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CSP: i know exactly what you have in your garage because i probably sold hundreds of homes with that in my years as a Realtor. can you share any pictures and do you just turn the vise to the side when not in use? also can you swap out a grinder to put on the stand and take the vise and put on a shelf when needed?

cool idea
 
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I have a 4" Parker sitting on a stand made from all scrap yard finds. The base is a 24 x 5" cast iron gear and the column is 6 x 1/4" wall galvanized pipe. For years it had 4 giant nails bent into hooks and welded on the side of the column to hang tools from. A few weeks ago I found some sort of transmission/engine bushing mount and made it the tool holder. There is a steel band attached to the column and the tool holder spins around on that.
 

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csp: What a GREAT idea! As a suggestion, you may want to mount with the static jaw face in line to the edge of the base or a little over, that way you can clamp longer items (longer towards the floor) without the base getting in the way. But yeah, that's gotta be rigid as all get out. Nice work.

dw: Want! That stand is all kinds of awesome and then some.
 
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Thanks for the feedback. Some day I would like to get a plasma cutter. When that happens or I have access to one, I was thinking about trimming the plate. As you can see it's all made from scrap I got form the steel supply place, made it very cheap.
 

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I must admit I was not happy with it either. But then I found a use for it. It is less of a space issue as my garage is 3 car across then in front of the left bay on the two car side is a tandem garage section where this is. So its a 4 car garage but I use the tandem area as my little shop and parking spot for my bike.
 

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This is not nearly complete, but I needed a stand for my grinder and decided to incorporate some additional receiver storage into it also. Thanks for all the great ideas!
 
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CSP: thanks for the pictures and i bet there are a lot of members and non members going to take your design and make theirs like it.

MCLean: that is one awesome stand and i also would love to see it from all 4 sides and maybe with a couple different configurations with something different on top.

nice work
 

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Finished!!


Spring pins on all receivers


All tubes cut and bent to allow them to slide in without retracting the spring pins. Really helps loading some of these heavy pigs.
 
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McClean: very nice. i like the pull pins and care to share where you bought them? i have bought a few from the gym equipment companies if i had a machine missing them, but wondered if there is another better source for them.

very nice modification on cutting the back of the slides to push the pins open. any idea how much the stand weights without any vises or grinders on it?
 

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MD: thanks for posting the link and if he has a build thread which i doubt because he's a new member with only a couple posts please post it or one of a similar bench if he copied another members.

Jere: so it sounds interesting. can you take a few pictures and post up more details?

Basically the wood is just an adaptor plate.

I only rent the garage so I don't want to punch a bunch of holes in the work bench I don't own. The plank is bolted to the bench where a previous owner had a small vise. The three vise holes are covered by the polisher and this is a pretty sorry example I guess. Hopefully this gets the idea across anyway
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The plank could be thicker for bigger machines and the holes could be easier to access so the machine wouldn't need unscrewed/unbolted.

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The above Frankenstein dremel mounts in the same spot but also has extra holes to hang on pegboard that is all around.

There are some other power tools that are setup similarly like belt sander, scroll saw, small drill press and a pipe vise on section of 2x12.
 

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Vise and Grinder stands. I'm looking for ideas on how to use several in limit...

This is not nearly complete, but I needed a stand for my grinder and decided to incorporate some additional receiver storage into it also. Thanks for all the great ideas!





Thats awesome. Great design
 

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McClean: very nice. i like the pull pins and care to share where you bought them? i have bought a few from the gym equipment companies if i had a machine missing them, but wondered if there is another better source for them.

very nice modification on cutting the back of the slides to push the pins open. any idea how much the stand weights without any vises or grinders on it?

They are all mfg by Innovative Components and I got them on Amazon
I know they can be sourced cheaper on some of the exercise equipment sites, but couldn't argue with the Prime shipping on these. They come with the weld on barrels too.

I have no idea on weight. It's actually not too heavy. I'm sure it's because of all those speed holes! lol
 
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Jere: thanks for the pictures and another great way to have a spot reserved for several grinders and vises. just a warning probably to other members and lurkers more than you, but if you do like using an open wire wheel on a bench grinder wear plenty of eye/face protection and thick clothing because when it spits out wires at 3450 RPM's they can stick in flesh. I've actually had to pull some out from the inside of my sweatshirts.

