trijeff
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For anyone in the SF Bay Area - WOW - here's a minty Wilton/Parker combo pack:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/4930723399.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/4930723399.html
The VISES of Garage Journal
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JB: Wow! That is one good looking little vise!! What size are the jaws?
Great find ... enjoy
The jaws measure 2-1/2" across on it. Yeah, I sure like it too.
drivesitfar
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JB: very cool looking small vise. also one of my daughter's name is Kara. sorry i don't know much about the origins of your vise or that company, but i'll be looking for it's twin since Kara is a twin.
also i don't think you mentioned if you got to take that 6 inch Wilton home that you found in the back of your shop's garage. did you?
also i don't think you mentioned if you got to take that 6 inch Wilton home that you found in the back of your shop's garage. did you?
Trey T
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Two of the top GJ vises brand and series. Excellent deal!!For anyone in the SF Bay Area - WOW - here's a minty Wilton/Parker combo pack:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/4930723399.html
taumac
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JB Thats one beautiful vise.
on the Big Wilton;
nnnoo, I didn't get it...they will be putting it on public auction soon. Maybe I'll get a shot at it then.
macgee
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I recently obtained this nice little vise at an estate sale. The previous owner was a meticulous model railroad fan and he had some of the neatest tools and all were absolutely pristine. He had amassed quite a few very well made items in his 92 years. I was told by his daughter that he often made the parts for his hobby as well. I found this vise very appealing, I know the big vises are very popular on here but, I am often amazed at the style and lines of some of the smaller/older vises. This being one of them. I'm not very familiar with the brand of this (Karas Electric Co.) but, it is an extremely well made little vise and I felt it was one worthy of sharing on here.
JB,
Thanks for sharing and that is a beautiful vice; Enjoy!
Small vies are equally as nice as the behemoths, don't feel bad about posting it. I wish there were more small high quality vices shown on this thread as well as more odd and unusual vices as we seem to be lacking a bit of diversity lately.
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bagged89s10
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I recently obtained this nice little vise at an estate sale. The previous owner was a meticulous model railroad fan and he had some of the neatest tools and all were absolutely pristine. He had amassed quite a few very well made items in his 92 years. I was told by his daughter that he often made the parts for his hobby as well. I found this vise very appealing, I know the big vises are very popular on here but, I am often amazed at the style and lines of some of the smaller/older vises. This being one of them. I'm not very familiar with the brand of this (Karas Electric Co.) but, it is an extremely well made little vise and I felt it was one worthy of sharing on here.
That's a cool vise. Small vises come in handy just like the larger ones. What's the actual size of it?
joe.striper
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bigcaddy
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That looks like a little Stanley 7xx vise. It should be marked on the rear half of the slide. Not a bad deal if you get it for 20.00
bigcaddy
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I recently obtained this nice little vise at an estate sale. The previous owner was a meticulous model railroad fan and he had some of the neatest tools and all were absolutely pristine. He had amassed quite a few very well made items in his 92 years. I was told by his daughter that he often made the parts for his hobby as well. I found this vise very appealing, I know the big vises are very popular on here but, I am often amazed at the style and lines of some of the smaller/older vises. This being one of them. I'm not very familiar with the brand of this (Karas Electric Co.) but, it is an extremely well made little vise and I felt it was one worthy of sharing on here.
I bet that was a contract vise for Hollands. It looks very similar, especially with the rounded slide
bigcaddy
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Found this little beauty this morning. Paid for and ended up walking off without grabbing it
I went back later that day to continue shopping and ended up seeing it sitting just were I left it so I explained the situation and loaded it up.
It's a Morgan Chicago 40 fixed base. The jaws are a bit loose but the screws are just a bit loose.
I went back later that day to continue shopping and ended up seeing it sitting just were I left it so I explained the situation and loaded it up. It's a Morgan Chicago 40 fixed base. The jaws are a bit loose but the screws are just a bit loose.
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FMC1959
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Junebuggy, that is one super cool vise!
BC, I certainly would not ever question your expertise, your knowledge and vise expertise is among the tops on this thread. When I look at this vise, the jaws are one cast with the towers, the size of the base and the center screw swivel, just the overall simplicity of the vise, it looks more mid 1800 than early 1900.
If this is the case, I would think it would have been too early for Holland to be making/contracting vises. I would guess it to be one of the many smaller vise MFR's of the early days. Anyway, I would definitely have it in my collection if I ever came across it.
