The VISES of Garage Journal

[bagged89s10]

Did you CT boys see this?

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/tls/4938968347.html

Yes the guy won't answer or return messages. I want it

Edit: he sold it but he had another one for $50 which is similar in size and he's going to call me when the snow melts so he can get to it.

~Veeps

 

[wrenchguy]

Did you CT boys see this?
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/tls/4938968347.html

joe had the guys phone shut off!

 

[bagged89s10]

joe had the guys phone shut off!

Sound like it. I just talked to the guy. He's calling me in a week or 2 for a similar one for $50.


~Veeps

 

[FMC1959]

Got new HEUER FRONT 120 vise from eBay, only 149€ with UPS delivery!!!

It has some play, but it's a very good vise.

https://plus.google.com/photos/103814781691945290090/albums/6130497770242528001

I like your test methods! On your first video, when you super tighten the bolt on one side then the other, what's the popping sound when you unscrew it?

Watch this video. It's from the manual referenced above by CwazyWabbit.

Hmmm. I may have to get me a Heuer...

It looks pretty impressive!

 

[CwazyWabbit]

They are similar in some ways to the Rigid/Pedinghaus Matador

 

[FMC1959]

They are similar in some ways to the Rigid/Pedinghaus Matador

I have the 5.5" Ridgid, great vise....especially for what they go for new. Very smooth, zero play. If you look at what they go for on Amazon, they have to be one of the best values $$$/quality wise.

The Heuer is twice the price, not sure what more it would have, but still would be nice to have.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

I have one of the smaller Elevator vices, not had much chance to play with it yet but they do look to be well made.

 

[bluebolt]

Suppose A_Pmech or KMScott or someone has tooled up and begun making replacement pipe jaws for Shop Kings? To be authentic, of course, they'd need to be cast iron, not machined. Missing a pair on my 3 1/2", just wondering. I got it cheap at an estate sale, and had to talk them into selling it without the POS workbench it was bolted to. Fortunately, the bench was Craftsman and therefor far more valuable than the vise.

I could kick myself for not spending a few minutes searching for the jaws, but wanted to git while the gittin' was good.
They're so frequently lost you'd think there would be plenty just lying around.

Anyone have some spares, let me know.

Let me check on my Shop King.

 

[bagged89s10]

oswego tool combination, 1 of the few with both jaw inserts and maybe not to damaged jaw towers. good luck.

Looks like an Oswego the more I look the picture closely. Maybe I'll get a "you ****" deal on it.


~Veeps

 

[sdavis622]

Hey guys, is this one to get excited about? Guy is asking $25. He is at work though and doesn't know the brand. Looks kinda rough.

 

[bagged89s10]

Hey guys, is this one to get excited about? Guy is asking $25. He is at work though and doesn't know the brand. Looks kinda rough.

Looks like a Parker but looks like the jaws are welded.


~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

Got new HEUER FRONT 120 vise from eBay, only 149€ with UPS delivery!!!

It has some play, but it's a very good vise.

https://plus.google.com/photos/103814781691945290090/albums/6130497770242528001

That's a nice vise!


~Veeps

 

[Outlawmws]

Kevin, incredible photos. I love it when you post your work.

Parkers, a hell of a lot of trouble and I bet a lot more of them would be in the scrap heap if they weren't worth all the effort. They probably went under from all the unnecessary size differences and fine tuning needed to build their vises. Seems wasteful.

Well, Parker was also a gun company, and in an era that saw many guns needing final fitment to work properly...

Kind of ironic for an industry that really laid the groundwork for Henry Ford and mass production...

 

[Outlawmws]

Hey guys, is this one to get excited about? Guy is asking $25. He is at work though and doesn't know the brand. Looks kinda rough.

Looks like a Parker but looks like the jaws are welded.


~Veeps

Worse yet, the dynamic jaw support is MIA...

 

[sdavis622]

Worse yet, the dynamic jaw support is MIA...

Thanks guys. I'll pass on it.

 

[bagged89s10]

So my buyer actually came thru and bought my Wilton 1760 for $300.
On to the next one I guess.
Anyone know what this one might be. I'm going to see it later today but this is the only picture he had of it until he gets home from work.