McClean: i think you know i'm liking your stand a lot so do you have any before pictures. what did you use for the base and the back? also for the trailer hitch type hook up what size and gauge or thickness of tubing did you use. did you drill the holes in the tubing for the pull pins and with what bit and tool? did you do the welding yourself and what does your welding set up look like because i'm getting close to buying some good welding equipment and start welding myself?

thanks for sharing all the information on your cool stand with me (us).:)
 

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So just doing some thinking here and its seems that the biggest drawback for a portable stand is just that, its portable and thus inherently unstable. If a guy was building a shop, would it be worth the time and expense to set some reciever tubing or some other type of anchor system in the floor at specific or random locations to use as a reciever/anchor for a vice stand? Of course it would need to be flush with the floor to avoid tripping hazards.
 

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McClean: i think you know i'm liking your stand a lot so do you have any before pictures. what did you use for the base and the back? also for the trailer hitch type hook up what size and gauge or thickness of tubing did you use. did you drill the holes in the tubing for the pull pins and with what bit and tool? did you do the welding yourself and what does your welding set up look like because i'm getting close to buying some good welding equipment and start welding myself?

thanks for sharing all the information on your cool stand with me (us).:)

Thanks! I’m pretty terrible about taking in-process pics, but I will try to answer your questions.

I attached a pic of the base in-work. It was built out of 2”x2”x1/4” angle and the plate is 1/8” hot roll sheet. I could have used thicker/beefier material for all of it, but this is what I had in the garage and the 1/8” allowed me to use the dimple dies too.

The receiver assemblies are constructed from receiver tubing and 2” square tube. The primary receiver is part of a receiver tube I purchased on amazon that was left over from my bench receiver- brand was “Curtis”, I believe. It was relatively expensive so I tried to find a cheaper option for the bottom 3, but after calling the local trailer fab shops and specialty tube resources and striking out, I opted to save a few bucks over amazon and get the Harbor Freight receiver tube. I would NOT recommend this material to anyone!! I ended up using it, but it is not real receiver tubing! It still has a weld seam, it’s just oversized and sloppy enough that 2” tube fits. And it’s powdercoated which is a pain to remove if you plan to weld to it.

The holes were drilled in my drill press. Nothing fancy here, pilot hole followed up with a 5/8” HSS bit.

I did all the welding with my Miller 180. .030 wire with shielding gas. It is a great machine for this kinda stuff.

Also while we’re diving into the details, I attached a picture of the solution I came up with for feet. Initially, I wanted some adjustable feet for this stand. But after pricing them out, I decided to try and come up with a homebrew solution. A quick trip to Home Depot and I found some door stops and ¼” hardware that looked like they would fit the bill. I currently have them all bottomed out so the stand is not level, but it is super solid and that’s all I really care about. With some longer hardware, they could be adjusted to level if needed.



Looks great!

But, how are you going to keep the tools below clean when using the grinder?


Capt. Chrysler

Hey Capt, that is a really good point, but that was a sacrifice I had to make. I would have liked to add a sheetmetal enclosure for the bottom section, but that would have really limited the attachments I could have stored there. I guess it’s just going to have to get a good vacuum/blow off every once in a while.
 

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I made mine out of an old car wheel. I'll have to take a pic of it later.
 
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God I love bringing old stuff back to life for another 50-100 years of good service.

The stand I made from $.60/lb scrap bits at the local steel yard and an old drill press post. I value mobility over stability in my small shop, so it got wheels. My father-in-law made one with wheels - I've used it a bunch and it's surprisingly stable.

Any idea how old this Reed 403 1/2 vise is?
 

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I can't answer your question on how old that Reed is. But you did an exceptional job bringing it back to life.

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Theres a guy on Istagram that uses those discs farmers use to turn the soil? Sorry don't know the proper name. But he said they are fairly thick and cheap from farm supply places. He uses one per machine. They look real easy to sweep over/around also. Ill look for a pic. His name is Matt Walrath, If you do instagram look him up, he is one of my fab heroes!

Edit: found the pic...and just noticed the title says "in a limited space" My bad!

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Yup....those disc blades make awesome bases! I use them all the time on the bases I make....easy to roll around too!

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Theres a guy on Istagram that uses those discs farmers use to turn the soil? Sorry don't know the proper name. But he said they are fairly thick and cheap from farm supply places. He uses one per machine. They look real easy to sweep over/around also. Ill look for a pic. His name is Matt Walrath, If you do instagram look him up, he is one of my fab heroes!

Edit: found the pic...and just noticed the title says "in a limited space" My bad!

Matt Walrath? I grew up across the street from Tim Walrath and he is famous ( in my mind ) for rolling a '71 Nova through a telephone pole into a Catapilliar tractor and walking away from it. Oh, the good old days of v8's and drum brakes.

However, those discs are awesome.
 

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At the shop I worked at (industrial rotating equipment) they had a pretty neat setup. There were a few big vises mounted on ibeams on huge gears, think 24" across by 8" deep, because we had that stuff as scrap, and cranes in the ceiling to move them. The big grinders and wire wheels were all mounted on heavy wall square tube, and could be stored sideways in a channel on the vise stand.
 