BC, I certainly would not ever question your expertise, your knowledge and vise expertise is among the tops on this thread. When I look at this vise, the jaws are one cast with the towers, the size of the base and the center screw swivel, just the overall simplicity of the vise, it looks more mid 1800 than early 1900.
If this is the case, I would think it would have been too early for Holland to be making/contracting vises. I would guess it to be one of the many smaller vise MFR's of the early days. Anyway, I would definitely have it in my collection if I ever came across it.
Thank You for the info, fellas. I think the Karas Electric Co. is my favorite so far. I have a definite wife "eye roller" collection of the smaller ones. I'm running out of answers as to "Why do you need another one of those?" though. I'm down to a simple "Cuz..."
I have a couple "biggins" too but, for some reason my eyes are drawn to these little buggers.
Here's my little vise family (from the left);
Chas Parker 973
Athol 612 1/2
Athol 87
No markings
PVC CO. NY #159
1895 H&B
jakemac
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$15 - $20. I'd tap out at $25 if I really wanted it. That isn't the original screw on the clamp. I agree it's a Stanley, or some other company's knockoff of their design.
jakemac
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How many of her shoes are spilling out of the closet ?
Is the kitchen decorated with comical cows, ducks, pigs, or other "cute" animals ?
I'm sure there's something she hoards that you can counter with. C'mon man, put more of an effort in. You must be able to come up with something that has more than one syllable.
va.grouseman
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Originally Posted by Junebuggy View Post
I recently obtained this nice little vise at an estate sale. The previous owner was a meticulous model railroad fan and he had some of the neatest tools and all were absolutely pristine. He had amassed quite a few very well made items in his 92 years. I was told by his daughter that he often made the parts for his hobby as well. I found this vise very appealing, I know the big vises are very popular on here but, I am often amazed at the style and lines of some of the smaller/older vises. This being one of them. I'm not very familiar with the brand of this (Karas Electric Co.) but, it is an extremely well made little vise and I felt it was one worthy of sharing on here.
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Junebug,---There is a stationary Karas on page 460,----post 9200 with a square slide.
Karas Electric Co. dates back to the 20s making radio components.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_hersteller_detail.cfm?company_id=8460
A lot of people won't remember FM converters, Karas made AM converters.---That's even before my time.
https://books.google.com/books?id=z... is the history of karas electric co.&f=false
I wonder why they got into the vise business, unless it was just an advertising thing or maybe complementary toys for their favorite distributors.
B100 may have something in his archives.
I recently obtained this nice little vise at an estate sale. The previous owner was a meticulous model railroad fan and he had some of the neatest tools and all were absolutely pristine. He had amassed quite a few very well made items in his 92 years. I was told by his daughter that he often made the parts for his hobby as well. I found this vise very appealing, I know the big vises are very popular on here but, I am often amazed at the style and lines of some of the smaller/older vises. This being one of them. I'm not very familiar with the brand of this (Karas Electric Co.) but, it is an extremely well made little vise and I felt it was one worthy of sharing on here.
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Junebug,---There is a stationary Karas on page 460,----post 9200 with a square slide.
Karas Electric Co. dates back to the 20s making radio components.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_hersteller_detail.cfm?company_id=8460
A lot of people won't remember FM converters, Karas made AM converters.---That's even before my time.
https://books.google.com/books?id=z... is the history of karas electric co.&f=false
I wonder why they got into the vise business, unless it was just an advertising thing or maybe complementary toys for their favorite distributors.
B100 may have something in his archives.
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Mark in Indiana
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Looks good except for the clamp screw. Me, I'd give <10$ for it to have fun building a new screw.
How many of her shoes are spilling out of the closet ?
Is the kitchen decorated with comical cows, ducks, pigs, or other "cute" animals ?
I'm sure there's something she hoards that you can counter with. C'mon man, put more of an effort in. You must be able to come up with something that has more than one syllable.
Ahhhh ha ha ha....yes...she has a cast iron frying pan collection, unfortunately, 40% of them have a dent in them the shape of my head!!" My only other word is "Ouch!"
bigcaddy
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Not a problem. I'm not sure when Hollands stareted making vises but it sure does share some characteristics.
va.grouseman
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Junebug,---Don't you listen to Jakemac.---Ain't no good going to come from it.---If she's got 200 pairs of shoes, and counting, 5 curios slam full, just let it go.---You can't win.---Whenever you get in a new unit, just take your lumps, then add it to the collection and then start looking for your next one.
JeremyBurke
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I picked up a new addition today (5196). I got it as a potential gift for my FIL. I was hoping it would be the 1956 version. Instead it is 5-48. So if someone wants to make a straight up trade let me know. Enough story, here are the pictures.
