The VISES of Garage Journal

[joe.striper]

I wanted to publicly thank Bagged for making sure i saw the listing for the Parker 26x i got today.

6" jaws, 185 lbs, swivel base, a real BEAST of a vise. No cracks, welds, slide and jaws are great. Just a monster. Paid $110 for it, delivered. No pics because I had to dismantle it to move it but I will post it after I'm done with the restoration. A bigger vise than my Parker 976 B.

I will be picking up a reed 107 (7") next week.

 

[bagged89s10]

I wanted to publicly thank Bagged for making sure i saw the listing for the Parker 26x i got today.



6" jaws, 185 lbs, swivel base, a real BEAST of a vise. No cracks, welds, slide and jaws are great. Just a monster. Paid $110 for it, delivered. No pics because I had to dismantle it to move it but I will post it after I'm done with the restoration. A bigger vise than my Parker 976 B.



I will be picking up a reed 107 (7") next week.

Damn it's 185 pounds. I should have bought it. Haha just kidding. I didn't need it and didn't want to try to flip it. So I sent you the listing. Your welcome Joe!


~Veeps

 

[oldldh]

I wanted to publicly thank Bagged for making sure i saw the listing for the Parker 26x i got today.

6" jaws, 185 lbs, swivel base, a real BEAST of a vise. No cracks, welds, slide and jaws are great. Just a monster. Paid $110 for it, delivered. No pics because I had to dismantle it to move it but I will post it after I'm done with the restoration. A bigger vise than my Parker 976 B.

I will be picking up a reed 107 (7") next week.

I'm beginning to think I put my voodoo doll up too soon...

A 107 Reed would absatively, posilutely, float my boat...

A 6" Parker for $ 110.00 delivered is a "You **** Price"...

But...

I ain'ta gonna tell'ya that..Nope I ain'ta gonna!!!

 

[trijeff]

LuMax: Yeah, that thing sure looks a lot bigger than the CL pictures! A lot bigger than 160#, too - I guess it is what va.gman said, the towers must be hollow. Nice score

wrenchguy: Hardy hole in a Rock Island? I'm a rookie but I sure don't think that is factory. Especially since there is no anvil. Did somebody fill it back up with weld or something? It doesn't look like a hole anymore, you can just see where it was. Oh, and how were you talking to this guy a week before this thing was even posted?? You must have large vise ESP

All: A very interesting vise, a Lewis Tool Co. No. 10. REALLY like the jaw swivel method, IMO much better than a pin. But what the heck is that little lever for on the side just above the (broken) swivel lock? Is that a quick release of some type? A unique vise all the way around.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lewis-No-10-vise-4-wide-jaws-swivel-top-jaw-Lewis-tool-Co-/281650834842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4193b2ad9a

 

[Junebuggy]

I appreciate the compliments on my knife craft, fellas and I opened a thread in Fabrication and Techniques called "Knives and Blacksmithing and More" showing a few other pictures and opened the venue for others to share their work also. Thank You!

 

[XCMTB83]

After checking Starrett's website for bench vises I discovered they must not make them anymore. The ebay link reinforces my suspicions. I know this is probably old news to a lot of you. So, when did Starrett quit making bench vises? Is the price of the ebay bench vise about what they were new, or more? I am a machinist myself who owns other Starrett products so I thought it would be cool to have a Starrett bench vise too. Just how hard are they to come by?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-NOS-ST...INISTS-VISE-c-w-SWIVEL-BASE-K20-/171340393961

 

[topop101]

After checking Starrett's website for bench vises I discovered they must not make them anymore. The ebay link reinforces my suspicions. I know this is probably old news to a lot of you. So, when did Starrett quit making bench vises? Is the price of the ebay bench vise about what they were new, or more? I am a machinist myself who owns other Starrett products so I thought it would be cool to have a Starrett bench vise too. Judy how hard they hard to come by?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-NOS-ST...INISTS-VISE-c-w-SWIVEL-BASE-K20-/171340393961

Not sure when they quit making them . But this seller have two. One sold at auction a couple weeks ago and the other one had a BIN price about what they are asking for now. The one at auction sold for around 700. I bailed at 500

 

[oldldh]

After checking Starrett's website for bench vises I discovered they must not make them anymore. The ebay link reinforces my suspicions. I know this is probably old news to a lot of you. So, when did Starrett quit making bench vises? Is the price of the ebay bench vise about what they were new, or more? I am a machinist myself who owns other Starrett products so I thought it would be cool to have a Starrett bench vise too. Judy how hard they hard to come by?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-NOS-ST...INISTS-VISE-c-w-SWIVEL-BASE-K20-/171340393961

Starrett's are available all over the place...

