The VISES of Garage Journal

[jrobb316]

I got this cool little 2.5" Milwaukee Tool & Equipment vise today. Doesn't look like its ever seen any action. Original paint. $25 model # 600

 

[oldldh]

I got this cool little 2.5" Milwaukee Tool & Equipment vise today. Doesn't look like its ever seen any action. Original paint. $25

Fixed it for you...

 

[jrobb316]

I was just working on that

 

[zkling]

I got this cool little 2.5" Milwaukee Tool & Equipment vise today. Doesn't look like its ever seen any action. Original paint. $25

Just what everyone needs, a dash vise.

 

[Outlawmws]

Just what everyone needs, a dash vise.

Certainly everyone HERE does...

I like it. That is a nice setup for modeling.

 

[Fretters]

Took a few pictures of the old Parkinson wood vice before I put it away for a while so I can have some space to work on some of the others. It's interesting that they have a cast frame rather than rods for it to run on, you've restored one of these haven't you Fretters?

I think that type is quite a bit older than the rod type. Probably from when Parkinson's started producing vices, in the late 1800's. Yup, I've got one of those. Was a bit of a dog, condition wise, when it came here.

It cleaned up well enough though, considering its original condition.

By the way does anyone know anything about Rededa wood working vices?

I know of them, but not anything about who produced them.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Did you find the front jaw of the Parkinson could move up and down a bit? I've not had a close look but it's just something I noticed when taking the photos earlier, I assumed it was to do with the design rather than massive amounts of wear as the jaw tops were still level when at rest.

I have a couple of Rededa No 2 wood working vices in the pile, they look pretty similar to the record/paramo vice design

Fretters: Your vice cleaned up very well Is it just BLO on the bear parts?

 

[jakemac]

The little adjustable foot of the clamp is missing so I'll have to figure out a way to repair it. I'm thinking about stripping down a similar sized clamp and using the guts on this little guy. Maybe a tapped hole into the clamps threaded shank and just screw in a whole new assembly

Ball and socket. I think the ones sold by Mcmaster have a wire spring lock in them, so they snap on. I know buying one will probably put you upside down on this vise, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do......

This ^^^ on all clamp on's I've seen.

If the clamp does have a ball and socket, then try one of these clamp pads from Zoro. These get crimped on, no spring. These are the ones I use to repair C-clamps that are missing their pads.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111293257268?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151246921891?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Turning one out on the Southbend won't be a problem but I'm not sure how it's attached to the threaded post. It looks like something was torn off when it broke

Are they fixed or do they have a ball and socket joint that allows for irregular clamping surfaces?

The ones that I make are for ball & socket. They get a blind hole drilled at the end of the spindle foot for that ball to fit in. Then there is a small groove near the top of the hole for a snap ring to retain the ball end. They are made from 1.25" round stock.

 

[drivesitfar]

Mark: any chance you might have a picture of the clamp pieces you make and hold on the existing clamp screw with a snap ring? i have many regular clamps that I've bought and passed on that have them missing. i do buy more of them than pass and would love to fix them.

thanks

Fretters: I actually never get tired of you posting a Burgundy (Maroon) vice. isn't that the vise you put BLO in the paint? how is it holding up during the winter months?

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Drives: I'll do the best I can. All of the spindle feet I've made are installed on c-clamps.

 

[lbgradwell]

Record No3 and 100...
The 3 is double the weight I would say.
There is much more than 2 models of 4" Record vices.

Thanks for posting that.

So what was the reasoning? Do other sizes exist in the same "series" as the No. 100?

I presume the No. 3 is heavier duty?

 

[Fretters]

Did you find the front jaw of the Parkinson could move up and down a bit? I've not had a close look but it's just something I noticed when taking the photos earlier, I assumed it was to do with the design rather than massive amounts of wear as the jaw tops were still level when at rest.

Aye, some slop on the old style ones isn't unexpected. They're not precision fit parts.

Fretters: Your vice cleaned up very well Is it just BLO on the bear parts?

