The VISES of Garage Journal

[bagged89s10]

Congrats on the 974. More vise than most homeowners need (just don't tell that to anyone on this thread). I doubt the blue is original, so you could just strip it and paint it, or you could strip it and paint it!

Thanks

What did you paint your 974 with? It looks amazing with the red lettering. I do also like the color of your 204.
I also saw a picture of this nice green 974-1/2. Not sure who's it is.

I have to have it look good in my garage with all the craftsman red though.

I was also kicking around the idea to put one of the round nose spindle assemblies from one of my other Parkers onto the 974. Not sure yet but I do feel the handle looks too short for a vise this size. I like the new handle you put on yours. It fits much better.

Do you know what size/threads the collar bolt it on your Parker 204? I stopped and be hardware store and could not find a match. The guy at the hardware store convinced me it was m8-125 but it's not. It's a hair too big. I just found my pitch gauge and the thread pitch is 20. Are they 5/16-20?



~Veeps

 

[tedsters]

I am on a roll, I finished another one!
That's 2 in 2 days!
Kind of... I actually got it from Nick (Autopts) a while back. He had already done all the work, an excellent job, I might add, thank you Nick!
I just did a color change to match the others.

6-68 REED 1C
Jaws by Kevin Scott

Take care!
ZOOM

Darn nice job that is sweet

 

[topop101]

Bagged is killing me in RI and CT. He made need a 'visit' from some of my 'friends' so he can stop buying MY vises...rat *******. He probably likes swivelin' vises too.

lol... you sound union. ... I have noticed Bagged has been kickin it into gear. Have to say, It's this darn GJ fault.

 

[joe.striper]

Thanks

What did you paint your 974 with? It looks amazing with the red lettering. I do also like the color of your 204.
I also saw a picture of this nice green 974-1/2. Not sure who's it is.


Do you know what size/threads the collar bolt it on your Parker 204? I stopped and be hardware store and could not find a match. The guy at the hardware store convinced me it was m8-125 but it's not. It's a hair too big. I just found my pitch gauge and the thread pitch is 20. Are they 5/16-20?

~Veeps

yes- 5/16ths 20 is the size. I replace every bolt with allen heads and I lubricate with anti seize. Someone 20 or 30 years from now will thank you.

 

[bagged89s10]

Bagged is killing me in RI and CT. He made need a 'visit' from some of my 'friends' so he can stop buying MY vises...rat *******. He probably likes swivelin' vises too.

Haha. I do like the swivelin ones!

yes- 5/16ths 20 is the size. I replace every bolt with allen heads and I lubricate with anti seize. Someone 20 or 30 years from now will thank you.

Thanks. I'm going to search online now for some fillister head close matches. I like the slotted look.


~Veeps

 

[zoomieport]

Darn nice job that is sweet

Thank you, Sir!

 

[JZiggy]

LOL!

I'm actually an Atlanta resident, temporarily relocated to the SFO bay area.

Back at GA Tech we would often refer to the unit of power "stone furlong per fortnight." It just felt right to measure that old Paramo vise in stone.

One stone = 14 pounds *avoirdupois* in fact...

 

[tedsters]

wow its been a while since i have been allowed to do anything since my rotator cuff surgery on my right shoulder, i just got the go ahead today from my Dr. that i can lift 5 to 10lbs straight up with elbow to my side, now i can lift with my other arm a little more now i can start getting something done here i am gettin things piled up on me.
BUT i did find a couple parkers Sat. and messed up on the purchase of the 474 by draging my feet but i did get a pristine 953 1/2 and a 974 1/2 both in really good shape, never did an electrolisis but i have six vises to do up and am gonna try it. Sorry for the speech but i had to vent.

 

[bigcaddy]

Bigcaddy's (I think it was BC?) $5 baby bullet has to rank with the best deals of all time too...IMO

Yes that was me. 5.00 seems to be the going rate for those mini bullets around here. I think one of my first dozen posts on GJ included another mini bullet on a Powr arm base for 5.00

 

[tool_scrounge]

Let me say you have been warned...I AM SOOO PISSED AT FEDEX AND THEIR DECEPTIVE SHIPPING PRACTICES!

Last week I shipped a package through FEDEX to Zoomieport. It weighed 105 lbs and I used a FEDEX box which measured 14X14X22". I went online, added all the information listed above, gave an accurate address, weight and dimensions, they gave me a price ($84.99) and I delivered the package to FEDEX's service center directly. Today I went into my online bank account and saw that FEDEX charged me $95.37???!!!??? So I called FEDEX and after 20 minutes they told me that the difference was a $9.00 surcharge for the package. WHAT I ASKED?? WHY? I gave you all the information you asked for, did I mis-weigh it or mis-measure it? No FEDEX tells me but it was a heavy package. Again I asked them was it an odd shape (I knew it wasn't)? No they said it was just heavy. That's when I lost it. I went into their shipping software and clearly put in that it weighed 105lbs there was no surprise there. FEDEX told me their shipping software is an 'estimate'! ESTIMATE? REALLY? Hell the Effed up Post Office can give me an estimate that is within a penny and that's a quasi-governmental agency

Personally I think this is a FEDEX scam. They charged me over a 10% surcharge for no good reason. They did NOT disclose this surcharge upfront even though they had all the information to do so. I WILL NEVER USE FEDEX AGAIN. EVER!

