Fretters
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The irony of an American picking on the, correct, spelling of an Englishman never ceases to amuse me.
Vices it is old chap, bar where you're from. 
The VISES of Garage Journal
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The irony of an American picking on the, correct, spelling of an Englishman never ceases to amuse me.
Vices it is old chap, bar where you're from. CwazyWabbit
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I have three 8" Record vices at the moment, a No. 48, a 114 and a Leader 16. A 518 or 518 1/2 or even the never before seen 508 1/2 would be brilliant but I do fear they are unicorns ..... there has been a fleeting glimpse of a 518 before but nobody knows where it is now.
I do like to know what was made and when so I don't accidentally walk past one
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Fretters
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IMHO, about the best approach with a swivel base.
That's an unusual looking vice Joe.Fretters
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I do like the to know what was made and when so I don't accidentally walk past one
That's the marker of an addictive collector.
IMHO, regardless of what type/model it is, if you can walk past or view one without it taking your fancy straight off, it's rarely one for the collection. That's why my collection is a bit eclectic. Almost every one has been bought due to the simple curio, drool or look factor more than anything else. CwazyWabbit
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I watched 3 of those instrument vices sell the other day and couldn't believe how much they sold for considering they are little more than a g-clamp with a hand vice bolted to it :-/
Will be interesting to see what is in your eclipse catalogue when it turns up.
That bloke with the Swindens has a 114 for 4 ton :-/ that's optimistic to say the least ....
drivesitfar [B said:Tedsters[/B]: so is that your first Craftsman 519x vise with that 5195 or did you already own a 5197 to keep it company? nice looking and i bet you like the quality on those. I'm still researching the maker of them and Balane had a good name for the company a while back that included Reed, Rock Island, Columbian and Starrett.
drives
this is my first 5195, I have a 5197 awaiting my arrival.
i had a member PM me about my 5195, i offered to take his 5196 off his hands but no response
I need a 5196 and a 98 nowI got lucky on the 5195 i guess i should say Blessed
Fretters
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Nice.
That red lettering works well. The "Made in the USA" sticker looks way out of character for it though.Fretters
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If I'm thinking of the correct one, he's also been trying to sell that Swindens for well over a year now. Wonder if he'll ever drop the price. Measurements seem wrong too, from memory. Don't think they ever did a 5" vice?
CwazyWabbit
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Fretters: The Parkinson Ball Base Vise turned up today, I had to do a bit of straightening to the locking cam and a few other bits but it's amazing how solid it locks up
drivesitfar/balane
heres a link that http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2308593 outlaw sent me i had the same question who made the CM 5195,6,7,8
heres a link that http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2308593 outlaw sent me i had the same question who made the CM 5195,6,7,8
CwazyWabbit
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Yep, same guy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swindens-revolving-head-bench-vice-5-4-jaws-/231531401518
The pipe jaws are certainly bigger than on my 4" Swindens, shame the guys photography is as bad a Swindens casting quality or we would be able to read the size off the casting ....
balane
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I agree somewhat with that. It's a simple matter for the new owner to peel it off if they don't like it though.Nice.
Fretters
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Fretters: The Parkinson Ball Base Vise turned up today, I had to do a bit of straightening to the locking cam and a few other bits but it's amazing how solid it locks up
Rub it in, why don't you.
Shedloads of photo's of that one, (including something to give an idea of approx. size, as I've never been able to figure out how big/small those things are from photo's), would be lovely. What's the setup on the locking mechanism/ball with those? I've always been intrigued by the design, but never seen the gubbins as yet.I bet you must be grinning like a Cheshire Cat with that one. That vice is pretty much my personal Unicorn, so I know I would be in your shoes.
Fretters
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Was wondering if it was a peelable one without it leaving a blank square of metal underneath by pulling the paint off.
That truly is nigh on a perfect colour combo you picked for that one. KMScott
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Balane, I like the Made In USA Sticker you put on your Parker. Again nice job.
CwazyWabbit
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Fretters: Here you go ....
Last picture is the bent cam pin, it's bent because the locating grub screw was missing allowing the handle to come out partially and then someone appears to have hammered it. It's been straightened now.
