set me back a whopping 5.00:evil:

Date on the key way reads 6-46

Wanna triple your money? :evil:
 

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Aye, there's not a vast amount of vehicles which are good all-rounders. That's why I overlook the shockingly bad fuel economy on mine. :D She's just so damn useful and cute, but a 2 ton aerodynamic brick is never going to be economical. :D

Now you understand why we Yanks developed a truck and muscle car culture. Those spiffy little sardine tins you all drive over there are no good for hauling our oversized butts around the corner to the local fast-food joint. :lol_hitti
 

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The vises have been pretty dry around here but I found myself a nice little gem this morning


Wilton No.202 with factory clamp base, raised replaceable anvil and most of the factory sticker intact

It set me back a whopping 5.00:evil:

Date on the key way reads 6-46

god...do I hate you..........
 

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I have several British Brothers-in-law...

And almost all of them...

Are trying to talk me into shipping my 1993 Chevrolet K1500 over there...

Bought it new in October 1993 for $18,000...and it's only got 108,000 miles on it...I like it better than the new ones...and 40 grand, for a new one, is too damn high for this retiree...when I bought it, I thought to myself, "Well, here's your last new vehicle..." I might have been right...

Moving and carrying "stuff", is not a normal European car's forte...

Pickup Trucks Rule!!!

Especially for Big Vise Hauling!!!
 

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CW: so one guy had all those cool vises and he has more? did he say what model #'s his big Reed vises were? i don't see any of you gents across the pond getting too many Reed, Prentiss, Parker or even Wiltons much. so he has more and you are already planning the next bank to rob to buy more?

BC: JUST DAMN is all I can say. congrats
 

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DIF: He didn't say what model the Reeds were, I'm still in contact with him so I'll ask out of curiosity.

Dutch: Tried to get a few more pictures of the Record Leader 16 for you, I need to have a big tidy up and clear a bench but for now these chaotic pics should give you a better idea about it. I believe they were only available for a few years before Record decided they were too expensive to make. I did see them in a catalogue from either the late 70's or early 80's but I can't for the life of me find it at the moment. Interestingly the tommy bar is the same thickness as the tommy bar on the Record 48 at 3/4" thick.

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Opens to about 8.5" at the moment but.....
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.... this weld snot and the damaged end will probably allow another inch or more opening once cleaned up EDIT: It opens to 10" now I've cleaned the slide up.
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8" wide jaws bolted with tiny allen screws from behind.
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Looks like it was welded to a bench in the past, but being a fabricated vice there'll be no problem welding the damage back up :)
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EDIT Found the catalogue with the Record Leader in it, on garagejournal of course.
It's a 1979 catalogue.
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joe.striper

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Lol, he's my hero ;)

I left home at 5pm and was back by 2am thanks to traffic,road works, and hour and a half of chin wagging. Was only a 320 mile round trip though and I might be visiting again next month! Currently I can't get in the workshop without walking on vices :)

Cwazy, the difference between you and me is I don't stop every 10 miles , pick a house at random, and buy all their vises! Really? How many is TOO many??!!:lol_hitti:beer::evil::eyecrazy::shocking::drool:;):willy_nil:lol:
 

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I finally got around to taking a picture of the key way for anybody interested.

The little adjustable foot of the clamp is missing so I'll have to figure out a way to repair it. I'm thinking about stripping down a similar sized clamp and using the guts on this little guy. Maybe a tapped hole into the clamps threaded shank and just screw in a whole new assembly
 

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BC, Mcmaster and the like actually sell clamp feet as a repair item for the larger clamps. I'd bet they get small enough for the clamp on the Wilton, but if you despair, my offer still stands... :evil:
 
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