I have had the same problem. It makes it hard to quote someone shipping costs when what FED-EX's software estimates and what they charge is different. I try not to use them any more.

 

[tool_scrounge]

First post, here goes!

After exploring Wilton, Parker, Erie Tool Works, Prentiss, Columbian, etc. I've developed a fixation on the vintage English vises (vices), especially Woden. Current collection includes a 186B/0, 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5 -- I'll post about that later.

Last week I had the opportunity to pick up neat Paramo No.6 with a swivel base. It looks like it's led a charmed life and it weighs an honest 7 stone. Here it is after some cleaning and wirebrushing the bare metal areas:

It states "5/69" suggesting it was made in 1969. Have other Paramo owners found this stamp here?

Yes, that is where I have seen them in the past.

 

[KMScott]

Thank you, Sir!

For some reason I chose Rustoleum Hammered Brown for the Reed Combo's.
I know it is not historically correct, but I like it...

Nice job Zoomie, You have been busy. I like the color too.

tedsters, nice pickup of the two Parkers, how is the serrations on the jaws, they look like they aught to be in excellent shape.

 

[tedsters]

Nice job Zoomie, You have been busy. I like the color too.

tedsters, nice pickup of the two Parkers, how is the serrations on the jaws, they
look like they aught to be in excellent shape.

the serrations are better on the 4-1/2 which seems odd if you seen them in person the 3-1/2 has almost zero backlash i have never seen a parker this tight i don't think its hardly been used theres no dings in the handle i think i may have a hard time giving it up but i think theres a lot of debri in the jaws such as grease and metals on the 4-1/2 there was a lot of ugly grease in the 4-1/2 which i think helped preserve it

 

[harvar0921]

Does anyone have a clue about this vise? No foundry stamp, hallmark, or the like. all I know is that it weighs around 100 pounds and the mounting assembly looks really cool. that's all. Any help would help.

 

[wmrra13]

First post, here goes!

After exploring Wilton, Parker, Erie Tool Works, Prentiss, Columbian, etc. I've developed a fixation on the vintage English vises (vices), especially Woden. Current collection includes a 186B/0, 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5 -- I'll post about that later.

Last week I had the opportunity to pick up neat Paramo No.6 with a swivel base. It looks like it's led a charmed life and it weighs an honest 7 stone. Here it is after some cleaning and wirebrushing the bare metal areas:

The seller told me that he had owned it for over 40 years and had bought it from a neighbor that had owned it for about 30 years. This puts it's birthday at 1945, which jives with the account that Paramo started making vises in 1940 after the Record factory was bombed. Here's where it gets tricky -- after wirebrushing the fixed jaw I found this stamp:

It states "5/69" suggesting it was made in 1969. Have other Paramo owners found this stamp here?

Sweet vise!

 

[BioNerd]

Do you guys mind quoting me to tell me how old this guys are? Maybe to encourage some resto?

Thanks

 

[CwazyWabbit]

......I also have a Record that I have been itching to get to because of what I hear about them. I will say I use my Record woodworking vise on every bench vise that I restore. I really like the quick release and also respect the quality that the English used in this vise.

Being terminally nosey which record vices do you have Sir?

 

[Nuts]

Interesting hand vise on Fleabay.

What was the intended purpose of the leather strap?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUBS-Antiq...428?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f9bf419c

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Interesting hand vise on Fleabay.

What was the intended purpose of the leather strap?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUBS-Antiq...428?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f9bf419c

I believe it's an old telegraph linesmans vice.

There's a similar one amongst the linesman tools on this page of one of my old tool catalogues.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

I'm only guessing but I imagine the strap could be wrapped around you (or part of you) to allow you to tension cables with it and have both hands free to terminate the cables.

 

[Fretters]

Reed 104: My First Vise Restoration.

Nicely done.

 

[Fretters]

First post, here goes!

After exploring Wilton, Parker, Erie Tool Works, Prentiss, Columbian, etc. I've developed a fixation on the vintage English vises (vices), especially Woden. Current collection includes a 186B/0, 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5 -- I'll post about that later.

Welcome, and you have good taste in vices. You might want to look for the range of Woden's which had quick release too. You'll really like those.


p.s: Generally easier to quote weight in lb. We usually reserve stone for measuring a persons weight.

 

[Zippercat]

the serrations are better on the 4-1/2 which seems odd if you seen them in person the 3-1/2 has almost zero backlash i have never seen a parker this tight i don't think its hardly been used theres no dings in the handle i think i may have a hard time giving it up but i think theres a lot of debri in the jaws such as grease and metals on the 4-1/2 there was a lot of ugly grease in the 4-1/2 which i think helped preserve it

 

[drivesitfar]

Bio: you red one is a 70's Craftsman and probably best to show pictures of both sides of the vise when asking if you can.

the second vise is a 150 pound Rock Island with a Birtman Electric brass badge on it so late 1950's. it looks like the dynamic jaw was broken at one time because it has a huge braze or weld holding it back together. it probably works fine or you tell us if it does.