Fretters: I actually never get tired of you posting a Burgundy (Maroon) vice. isn't that the vise you put BLO in the paint? how is it holding up during the winter months?

Yup, that's the vice which had the full blown Linseed oil, (a mixture of pure Linseed oil and gum turpentine), treatment. All the bare metal coated with Linseed oil, even underneath the paint. Seems to be holding up fine. Can't remember if I mixed any into the paint with that one or not though. I think it was just straight enamel on that vice.

 

[bagged89s10]

This is what I have for now.

A Wilton I bought at lowes about 8-9 years ago. I'm assuming it's made in China but it hasn't done me wrong. I have to mount it on my new workbench soon, or sell it for a US made Parker. If I keep it in thinking of painting it a vintage wilton color. Blue doesn't match my garage colors, only my truck.


A 3 1/2 Columbian. It's missing the swivel base but it's a nice small vise.

 

[drivesitfar]

Bagged: as I've said many times before that old double jaw swiveling vise is a crowd favorite. it should last you a life time if you don't use it as an anvil or a press. all the guys that have and broken theirs bolted and welded them back together and still love them. keep it and find something bigger than that little Columbian to put on a stand or another bench.

Mark: even if you show a clamp with the part you made and snap clip that would be fine with me. i'm sure others would like to see it to because if they don't have a broken one on a vise like BC they probably have an old clamp that needs one. thanks

 

[va.grouseman]

I got this cool little 2.5" Milwaukee Tool & Equipment vise today. Doesn't look like its ever seen any action. Original paint. $25 model # 600

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=420790&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1425250685
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Another one for the index.---Never seen that one before.

 

[drivesitfar]

JRobb: i forgot to add to my last post that you found a cute little vise. are you guessing that it's new or is it and just rusty?

Fretters: now that i remember your Parkinson burgundy vice you just posted had BLO put on it out of the Electrolysis tank and then you painted right over it with your favorite Burgundy paint. i think you have mixed some BLO in your paint mix in the past too on other vices. it still looks great.

 

[balane]

Just got home with this big ol' 500S. Made in 1985 and in excellent shape. I'll post some finished photos when I get done with it.

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[Fretters]

Fretters: now that i remember your Parkinson burgundy vice you just posted had BLO put on it out of the Electrolysis tank and then you painted right over it with your favorite Burgundy paint. i think you have mixed some BLO in your paint mix in the past too on other vices. it still looks great.

You got me wondering there too. I've definitely painted something with an enamel/oil mix, but even I couldn't remember what it was offhand. Just checked, and it was the spring cover and table for that little Walker-Turner? scrollsaw. I shifted that table to a different storage spot the other day, and the paint still looks perfectly fine on that, so the mix appears to hold up fine over time.

That mix I made up for that will be getting used on this York 80 I'm currently working on too, provided that mix hasn't dried out. It's been months since I last painted owt, so that jar of enamel/oil might have turned solid by now.

 

[Fretters]

Just got home with this big ol' 500S. Made in 1985 and in excellent shape. I'll post some finished photos when I get done with it.

That looks to be in sound physical nick Balane. Doesn't look like the jaw tops or table have taken a beating on that one?

 

[jrobb316]

JRobb: i forgot to add to my last post that you found a cute little vise. are you guessing that it's new or is it and just rusty?

Fretters: now that i remember your Parkinson burgundy vice you just posted had BLO put on it out of the Electrolysis tank and then you painted right over it with your favorite Burgundy paint. i think you have mixed some BLO in your paint mix in the past too on other vices. it still looks great.

It's just a little rusty but I doubt it's been used, not a mark on the jaws or anvil. It's not currently in production so I don't know how old.
If there is an archive here is a shot of the other side. It says V119 and No 600.

 

[balane]

That looks to be in sound physical nick Balane. Doesn't look like the jaw tops or table have taken a beating on that one?

Seeing it in person bares that out. It's in exceptionally sound condition for which I'm grateful. Got her busted down and the old finish stripped. Going to start on the paintwork now and get the steel hardware cleaned up. My arms are sore!! This thing is heavy.