A very good clamper, a 5" 925C would be the thing for 98% of your vise needs...

I have a 925 (Non-Swiveler) that I've got to finnish restoring...

www.kbctools.com

Had some NOS Starretts for sale, I don't know if they still have any, but a 925 was less than $ 500.00...

Ebay and Craigslist have them fairly often at prices that can be a lot less than the one you quoted...

Good Luck on your quest...

 

[joe.striper]

I'm beginning to think I put my voodoo doll up too soon...

A 107 Reed would absatively, posilutely, float my boat...

A 6" Parker for $ 110.00 delivered is a "You **** Price"...

But...

I ain'ta gonna tell'ya that..Nope I ain'ta gonna!!!

Yeah I'm not too excited about the Reed. 7" yes, but light for that size. It is a forged jaw, Non swivel. But it IS 7".

 

[topop101]

Starrett's are available all over the place...

A very good clamper, a 5" 925C would be the thing for 98% of your vise needs...

I have a 925 (Non-Swiveler) that I've got to finnish restoring...

www.kbctools.com

Had some NOS Starretts for sale, I don't know if they still have any, but a 925 was less than $ 500.00...

Ebay and Craigslist have them fairly often at prices that can be a lot less than the one you quoted...

Good Luck on your quest...

I picked up a 614 1/2 for 125 a couple weeks ago so yes they are out there. But something about a new in the box one made me want it enough to drop 5 bills on it .... not 7 thought

 

[jrobb316]

I was conversing with him last week about it. He believes it came with a or someone drilled a hardie hole in it. Anyone got printed info about these?

That is definately a home made hole. I have a 94 and I've seen a 93, 95, and 96. None of those have hardie holes. I've found Rock island literature very hard to find.

 

[joe.striper]

A GJ member picked this vise up for me today. It was listed as a pipe vise. I paid 25.

I've seen similar on here BUT this one is a double swiveler! How cool is that? Maybe OLDH will buy it from me??

Its been a good day....again.

 

[joe.striper]

Anyone know what this vise is? I cannot find anything on it....

 

[demoman]

Yeah I'm not too excited about the Reed. 7" yes, but light for that size. It is a forged jaw, Non swivel. But it IS 7".

The Reed 107 s actually harder to find than a 108 so GO GET IT. I looked a long time to find a good 207 which is where it all began for me. My Dad had one since about 1975 he bought at an auction . He built a whole new screw for it only to realize it had a piece broke out where the nut is dovetailed in the base. I still have it and will take pics. For some reason this was a problem area for early reeds as I have seen others with this area broken out. Anyway years ago I decided I would find him a good one and could not come up with a big vise........ so here we are today.

 

[Nuts]

All: A very interesting vise, a Lewis Tool Co. No. 10. REALLY like the jaw swivel method, IMO much better than a pin. But what the heck is that little lever for on the side just above the (broken) swivel lock? Is that a quick release of some type? A unique vise all the way around.

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That looks like it is the swivel lock, works on the cam principal.
If I'm right the "broken" piece below it won't be threaded, just a pin.

A GJ member picked this vise up for me today. It was listed as a pipe vise. I paid 25.

I've seen similar on here BUT this one is a double swiveler! How cool is that? Maybe OLDH will buy it from me??

Its been a good day....again.

Is that not a form of a pattern vise?


Doug

 

[va.grouseman]

Anyone know what this vise is? I cannot find anything on it....

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Page 1160, post 23183.---Mercury,---Standard,---Metro,---Morgan.---All made by Morgan it looks like.---Information is scarce.

 

[wkndwarrior29]

If there are no cracks or welds, you made a super deal QUOTE]

I inspected them a little more closely and the Morgan looks like this... do the vise experts out there deem this a weld repair?

 

[jakemac]

I inspected them a little more closely and the Morgan looks like this... do the vise experts out there deem this a weld repair?

It looks like one to me. I bet the welder was taught at the "More is Betterer" school of welding.

 

[Craptain]

If there are no cracks or welds, you made a super deal QUOTE]

I inspected them a little more closely and the Morgan looks like this... do the vise experts out there deem this a weld repair?

err! yes.