~Veeps

How much should I offer the guy for this oswego? If indeed in good shape.


~Veeps

 

[zkling]

Worse yet, the dynamic jaw support is MIA...

Yea, the front of the static jaw/body raises a few questions for me. Almost like someone took a cut off the entire face. :

 

[balane]

That old Parker is beat down, far past its usefulness unfortunately. However if you needed a spindle (Assuming that one isn't damaged or repaired.) and a collar that would be a godsend of a bargain for you.

 

[sdavis622]

That old Parker is beat down, far past its usefulness unfortunately. However if you needed a spindle (Assuming that one isn't damaged or repaired.) and a collar that would be a godsend of a bargain for you.

Yeah I thought of just picking it up for parts. It is a ways away. If he still has it when I'm in that area next week Maybe I'll pick it up.

Thanks everyone for the insight.

 

[trijeff]

autopts: you are absolutely brilliant. Snap-On branding that Tradesman AND going with the extreme green is pure genius, that 1745 is going to sell for an absolute mint. Definitely tucking this idea away for any Tradesmans I decide to part with.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151630616485?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

[jreb10]

With the weather having warmed up a bit, I was able to sparkle up the Baby Bullet that I lucked into a couple of weeks ago. Here are some before/after shots:









I was able to paint in front of the open garage door for the few seconds it takes to spray this little jewel. Now it looks so good that I may need to sell it!

 

[trijeff]

Really diggin that restore, jreb! Very, very nice work What did you use to get the un-coated sections so mirror-like? Scotchbrite EXL?

 

[balane]

This is a Wilton 645 vise made in 1976. 5" jaws, 44 Pounds. The color is hammered dark green. I decided to smooth the rough cast iron on the nose piece instead of painting it. This took a long time and a few sanding belts but I think it was worth the effort. Had to put new jaws on this vise because one was snapped in two.

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[bagged89s10]

autopts: you are absolutely brilliant. Snap-On branding that Tradesman AND going with the extreme green is pure genius, that 1745 is going to sell for an absolute mint. Definitely tucking this idea away for any Tradesmans I decide to part with.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/151630616485?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

+1 on amazing work. I also can't believe the number of vises you put out!


~Veeps

 

[jreb10]

Really diggin that restore, jreb! Very, very nice work What did you use to get the un-coated sections so mirror-like? Scotchbrite EXL?

It depends on the level of "bling" that I am after. I usually start with a variable speed wire wheel, with the speed depending on how "deep" the oxidation layer is.

Then if I want to smooth out some shallow dings and reduce the deeper dings I use my die grinder with either a 2" 180 grit disc or a coarse (brown) roloc. This works on handles too. You need to be careful as you are removing material. Then I use progressively finer rolocs usually ending with fine (blue).

I use a deburring wheel on the handles after taking out the big dings, rather than the finer rolocs. It is easy to spin the handles against the wheel. A dremel can clean up the tight areas where the wheel can't go.

I try not to "overpolish" the bare metal, but just get it "up to standard" with the body of the vise. The deeper dings are still there, but that is just character in my book.

 

[joe.striper]

Hey I bought a very nice Reed 403 1/2 R today. the seller is holding it for me. he sent me pics and in the last batch I noticed the blemish on the tail. I asked for more pics and this is what I got...WTF?! If it is a repair it is done nicely but I cant see a split or crack in the slide's *** end.

any opinions from Y'all?

 

[wrenchguy]

Hey I bought a very nice Reed 403 1/2 R today. the seller is holding it for me. he sent me pics and in the last batch I noticed the blemish on the tail. I asked for more pics and this is what I got...WTF?! If it is a repair it is done nicely but I cant see a split or crack in the slide's *** end.

any opinions from Y'all?

casting seam or flaw or surface rusted slide with repair under the rust.

 

[zkling]

Someone probably put it on there to act as a slide stop, preventing the dynamic jaw/slide from falling out of the static jaw/main casting if someone opened it too far.

 

[trijeff]

Joe: I'm certainly no expert but looks pretty good to me! Really like that pin retainer system, will definitely have to remember that when I get a swivelin' swiveler! The jaws look really crisp on that one. I'd say nice find.