 

[macgee]

I recently lost out on acquiring one of these 3 axis drill press vises.

Has anyone seen these before? Know what it is?

Thanks

 

[dutchgray]

Thanks for posting that.

So what was the reasoning? Do other sizes exist in the same "series" as the No. 100?

I presume the No. 3 is heavier duty?

Different uses and costs I suppose, the 100 is definitely the cheaper light duty option, the 3 is the most common general use workshop vice, then there are the quick release models and the ones with anvil surfaces on them for rougher use.
I don't think there are others in the 100 series, but they made a lot of different vices over the years.

 

[joe.striper]

In Dallas for work and looked at CL. Saw this British vice. 150. Can I fit this in my carry on?

 

[bagged89s10]

In Dallas for work and looked at CL. Saw this British vice. 150. Can I fit this in my carry on?

That would be one heavy carry on.

 

[oldldh]

There is a REAL nice Craftsman 5191 on Ebay...

BIN of $ 100.00...

But its in California...big freight for me...

But Outlaw, and BigCaddy, and anyone else on the "Left" coast ought to be all over this pristine beauty...

And it's the cream of the crop...

A Non-Swivlin' B@#tard!!!!

 

[balane]

Here's the finished 500S in all of its 93 pound glory. This five incher is a beast of a bullet!

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[oldldh]

Balane, my boy...

Once again...

Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!

(You're on the "Left" coast...get that 5191 I posted...)

 

[Fretters]

Balane, is that the one you picked up yesterday?

 

[balane]

Balane, my boy...

Once again...

Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!

(You're on the "Left" coast...get that 5191 I posted...)

Thanks olddh!

I would love to get my hands on that Craftsman but I think he has the shipping set to calculate a little on the high side. Even just a couple of states up it's at $56 for shipping for me. That makes my outlay over $150. I refinished and sold an identical vise on eBay, photo below, it was super nice. The final selling bid was $180 and I shipped it to Georgia from Seattle at a cost of $48 via FedEx. I love these vises but not enough meat on the bone in this deal for me.

Fretters, yes this was the vise I brought home yesterday. I worked late hours!

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[GETRIDAONE]

Balane doesn't actually restore vises, he places them on the stump and waves the magic vise wand over them. That is how he gets them done so quick.
I was going to post some pictures but Balane is a hard act to follow.

 

[Fretters]

Fretters, yes this was the vise I brought home yesterday. I worked late hours!

Late hours; More like time travel. How on God's earth have you managed to turn that out within one day? That speed I could only dream of.

 

[balane]

I can easily thank baking on the paint for my turnover time on these. Spray a coat and cook it at 200 degrees for a half hour, three times. Cools down quickly in the garage and ready for assembly. But I was up on this one until 5AM last night, I'm just not able to stop when I start a project.

Get, please don't let me stop you from posting vise photos, the more the better!

 

[Fretters]

I can easily thank baking on the paint for my turnover time on these. Spray a coat and cook it at 200 degrees for a half hour, three times. Cools down quickly in the garage and ready for assembly. But I was up on this one until 5AM last night, I'm just not able to stop when I start a project.

That's me searching for an old oven or similar. Get ready for the: "I smoked my shed out" post.

 

[oldldh]

Get ready for the: "I smoked my shed out" post.

Ah---

The Olde English Smoking Shed problem...

I've got a couple of family members with that same ailment...

Miss aimed welding splatter, i believe...

 

[CwazyWabbit]

What kind of oven do you guys use to cure your paint?

 

[balane]

Mine is just a typical 30" Kenmore range like the one you see in most homes. The cast iron pieces on this one stressed the racks a little bit but they held up.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Cheers sir

 

[drivesitfar]

Balane: I agree you are amazing. i hope you are giving some thought on how to repair or replace your stump because it looks like the last hurricane blowing through Seattle knocked off a couple hunks of it.


Groo: Balane may be a hard act to follow, but yours you post are not far behind if not ahead of him at times because of the rarity of yours. please do post them and maybe both of you can post up a few more of your before, during and after pictures on the Vise Repair 101 thread that a lot of members are learning from.