The VISES of Garage Journal

[McBrownie]

I know Prentiss used a lot of base designs but that base almost looks as if its off a cheapie import, but I'm far from a expert.

On second look, this picture looks like the base might be made out of two pieces of steel plate - one with the legs and one on top of the legs to add thickness. That would explain the lack of radii. Is that a seam between the two pieces in this picture?

 

[depatty]

On second look, this picture looks like the base might be made out of two pieces of steel plate - one with the legs and one on top of the legs to add thickness. That would explain the lack of radii. Is that a seam between the two pieces in this picture?

Enlarged it a bit and it sure looks like a seam.

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[joe.striper]

http://allentown.craigslist.org/tls/4919883035.html

RUN to this! Isn't this an Emmert Pattern Makers Vise!!??? 75.00! I can't get to it.

 

[WhoWhatNow]

http://allentown.craigslist.org/tls/4919883035.html



RUN to this! Isn't this an Emmert Pattern Makers Vise!!??? 75.00! I can't get to it.

It's gone. I texted the guy 1hr after it was posted and he already had someone coming to get it.

 

[oldldh]

It's gone. I texted the guy 1hr after it was posted and he already had someone coming to get it.

If it is an Emmert...

It'll be on Ebay next week...

For a bunch...

 

[demoman]

Torqueman2002 Nice Columbian swivel jaw. I have never found on in my travels. Very nice find and the smooth jays are a neat option even if they are add ons. Don't paint it

 

[454ragtop]

Hey oldldh, you got some competition for the Craftsman 5197/5198
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/tls/4919989563.html
Wonder if it's someone on here?
Jim

 

[oldldh]

Hey oldldh, you got some competition for the Craftsman 5197/5198
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/tls/4919989563.html
Wonder if it's someone on here?
Jim

All will be revealed...

I just stuck eight pins in my VooDoo doll...

 

[bigcaddy]

If it is an Emmert...

It'll be on Ebay next week...

For a bunch...

It was for sure. Most likely a new Improved K1 Universal. That was a gooooooood price

 

[bigcaddy]

All will be revealed...

I just stuck eight pins in my VooDoo doll...

Is that why I just got a headache and chest pains? . You are sticking pins in the wrong doll, oldie.

 

[torqueman2002]

Those jaws look like homemade but are pretty nice.

That's a cool find TM. I can't recall seeing that type of add-on jaw like that for any machinist vise, much less a Columbian.

Well Done!

TM: most of us would have bought that vise even if it was our 1,000th estate sale. that Columbian swivel jaw is a keeper and those interesting lower jaws are pretty unique and look well done. can you take a few more pictures of where the lower jaw was mounted that you removed and maybe remove the other one and take a couple pictures.

you done good my friend

Torqueman2002 Nice Columbian swivel jaw. I have never found on in my travels. Very nice find and the smooth jays are a neat option even if they are add ons. Don't paint it

Thanks guys. I can see the siren call of these old vises could turn my head from vintage CM Block grinders.

Here are some more details of those add-on smooth jaws.

I'm guessing this is a locating ball that aligns with the middle hole on the vise. Looks like the ball is held in place with a hexagon metal piece. That looks like it took some know how.

Side view.

Thanks for looking.

 

[topop101]

Thanks guys. I can see the siren call of these old vises could turn my head from vintage CM Block grinders.

Here are some more details of those add-on smooth jaws.

I'm guessing this is a locating ball that aligns with the middle hole on the vise. Looks like the ball is held in place with a hexagon metal piece. That looks like it took some know how.

Side view.

Thanks for looking.

Serious modification, gota love the American mind and the will to achieve .

 

[oldldh]

Is that why I just got a headache and chest pains? . You are sticking pins in the wrong doll, oldie.

Nay, Nay, my son---

Those pins are reserved for vise usurpers...

("Vise Usurpers"...That sounds obscene...)

And...

They know...

Who they are...

 

[Craptain]

Following up on the little vise I bought yesterday with a few pics. The vise is a "Yankee" and was made in PA I believe by North. It has a swivel base and smooth jaws. There is some slight damage but overall in nice condition.

 

[mrgsc1]

I posted this in the vintage tools forum. Then I found this thread. This is my first restore. Found a baby bullet Wilton 920 in an old barn. Did my research and found out it was made in 1947 with the help of Kevin at WVP.

Everyone let me know what you think. Here are the before and after pics.

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[CwazyWabbit]

That's a lovely job, looks like new, you should be very proud of that work.

 

[drivesitfar]

MR. GRC: that is an amazing transformation of your little Wilton. for a new member you must have been lurking for a while to do a nice job like that and find the talents of KMScott to help with some parts.

BTW welcome to our forum and our vise group

TM: that Cleveland vise is one special vise, but i think you should ship it to me because it will only cause you to buy many more. thanks for the pictures and something that I've never seen before. You are in the old auto capital of the world so i wonder what the purpose of those jaws was for.

 

[mrgsc1]

Thank you. Kevin was great in helping with the bent parts that could not be saved. He said originals were battleship gray, but it is an ugly color, so Verde Green it is.

 

[richeyc2000]

Hi, joined here from Ireland. This is my Paramo no.41 vice.





Working on cleaning it up and bringing it back to some former glory.



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[KMScott]

Is that why I just got a headache and chest pains? . You are sticking pins in the wrong doll, oldie.

That is funny, Oldie we gotta find you a 5198.

Thank you. Kevin was great in helping with the bent parts that could not be saved. He said originals were battleship gray, but it is an ugly color, so Verde Green it is.