 

[exmaxima1]

Someone probably put it on there to act as a slide stop, preventing the dynamic jaw/slide from falling out of the static jaw/main casting if someone opened it too far.

+1

 

[Outlawmws]

Hey I bought a very nice Reed 403 1/2 R today. the seller is holding it for me. he sent me pics and in the last batch I noticed the blemish on the tail. I asked for more pics and this is what I got...WTF?! If it is a repair it is done nicely but I cant see a split or crack in the slide's *** end.

any opinions from Y'all?

Someone probably put it on there to act as a slide stop, preventing the dynamic jaw/slide from falling out of the static jaw/main casting if someone opened it too far.

+1

again; that bar was added by someone to keep the un-trained apes from overextending the slide. Probably the same guy that added the lanyard chain on the pin so it wouldn't grow legs...

I'd guess once you get it in you hands, you may find other refinements on it... That find has possibilities.

 

[bagged89s10]

Someone probably put it on there to act as a slide stop, preventing the dynamic jaw/slide from falling out of the static jaw/main casting if someone opened it too far.

Hopefully you're right.

It doesn't seem cracked. In the pics.


~Veeps

 

[bagged89s10]

Picked up this OSWEGO No. 88 for $65





I'll post more pics and info when I get home.


~Veeps

 

[autopts]

autopts: you are absolutely brilliant. Snap-On branding that Tradesman AND going with the extreme green is pure genius, that 1745 is going to sell for an absolute mint. Definitely tucking this idea away for any Tradesmans I decide to part with.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151630616485?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Thanks for the compliment. I've seen closer "Extreme Green" colors. Lately, auctions have been a real **** shoot for me. Making big money flipping vises is a thing of the past, at least in my area. If we could get some decent weather I've got a few others I have rehab outside.

 

[autopts]

Hey I bought a very nice Reed 403 1/2 R today. the seller is holding it for me. he sent me pics and in the last batch I noticed the blemish on the tail. I asked for more pics and this is what I got...WTF?! If it is a repair it is done nicely but I cant see a split or crack in the slide's *** end.

any opinions from Y'all?

Don't feel bad Joe. I got this Parker beast 249X and the back static has a crack

 

[Steevo]

I continued with the teardown, cleanup of the Wilton C1 today.
drivesitfar and 454ragtop were correct in that the pipe jaws were retained by spring clips on the back of them.
I got those out, and decided to stop fooling around with the jaw screws.
It is times like this that having a mill makes things soooo much easier.
I mounted the vise body on the mill table, selected an end mill that was just the diameter of the head on the cap screws retaining the jaws, and bored the heads off the screws.

This makes it possible to pop off the jaws, grab the screw shanks with vise grips, and get them out easily:

With all the jaws off, I blasted the parts, cleaned up the torch and grinder gouges in the vise, and milled off the anvil surface to clean it up:

The end cap was pretty beat up, dented and had a nasty crease in it, but at least it was still there.
I took a hammer and some shaping tools to it, and got it as close to original dome shape as I could:

Then I sanded it and buffed it, and it came out surprisingly well:

With warm weather forecast for this weekend, I should be able to get the body painted and ready for re-assembly.

 

[autopts]

This is a Wilton 645 vise made in 1976. 5" jaws, 44 Pounds. The color is hammered dark green. I decided to smooth the rough cast iron on the nose piece instead of painting it. This took a long time and a few sanding belts but I think it was worth the effort. Had to put new jaws on this vise because one was snapped in two.

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That tool box will one day make a excellent replacement for your stump.

 

[zoomieport]

Hello all!

Seems to be some curiousity about Oswego vises lately...
I too am curious. I have these 3 swivel base, rotating jaw, combination vises and don't know a thing about them.
"Sawyer Oswego"

Take care!
ZOOM

 

[zoomieport]

For a size comparison... HA!

 

[FMC1959]

Zoomie, that is an awesome lineup you have there! I saw your first post not too long ago when you were just starting the vise itch late 2011, sure has grown fast, you have a count of how many vise you have now in the " sea of tetanus"?

I think that sea has one of the nicest bullet collections avywhere