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JB: is that a picture of your shop with all those cool grinders and sanders on those stands? i see 2 Baldors, 2 Burrkings, 2 sanders and maybe a shaper in the corner. all are on stands like you built for your Parker vise which also looks great BTW.

or if that isn't your shop care to share a few pictures of yours which must be amazing?

no wonder you make those awesome knives you do.

McClean: thanks for posting more pictures and details of you multy tool stand.

All: i have a question for those of you that do this all the time. say i did find a farm with a rusted out or broken disk rototiller attachment how do you get those disks off so you can haul them back home. i'm thinking some of you carry a torch with a couple tanks with oxy/ace in them to cut those apart or do tell please.
 

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Drives.... no my picture of the parker at the bottom is the only one. I'm not sure who the shop above belongs too. I'm in the middle of moving my shop as soon as I'm up and moving around. Nothing like a good ol' lung lavage to take the wind out of you (no pun intended). As soon as I get things set up...I will get some pictures. Then again....a nice condo on a golf course or possibly over in Friday Harbor is swirling around in my head a lot these days too. I love that area. I could go nuts with the artisan way of life there with a little shop/studio. We'll see how it goes.......and for those of you who've never been to the San Juan Islands of Washington State.....it's a hidden jewel for sure. :)
 

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JB: is that a picture of your shop with all those cool grinders and sanders on those stands? i see 2 Baldors, 2 Burrkings, 2 sanders and maybe a shaper in the corner. all are on stands like you built for your Parker vise which also looks great BTW.

or if that isn't your shop care to share a few pictures of yours which must be amazing?

no wonder you make those awesome knives you do.

McClean: thanks for posting more pictures and details of you multy tool stand.

All: i have a question for those of you that do this all the time. say i did find a farm with a rusted out or broken disk rototiller attachment how do you get those disks off so you can haul them back home. i'm thinking some of you carry a torch with a couple tanks with oxy/ace in them to cut those apart or do tell please.

That pic is of Matt Walrath's shop. There was a link on GJ somewhere (maybe earlier in this thread?) to a farm/equipment supply store where you can get those discs new at a reasonable price.
 

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I posted this in one of my threads, but thought I'd post it here as well.

It's a HF planishing hammer stand that I bought for about $30.

I'm planning on adding some receiver tubes to hold my shrinker/ stretcher and my pipe vise.

The Craftsman vise will stay mounted as is.

It will live next to my welding table, were the main receiver tube/workstation is.

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Here is a close up of the front and back of my stand. I used a sawzall to cut out an opening in the up-right pipe, before we welded the top on. The back receiver has a small bolt welded in it to help keep other attachments that I add from falling or vibrating out.

I see a lot with that style of base, are they drums off of a semi?
 

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This flame cut steel pedestal was made by my friend Adam, known as the "Barefoot Blacksmith". I think it will make a great display stand for the right vise. I either need to find the base for this one, else find a different really old vise to display on it.

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Lu: thanks for posting that cool looking stand over here. if you really like that little Fulton vise you can pull out those swivel pins and just mount it in those 2 holes since it's a light duty vise anyway. or you are getting quite a selection of other vises that might deserve to be on that stand more.
 

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Lu, that stand is real cool, I would find another vise without the exposed screw though. JMO.
 

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Lu: are you certain the stand is the correct side up in the photo? Seems like it would be awfully top-heavy. I'm probably wrong, just an observation. How much does that beauty weigh? Really sorry to hear about your friend's condition (mentioned in the main Vise forum) but glad he has left some of his incredible work by which you will always remember him. I would say display versus workhorse, that way you can keep it in the house as an art piece and when everyone asks about it you will have a chance to tell them about your awesome friend. Take care, man.
 

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I built a grinder stand for a customer using one of the disc blades for the base. It's very stable. I also put one of those rubber tree rings under the base which does an awesome job of damping out vibrations and made it quieter.
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ALL: one of our members is trying to make a hitch mount workbench to attach to his truck's trailer hitch. sounds like it might be a good idea so here's the link to it and hopefully he'll have some pictures and ideas on his thread or some of you might see this and go to his thread and post your ideas.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291099

anybody have a favorite of all these vise stands or built something that they haven't posted please let us know.

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I thought I should post a picture here too. It's a 3/4hp Craftsman Block Grinder with a Multitool MT362 belt grinder attachment (aka The BlockMeister). I wanted to put it on casters to be able to get this out of the garage and help keep the dust down. The base is filled with sand bags to keep if from being top heavy.

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