Nuts: interesting with the strap

CW: amazing that you had a catalog page for the little vise with the strap at your fingertips. i think those little vises would be great for using small items and sending them into a wire wheel on a bench grinder too.

 

[Craptain]

Drives. That is exactly where my newly acquired hand vise lives, after getting a good "wiring" itself.

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[vintage nut]

Got a bit of heat treating to do today, but I might start my last vise that could use restoration today. The record I got from my highschool for 15 bucks.
It's either work on a vise, or cover the driveway in atf changing the fluid in my truck
I'm kinda thinking vise

you can never have too many tools

 

[CwazyWabbit]

.....

CW: amazing that you had a catalog page for the little vise with the strap at your fingertips. i think those little vises would be great for using small items and sending them into a wire wheel on a bench grinder too.

I just happened to remember it and the book was sitting next to me so I snapped a piccy.

 

[McBrownie]

Thanks. I'm going to search online now for some fillister head close matches. I like the slotted look.
~Veeps

Here are some more detailed measurements for the collar screw on my Parker 203.

View media item 49830

 

[KMScott]

Being terminally nosey which record vices do you have Sir?

Cwazy, The Record #3 is keeping my Prentiss #58 company and the Paramo 6" is in line for restoration, already made the handle for the Paramo and both need new jaws. I bought them just to see the quality, feel and also wanted to see how the English built vices (vises)

 

[CwazyWabbit]

We'll have to find a cheap way to send you one of the 11* or 3* series vices as they're better quality

 

[PghJKB]

Do any of the Wilton experts out there know the dimensions of the Wilton #4 - height, length, width, of the body and length of just the lead screw?

Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

JKB

 

[Maui]

JZiggy, do you have a Woden 186B/00 vise? It's the smallest one they made. You can see one in this discussion:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287018&highlight=woden+vise

 

[tedsters]

sorry if it bothers you that much zip it and skip it,never was much for grammer or takin pics sorry dude but u asked for it....oops sorry,
ha. BTW your explanation was loud but taken well

 

[Nuts]

I believe it's an old telegraph linesmans vice.

There's a similar one amongst the linesman tools on this page of one of my old tool catalogues.

I do believe you found what I wanted to know.
My guess is that it is used for keeping a hold
of tools and various small bits. The guys below
take a dim view of testing their hard hats.
And it's a long climb down the pole to get it.


Nuts

 

[JZiggy]

Hey Maui,

I have seen the 186B/00 Wodens but havent gotten one. I do feel lucky to have picked up a 186B/0 with a swivel base the other day.

There seems to be a lot of interest in the Wodens here. I'll have to post up about that more soon...

 

[dutchgray]

Some times thing just go bad.
View media item 49835View media item 49834View media item 49833It was a really nice Parkinson No5 3 1/4" until the delivery Muppets managed to break it, it was well packed too compared to many I have had. At least it was very cheap and can be fixed with out effecting function but it is a tad annoying.

 

[trijeff]

Does anyone have a clue about this vise? No foundry stamp, hallmark, or the like. all I know is that it weighs around 100 pounds and the mounting assembly looks really cool. that's all. Any help would help.

Hi harvar,

I'm no expert but search for Walworth or Grinnell ... the Walworth looks here looks really close to yours but doesn't have the swooping cutout in the slide. There are other differences, too, but I'm thinking those manufacturers made similar looking vises so perhaps yours is an earlier/different model.



No matter what kind, pretty cool vise!! Except for the exposed lead screw Just kidding ... kind of. If you do much reading on this thread you will soon come to learn that exposed screw vises are a PITA to maintain because all of the shavings from whatever you are working on will get embedded in the lead screw grease and then wear away at the screw and/or nut, which will then introduce slop and lower gripping power. drivesitfar and other members have mentioned perhaps putting an oiled cloth over the screw once the piece is set in the jaws but before you start to work.

Lastly, welcome to the forum!! But beware, vises are addictive and before you know it you might have a whole herd. I joined in January owning one vise and looking to get just one more ... instead, I now have eight including two absolute monsters. But really, that's small potatoes to some members here who will pick up that many in just a day or two. You have been warned

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Some times thing just go bad.
View media item 49835View media item 49834View media item 49833It was a really nice Parkinson No5 3 1/4" until the delivery Muppets managed to break it, it was well packed too compared to many I have had. At least it was very cheap and can be fixed with out effecting function but it is a tad annoying.

FFS They must have dropped that from a height to do that.

 

[dutchgray]

Indeed, there is a tiny old chip in the casting which is where its gone from, its just a shame as it was the nicest I have had, original paint and everything.

 

[vintage nut]

I have done repairs like that by groving it out, and preheating well, and brazing with an oxy acetylene torch. One trick is putting the casting on a bbq if you don't have a weed burner torch. Cooling slowly helps a lot too. Like wraping it in a fireproof blanket and insulation after brazing while it cools.
Best of luck, hope you can fix it without any surprises! If you groove it out enough and sand the braze smooth before painting, you might not be able to tell it had broke.

you can never have too many tools