Last picture is the bent cam pin, it's bent because the locating grub screw was missing allowing the handle to come out partially and then someone appears to have hammered it. It's been straightened now.
i am surprised the 8in columbian is still there it looks pretty clean
CwazyWabbit
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That looked pretty much unused Tedsters
i was gonna pull the trigger and snoozed, i should have just gave her the $300
that vise was clean, i hope someone on here got it.
Fretters
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Cheers CW. You're a star.
I've been trying to figure out for yonks how they did the position locking on those. All is now clear. That's an absolutely pearling vice. 454ragtop
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Great eye Mark! I happen to have a couple 5244's, so tried them on one, fit perfect. The funny thing is, I realized after, the seller of both sets of jaws was the same guy I bought the 5244 off a year ago.
Another vise picked this weekend was this Dunlap 5239, so I tried the other set of pipe jaws on that one, fit pretty well, although they seemed like they might be a tad big for that vise, don't fit as perfect as the others do on the 5244. The 5239 came from a different seller, so there is practically no chance of them being born together.
Lastly. are 3 pics of a small, 3-1/2" vise, cast "Made in USA", but no maker, maybe was on a sticker in the recess on the other side, but gone now. Thinking maybe Columbian or Craftsman with that shade of blue on the bottom? Has a shop made replacement swivel lock handle, but was cheap. so I grabbed it.
Jim
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Fretters
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Honestly, what're you lot like. You'll be fitting air horns which play Dixie to a Model T next.
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trijeff
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A ridiculous price, but you sure don't see a 5.5" Reed double-swiveler available very often: eBay listing
Mark in Indiana
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IMHO, about the best approach with a swivel base.
Fretter's:
The American Scale 77h is a pivot jaw vise. I'm interested because I have a 75h with 3.5" jaws.
balane
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And it was somebody we know.
PS. Not me but I'll let him tell you himself. It couldn't be in better hands.
Fretters
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Any chance you could pop a photo of yours up Mark? Those do look quite a sturdy vice with the squat, bulky form.
balane
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Rainy day, too wet for the stump so an indoor shot will have to do. I did get the 3 1/2" Columbian combination vise finished.. 203½ Went with Hammered Gray on it. This is a really nice vise in my opinion.
I'd take this vise over a Wilton C0 any day of the week.
The last photo is for Fretters.
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I'd take this vise over a Wilton C0 any day of the week.
The last photo is for Fretters.
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Turbo_Scott
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I've been lurking for a while now on GJ especially in this thread. All of the great restorations inspired me so I have been searching on CL for a vise to restore. I found this Prentiss 19 1/2 last week.
I haven't seen one with a Bakelite knob for the lock pin before. I'm not sure if it is original.
I kind of failed as a restore project though. It really just needed a cleaning and I can't bring myself to paint it.
I haven't seen one with a Bakelite knob for the lock pin before. I'm not sure if it is original.
I kind of failed as a restore project though. It really just needed a cleaning and I can't bring myself to paint it.
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454ragtop
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I've been lurking for a while now on GJ especially in this thread. All of the great restorations inspired me so I have been searching on CL for a vise to restore. I found this Prentiss 19 1/2 last week.
I haven't seen one with a Bakelite knob for the lock pin before. I'm not sure if it is original.
I kind of failed as a restore project though. It really just needed a cleaning and I can't bring myself to paint it.
Welcome, Nice double swiveler, and pretty rare too, being a Prentiss without any cracks. I thought I had one, but found one of the jaw inserts cracked, go figure. Nice job on the clean up, don't feel bad about not painting it, as they say in the classic car world "They're only original once, they can be restored a 100 times".
Jim
And it was somebody we know.
PS. Not me but I'll let him tell you himself. It couldn't be in better hands.
i had my chance i let it go, i am glad it was someone we know they got a great vise
McBrownie
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I've been lurking for a while now on GJ especially in this thread. All of the great restorations inspired me so I have been searching on CL for a vise to restore. I found this Prentiss 19 1/2 last week.