 

[dwlock]

Hey guys, I may be purchasing a Mac Tools vise that is apparently USA made. Does anyone have any information on them? It's a 5" model, and I think i've read they were rebranded Wiltons. I unfortunately don't have any pictures to provide until I pick it up though.

 

[danstead]

Dan, here's a picture of my 4" c-man... The base measures about 1-1/8" in the front and about 1-1/16" in the back. There's a little gap in mine too, but not nearly as much as yours.

I can't imagine the nut would be for a smaller vise for 2 reasons. First, yours is already a 3.5", anything smaller just isn't nearly as common. Second, the spindle would probably be a different diameter, and since it looks right from the front I can't imagine it would be a replacement too.

I would do as others have mentioned and try shimming. Use some brass or aluminum (or even wood) at first and see WHERE you need to shim it. If you raise it up and shim underneath, you might end up cocking the screw and as you tighten it will bind. Or vise-versa if you shim the angles to keep it fixed as low as possible... Like I said you will just have to experiment and see which combination works best.

If you need more dimensions, don't hesitate to ask (probably best via PM since I don't check the thread but every few days).

Holy Smokes, This thread is awesome but I can hardly keep up! I don't want to forget anyone for their input so I'll say" Thanks so much to all of you"

I measured the base of the spindle nut for the CM 5195 (now that I have it installed correctly) and the bottom front is .942" and the rear base is .956". Estimating the bottom width of the dovetail to be around 1.00" in the main housing

When I lift the nut it seems I have more of a gap in the rear than I do the front, hum -- tapered shim underneath. Don't laugh but my short term fix was adding a modified composite shim used for construction framing! Shim thickness in the front was ~ .090" and ~ .120" in the back x .900" wide.

The spindle nut is now contacting both mating sides of the static housing and moves way less than when it was free floating. Dynamic jaw moves quite well but I think the nut is slightly high in relation to the center of Dynamic jaw thru hole. As suggested, I'm going to try and get an accurate measurement of both and alter the base shim. If needed, I'll add shims on each tapered side.

Still would like to find a replacement spindle nut that is closer to 1.00" - 1.125" on the dovetail base width in the main housing.

Love the images of all the new Vises u guys are picking up!! I'm jealous!

Cheers!

 

[bagged89s10]

Teaser pic. The heatwave up in Connecticut let me try out my first attempt at rustoleum hammered spray paint. Cleaned the grease and oil 2 times with TSP. Wipe it dry. Then I wiped it down with acetone right before I taped it up to paint. I have to say I'm impressed with how this stuff lays down. I threw down a few coats. After 30 minutes it feels like my buddies powder coated suspension parts.

Although I don't know why it's called hammered black. Looks gray to me.






I feel like I should have filled some of the imperfections. Oh well.


~Veeps

 

[flavc3]

Well what do you think guys.......is it worth the 3hr one-way drive...for $50

 

[balane]

A 4 1/2" jaw Craftsman, manufactured by Rock Island that weighs nearly 75 pounds. The price is fantastic but only you can decide if the time in the car is worth it. They are amazingly well built vises that will last decades and decades and decades. For sure I would have a phone conversation with the seller and get every little detail you can regarding its condition and also be certain he'll hold it for you while you drive the 150+ miles.

 

[1NRO]

Nice collection. What are those cast legs from? I'm guessing a flypress stand?

Good eye Fretters, they are off a flypress. It was a fine machine but hogged space, I bought it very cheap and fixed it up nice and sold for good money but the stand stayed with me. Sacrilege I know but I needed a nice mobile work table.
I've a Herbert swiveling pipe vise somewhere, it'll likely get dragged out sometime soon.

 

[1NRO]

Your beater 36 is interesting as it has elements of the old style and new style. Old style base but without the Registered Design marked on it and a new screw.
Are the missing jaw screws 5/16 bsw or 8mm fine?

My Record 36's are shown here http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4696404&postcount=59

An interesting 36 you say! I'm not clued up on the finer details of Records but pleased to hear it's got something about it. The life it had led is testament to the strength and quality, never had a vice so beaten on. Speaking of fine details on Records, any idea on the 114 in my picture that is without a quick release? I thought they all had quick release.
The screws you mention, this is on the 36 or the 46? I've not had a chance to try and remove the one remaining screw on the 46, looking at it I don't fancy my chances of getting it out undamaged.

 

[dutchgray]

1NRO
View media item 47323This is my 114p, for plain screw, There were plain screw versions of a few Record models.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

1NRO: I have an old style 36 and a new style, bought dead cheap as one looked like a boat anchor and the other was covered in weld spatter.