Wow look how your 920 finished up, great work mrgsc. I remember seeing the first pic's when we talked and now look at it. Does anyone think the block was silver soldered or brazed on the anvil? I know they are really a solid mount, I have seen some that are kind of crooked. Only see the blocks on the old ones.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Mr gsc: beautiful work!

 

[Outlawmws]

Kevin, I think those blocks are screwed on from the inside. I remember seeing a post that that a spare block was supplied?

 

[Outlawmws]

And on that Baby Bullet restore!

 

[zkling]

Following up on the little vise I bought yesterday with a few pics. The vise is a "Yankee" and was made in PA I believe by North. It has a swivel base and smooth jaws. There is some slight damage but overall in nice condition.

That is neat, but does it really go together? It appears that the drilling forces are offset from the base contact point, necessitating the base to be bolted down in use.

 

[FMC1959]

Hi, joined here from Ireland. This is my Paramo no.41 vice......Working on cleaning it up and bringing it back to some former glory.

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Looks like it really had to work for a living, look forward to seeing the restore, and welcome to the site.

I posted this in the vintage tools forum. Then I found this thread. This is my first restore. Found a baby bullet Wilton 920 in an old barn. Did my research and found out it was made in 1947 with the help of Kevin at WVP.

Everyone let me know what you think. Here are the before and after pics.
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Awesome job, that is up there with the best of them

 

[Outlawmws]

That is neat, but does it really go together? It appears that the drilling forces are offset from the base contact point, necessitating the base to be bolted down in use.

ZK, the Yankee/Stanley Drill press swivel vises are both swivel and slide, so you can center the part being drilled all with one cinch lever.

 

[zkling]

ZK, the Yankee/Stanley Drill press swivel vises are both swivel and slide, so you can center the part being drilled all with one cinch lever.

Ah, Ok that makes sense. I once watched a guy smash a few fingers after trying to feed a piece of tubing clamped in a vise thorough a vertical bandsaw. Leverage can be a royal B at times.

 

[Craptain]

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[Craptain]

That is neat, but does it really go together? It appears that the drilling forces are offset from the base contact point, necessitating the base to be bolted down in use.

Further research shows it available as a vise and/or vise and base. The base has countersunk mounting holes.

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[j.t.d.]

The 1973 Wilton C-1 I bought for $85.00 today.

 

[McBrownie]

The 1973 Wilton C-1 I bought for $85.00 today.

A C-1 with both pipe jaws for $85! What a deal. Congratulations!

 

[Fretters]

Following up on the little vise I bought yesterday with a few pics. The vise is a "Yankee" and was made in PA I believe by North. It has a swivel base and smooth jaws. There is some slight damage but overall in nice condition.

Nice. Looks like that could be quite handy to have around.

I posted this in the vintage tools forum. Then I found this thread. This is my first restore. Found a baby bullet Wilton 920 in an old barn. Did my research and found out it was made in 1947 with the help of Kevin at WVP.

Much as I'm personally not usually one for the full blown, make it sparkle type restorations, that's an impressive bit of work you've done there.

Hi, joined here from Ireland. This is my Paramo no.41 vice.

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Working on cleaning it up and bringing it back to some former glory.

Welcome. That looks like it should clean up nicely. What method are you using for clearing up the rust?

 

[j.t.d.]

Thanks, McBrownie!

 

[depatty]

Here are a few more pictures of the 5197.

Model No. 05197 - Hit it with some steel wool and it cleaned right up.

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Right side base showing the weld and strap.

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Broken anvil with really bad welds and strap.

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Left side ditto above...

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Bottom and the reason it never sat flat on a bench.

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The screw.

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Broken and welded nut.

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Took it a little further apart and cleaned the worst of the dirt out. Will go further later when time allows.

Dave

 

[Fretters]

By eck, some previous owner truly was trying their damnedest to kill that thing, weren't they.

 

[drivesitfar]

DePatty: thanks for the great pictures of your 5197 and i'm surprised it was still working. maybe get a board to mount it on that has a couple holes cut out to lay the bolt heads in so it can work as good as it can.

JTD: you won't need another vise in your shop now that you have that Wilton C1. there are a lot of members that have been looking for a Wilton bullet for years and yet to find one much less a C series one which are my favorite along with the babies.

 

[oldldh]

It's a crying shame to treat a 5197 like that...

Just brutal...

Most vises would have shattered when treated like that...

 

[oldldh]

J.T.D....

A Wilton C-1 for $ 85.00...

*****!!!

And so do you!!!

(Well somebody had to---didn't they???)

 

[bigcaddy]

The 1973 Wilton C-1 I bought for $85.00 today.

Well at least somebody ended up with a bullet vise today! I spent my whole morning waiting for an estate sale to start which I knew had a very clean and old Wilton mounted on the bench. I was inside first, only to find no vise. I eventually located it in a back storage room attached to the garage

When I asked about the vise and why, after clearly being pictured for sale, was not for sale. The woman's response was total indignation and borderline rude. Needless to say, I walked out. I also had to pass on a beat to hell Prentiss vise for a paltry sum of just 250.00! with 2 cracks in the usual spots. The world was upside down today and I'm counting the minutes until sunday


Nice C1, btw. It's one of the 2 Wilton's I have on my bench for daily home use. Many years of use and it's never let me down

 

[topop101]

On a mission this week to rescue this dude. It's broke on the tail end of the slide but I still want it. It's "7" inches for pete's sake... Tell me what it's worth so I don't over pay. It's a 300 mile round trip. They are asking 250.00 and I have to take the 55 gallon drum filled with concrete.