I haven't seen one with a Bakelite knob for the lock pin before. I'm not sure if it is original.
I kind of failed as a restore project though. It really just needed a cleaning and I can't bring myself to paint it.
Nice find and great move not reprinting it. It looks like it still has the original japanning on it. That knob isn't original, but probably works way better than the original plunger. I would also say that your vise is pushing 100 years old. Congrats! Now put it back to work.
joe.striper
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Joe.striper NOT joe.stripper. ..jesus..
My American Scale 77N has 4.5" jaws. I believe its headed to VA.
jakemac
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I kind of failed as a restore project though. It really just needed a cleaning and I can't bring myself to paint it.
Don't sweat it. You did a great job cleaning it up. Now slap a few coats of Boiled Linseed Oil on it to keep the rust away, mount it to your bench, and enjoy using it.
454ragtop
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A few more pics from the swap meet this weekend, first is an Athol 623-1/2, with a fresh Krylon rebuild. Looks to be in pretty good shape, hopefully no surprises under that paint. Next is a Wilton 645, real good condition. Then a group photo of the new additions all together.
Last 3 pics are for Mike (wrenchguy). Bought this cool C clamp, never saw one like it before, took me a minute to even figure out what I was looking at. It works slick, you turn the clamp post about 90 degrees, slide it to the desired height, and turn it back so the teeth engage. final tightening is done with the screw in the side, which is missing its tommy bar, will have to fabricate a new one. Made by the Grand Co.
Jim
Last 3 pics are for Mike (wrenchguy). Bought this cool C clamp, never saw one like it before, took me a minute to even figure out what I was looking at. It works slick, you turn the clamp post about 90 degrees, slide it to the desired height, and turn it back so the teeth engage. final tightening is done with the screw in the side, which is missing its tommy bar, will have to fabricate a new one. Made by the Grand Co.
Jim
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Rainy day, too wet for the stump so an indoor shot will have to do. I did get the 3 1/2" Columbian combination vise finished.. 203½ Went with Hammered Gray on it. This is a really nice vise in my opinion.
I'd take this vise over a Wilton C0 any day of the week.
The last photo is for Fretters.
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i have two of them in the older CM Crown logo and they are a really nice vise,
BTW i know who got the 508. i am glad he grabbed it,
you are sure cranking out the vises good to see someone is getting something accomplished
va.grouseman
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I believe someone posted this Oliva a couple weeks ago.---First one I've seen.---Got to add it to the index.---Nice looking vise.---Description says it weighs 2 1/4 tons.---They really compressed the nodules in that one.---That's got to be a record.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131480633573?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131480633573?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Fretters
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That's got to be a record.
Nah, it's definitely an Oliva.
The last photo is for Fretters.
Right; that's it. I'm slapping photo's of the Queen on mine now.
Fretters
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It's only taken me around twenty years to get around to sorting this one. My own bench vice. Realised it looked a bit minging and could do with a bit of TLC when I did that side by side of it with the cleaned up 8A the other week, so it's had a fettle. The gratuituous before shots.
No surprises as to which colour I went with for it.
Chucked this together the other day to make painting the vices a bit easier, with the bench generally being a bit cluttered. It's mainly made from some bits of an old dining table which our Gert cadged off a neighbour then decided she didn't want, so I ended up stuck with all the bits from it. Bottom chipboard box is something I fabbed up years ago for a power supply and never ended up using, so that got collared as a base.
p.s: Yes, I know my workshop is a cluttered tip.
My own bench vice. Realised it looked a bit minging and could do with a bit of TLC when I did that side by side of it with the cleaned up 8A the other week, so it's had a fettle. The gratuituous before shots.
No surprises as to which colour I went with for it.
Chucked this together the other day to make painting the vices a bit easier, with the bench generally being a bit cluttered. It's mainly made from some bits of an old dining table which our Gert cadged off a neighbour then decided she didn't want, so I ended up stuck with all the bits from it. Bottom chipboard box is something I fabbed up years ago for a power supply and never ended up using, so that got collared as a base.
p.s: Yes, I know my workshop is a cluttered tip.
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