The new style has more reinforcing in the base at the front to add support to the shelf that supports the dynamic jaw, in fact my old vice had this shelf bent down by 2mm which caused a lot of up and down movement of the jaw and misalignment when closed. The new style vice has several bits of extra reinforcing and weighs more than the old.

My question on the screws was actually with regards to the 36, you can still get replacement jaws (about £40) for it and they come with 8mm fine screws, they are a special screw with a very steep taper, my old one needed 5/16 bsw which I had to make.

On to your 46 screws, if you could take a picture of the jaw showing the hole of the missing screw and the remaining screw that would probably answer my questions about the 48. My method for removing jaw screws is to use one of those impact driver screwdrivers, if it doesn't want to shift I'll get the tig welder out and put a small blob of weld on each side of the screw slot, this normally puts enough heat into it to allow it to be removed by the impact driver and the weld can be filed off again.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

1NRO
View media item 47323This is my 114p, for plain screw, There were plain screw versions of a few Record models.

Yep, in fact on a lot of the quick release vices you can see where the P after the model number in the dynamic jaw casting has been crudely ground off at the factory as it's a common casting.




PS I forgot how good your 114 looked DutchGray

PPS Did you notice there is a Record 113 on ebay at the moment? Not seen one of that size come up before.

 

[1NRO]

1NRO
This is my 114p, for plain screw, There were plain screw versions of a few Record models.

"p" for plain, well there you have it

 

[1NRO]

CW I don't know your answers but I'll try and get some time to take a closer look.

Where you buying jaws for £40? I need a set.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

If memory serves correctly, it's a No.10 Steel. Don't hold me to that though. I'll post a photo when I get it. This'll be my first Fortis. On a slightly different note, I've stripped the No.7 down and some of the bits are currently in the vat.

When you post pictures of your No.7 all cleaned up that will probably shame me into doing mine!

 

[CwazyWabbit]

CW I don't know your answers but I'll try and get some time to take a closer look.

Where you buying jaws for £40? I need a set.

There you go http://www.tradetoolshop.com/irwin-...t-pair-jaws-screws-150mm-6in-for-36-vice.html postage brings it up to the 40 quid mark.

The picture on the website is generic so it shows the wrong style screws, but that is where I got mine from.

EDIT: I wonder how similar to the 46 jaws they are?

 

[ritzblitz]

Havent posted on here in a while.

Set of swivel locks for a Reed 4C

 

[CwazyWabbit]

ritzblitz: I love the way the stopends disappear into the nut, very nice

 

[FMC1959]

Well what do you think guys.......is it worth the 3hr one-way drive...for $50

I agree with Balane, very nice vise for $50. The 6 hr round trip is a lot of time and money. Depending on what you are driving, it could be anywhere from $10-$13 per hour, which you kinda of need to figure in the price (unless you have other business in that neck of the woods).

As an option, try calling and see what he would charge to ship it. $50-$70 is your gas money and you save 6 hours of your life, that I am sure your wife can find something for you to do

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Hey guys, I may be purchasing a Mac Tools vise that is apparently USA made. Does anyone have any information on them? It's a 5" model, and I think i've read they were rebranded Wiltons. I unfortunately don't have any pictures to provide until I pick it up though.

Dwlock,
Welcome to the group.
1. Does it look like a Wilton Bullet or mechanic's vise? Can you post a picture of one like yours?
2. How much are you paying for it?

Might be able to give an answer with more information.

 

[mike_paxton]

Joe:

I have had two of those vises and yours is first that i've seen with the double swiveler on it.

Have never been able to determine the actual maker, but I kept one because it does such a good job holding plastic pipe that it found a space to be kept in shop.

Thanks for sharing and now will start looking to see if there are any others like yours out there.

Mike

 

[zkling]

Hey guys, I may be purchasing a Mac Tools vise that is apparently USA made. Does anyone have any information on them? It's a 5" model, and I think i've read they were rebranded Wiltons. I unfortunately don't have any pictures to provide until I pick it up though.

If it is what I'm thinking of they are a rebadged bent steel slide wilton.

Well what do you think guys.......is it worth the 3hr one-way drive...for $50

Yes, IF you know it is not broken or major issues and IF it will be there when you get there. Without those two IFs, then no.

 

[flavc3]

Yeah I'm trying to justify the drive but it's not happening......besides my wife would absolutely kill me. Well hope one comes up close.
Thanks again everyone.