And one more on my bench.
And one more on my bench.
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bigcaddy
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I picked up a new addition today (5196). I got it as a potential gift for my FIL. I was hoping it would be the 1956 version. Instead it is 5-48. So if someone wants to make a straight up trade let me know. Enough story, here are the pictures.
And one more on my bench.
I think I have a few of those laying around and I'll check for that date. Hopefully I can help you out
Outlawmws
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FMC, I'm assuming you are talking about the one BC said was a Hollands? The side lists it as from an Electric Co....
Mid 1800 had no real Electrical...
and that style "swivel" vise, was made at least into the 20's and possibly into the 30's (a lot of vise Co's probably died in the Great depression...) Agreed, after about 1900 they were fading away from that design pretty fast.
Outlawmws
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econotrk
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Your 5196 looks to be in nice shape Jeremy, nice get.
I recently picked up a Lewis swivel vise. Aside from having the usual crud and having had someone's initials carved into the front jaw, missing the original handle, and having the top steel bar slightly bent downward (I've seen this problem on several examples of this model), it's in relatively good shape for it's 100+ years.
I know that exposed screw vises aren't the most popular vises. Still, I think that they're cool and they seem to cry out "Old Tool Here!!!". Because of this purchase, I have a new dream vise to seek out--a Prentiss 949. I'm sure I'll never find one, or if I do, it will be 5000 miles away--gotta love C*******t.
Seems like wherever the good stuff is, that's where I ain't! Oh well, I can dream, can't I?
I'll post some pix as soon as I get it up and running.
I know that exposed screw vises aren't the most popular vises. Still, I think that they're cool and they seem to cry out "Old Tool Here!!!". Because of this purchase, I have a new dream vise to seek out--a Prentiss 949. I'm sure I'll never find one, or if I do, it will be 5000 miles away--gotta love C*******t.
Seems like wherever the good stuff is, that's where I ain't! Oh well, I can dream, can't I?
I'll post some pix as soon as I get it up and running.
JeremyBurke
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I think I have a few of those laying around and I'll check for that date. Hopefully I can help you out
I think I may have seen a picture from you with a couple of this guys siblings. [emoji106]
I would love it if you could check. In a dream world it would be a 10-56. But really any 1956 would be awesome.
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JeremyBurke
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Thanks econotrk. With the exception of some engraved initials its in perfect shape. Straight handles and everything is very smooth.
drivesitfar
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Jeremy: nice find and you might mention if anybody has a 5195 or 5191 vise with the 10/56 date on the slide that that vise might work as a trade to get your Father in law a heckuva 60th birthday present (if it will work for you).
good luck and great find
good luck and great find
bigcaddy
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I know I have at least one made in October but no idea of the date. I'll give you an answer by Monday evening
JeremyBurke
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That is a good point. Also a 5197 or 5198 would work too.
a guy can dream right. Of course either of those might make it a little harder to give away.
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GETRIDAONE
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Here is one very similar to yours, this one has no swivel base though. Is the base on the one you have welded on ?
Joe, The vise supply must running out if you are messing around with the small ones. You bought every vise in the nearest three states lately.
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FMC1959
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Outlaw, I didn't make the "electrical" connection you did, good point. I was just looking at the very simple design elements to the vise, thinking it was among the first vise manufactured.
JuneB, the picture you found definitely shows the similarities, and that BC was dead on.
I had tried doing searches on Hollands origins but there isn't much. About the only thing I found showed Hollands started in the 1880's.
Picked up this Morgan Milwaukee this AM. Guy said it was 6 months old but there is a stamp of 1999 on the edge of the base. The "Star" line is supposed to be their lighter duty (professional) line but its made of the same iron the heavy duty line. Since its literally the home team I am very happy to get one on my bench. Even came with the box.
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We need more pictures! Jaw width?
joe.striper
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Here is one very similar to yours, this one has no swivel base though. Is the base on the one you have welded on ?
Joe, The vise supply must running out if you are messing around with the small ones. You bought every vise in the nearest three states lately.
Hey Get, not EVERY vise, just the interesting one, and for 25 bucks that one is interesting. I don't have it in my hands yet but I will soon. Yes mine is welded to the base and in much better shape than yours. Do you know who made it?
I got two more calls from my sources for Parker 954s, that makes 8 this week. All between 40-100. Didnt buy a single one. Are you proud of me.
Just tore down and rebuilt my Parker 439. OUTLAW will be proud because i left the patina intact.
I will post pics soon.