The VISES of Garage Journal
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silver98z71
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Here is my pair of vises. Columbian 606 and D45. I have no idea their age, but can only presume old. The 606 I bought last week and already love it. Just need to formulate a plan to mount it and be able to utilize it like it should be. The D45 I was given by my father when I first bought my house/shop; it's just lag bolted to my workbench. I will probably re-mount to it's own stand and allow it to be mobile for light duty use.
Any information on the age of either will be greatly appreciated. The D45 I presume is pretty old, some of the other D45s on the net have 5-1/2" cast into the dynamic jaw; this one only has D45. Also I find it strange that most other D45s have screw on jaw inserts, and mine doesn't even have holes for screws. Anybody have an idea how to toss some inserts on that can take some abuse? The 606 is probably as old as, if not older than the D45; I got it from my parents' neighbor along with a lot of really old tools.
Any information on the age of either will be greatly appreciated. The D45 I presume is pretty old, some of the other D45s on the net have 5-1/2" cast into the dynamic jaw; this one only has D45. Also I find it strange that most other D45s have screw on jaw inserts, and mine doesn't even have holes for screws. Anybody have an idea how to toss some inserts on that can take some abuse? The 606 is probably as old as, if not older than the D45; I got it from my parents' neighbor along with a lot of really old tools.
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Looks good.Any photo's of it beforehand?
Thanks guys. I thought I had an original pic from the craigslist ad, but I guess I deleted it. I'll be sure to keep plenty before and afters on the next one. I've got the vise bug now...
drivesitfar
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Silver: I see two holes for jaw screws that are either plugged with old broken off screws or some other material on your dad's old Columbian vise. Several members here can make you a new pair if you ask and provide measurement.not sure cost or there were a lot of those vises made and maybe you can find a used set. Looks ok other than missing jaws. You big 6 incher will need maybe a heavier bench to mount it on or you'll need to bolt bench to studs or floor.
zoomieport
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We just had an EARTHQUAKE IN MICHIGAN, I hope my vises are ok!!!
Outlawmws
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Looks like it was a 4.0 Barely enough to wake a person up... 
zoomieport
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Looks like it was a 4.0 Barely enough to wake a person up...
HAHA!
They taught us what to do in case of a tornado (an F-3 came straight through town 5-13-80), but no one ever taught us a thing about earthquakes!
joe.striper
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It's a Wilton Joe...
Wow, what a beatdown...
you have to admit it doesn't have an anvil so I was thrown a bit.silver98z71
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Upon further examination I too see blemishes where screw holes would be, both jaws look that way and seem almost welded shut, not quite broken screws. Guess I'll start searching for inserts.
Mounting the 606 is troubling. I plan to build a steel work bench similar to Steve-O's, as I am again out of toolbox drawer-space and am not too fond of this wooden bench. Hopefully a 10' steel tubing bench will be heavy enough to allow the big vise to be securely mounted (and me to put the whammy to it).
Outlawmws
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Wow, what a beatdown...
Hey, you left yourself wide open for that one!
Outlawmws
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Silver, for a lighter vise like that I'd make some smooth jaws out of some harder aluminum alloy. Straight drill and countersink for mounting holes, once you get the screw holes unplugged. (easy out?)
FMC1959
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Looks like it was a 4.0 Barely enough to wake a person up...
If it wasn't for all of the vises in Zoomie's workshop, keeping the ground settled, it would have been much worse
oldldh
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If it wasn't for all of the vises in Zoomie's workshop, keeping the ground settled, it would have been much worse
FMC1959
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Here's to the next 1000
This thread started back in Oct 2009 and got to 1000 in just under 5 years. A 1000 pages is quite an accomplishment on any forum. Kevin's quote above was on page 1000 back in Aug, 9 months ago, and we are just a biscuit away from 1500.
The popularity of vises is really something
joe.striper
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please everyone please send your good thoughts my way. a guy called me about a tool I'm selling and I told him I restored vises. He said that he wished he met me this morning because HE HAD JUST DELIVERED THE VICE PICTURED BELOW TO THE LOCAL SCRAP YARD!! A FREAKIN PARKER 58 ON A CUSTOM BASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
He knows the owner and he said he'd go there first thing Monday to retrieve it if possible. It is 5 miles from me and it has been in his family for years.
Oh Jesus I'm dying here, DYING I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
He knows the owner and he said he'd go there first thing Monday to retrieve it if possible. It is 5 miles from me and it has been in his family for years.
Oh Jesus I'm dying here, DYING I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Outlawmws
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Holy effing hell why are people so stupid? Hope you can save that one Joe!
jakemac
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Joe - It's going to be a VERY long weekend.
I'll start my prayer for you now.
"Hail Columbian, full of vise. Hollow be thy towers. ................................"
I'll start my prayer for you now.
"Hail Columbian, full of vise. Hollow be thy towers. ................................"
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bigcaddy
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please everyone please send your good thoughts my way. a guy called me about a tool I'm selling and I told him I restored vises. He said that he wished he met me this morning because HE HAD JUST DELIVERED THE VICE PICTURED BELOW TO THE LOCAL SCRAP YARD!! A FREAKIN PARKER 58 ON A CUSTOM BASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
He knows the owner and he said he'd go there first thing Monday to retrieve it if possible. It is 5 miles from me and it has been in his family for years.
Oh Jesus I'm dying here, DYING I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell him if he wants to atone for his sins, he has to get you the Parker and relinquish custody the Simplex I see on the workbench on right side of the picture
bigcaddy
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please everyone please send your good thoughts my way. a guy called me about a tool I'm selling and I told him I restored vises. He said that he wished he met me this morning because HE HAD JUST DELIVERED THE VICE PICTURED BELOW TO THE LOCAL SCRAP YARD!! A FREAKIN PARKER 58 ON A CUSTOM BASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
He knows the owner and he said he'd go there first thing Monday to retrieve it if possible. It is 5 miles from me and it has been in his family for years.
Oh Jesus I'm dying here, DYING I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Hello, is this United Airlines? "Yes." "I need a plane ticket for your redeye to Boston.....
bigcaddy
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So a while back I ended up with a Wilton 400S that was in need of a serious overhaul. Since I already have one, it's going to be a gift for a friend on mine. The paint was bad, decals were missing, etc. but it's a great fixer-upper.
I've already welded up 2 holes made in the jaw towers (they were drilled into the jaw insert pin cavities) and given it some fresh paint. The decal has been covered by our own Thundermug and today I turned out some lockdowns.
I'll finish them on Monday when I can get my "mushrooming" jig set up and give them the correct shape on the ends.
The original lockdown is in the middle
I've already welded up 2 holes made in the jaw towers (they were drilled into the jaw insert pin cavities) and given it some fresh paint. The decal has been covered by our own Thundermug and today I turned out some lockdowns.
I'll finish them on Monday when I can get my "mushrooming" jig set up and give them the correct shape on the ends.
The original lockdown is in the middle
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bigcaddy
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joe.striper
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Tell him if he wants to atone for his sins, he has to get you the Parker and relinquish custody the Simplex I see on the workbench on right side of the picture
I called him, he's selling me that smaller vise for scrap price. he said it needs work. good catch. thanks
454ragtop
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More importantly, what about the press? He can scrap that this way if he likes.
Jim
joe.striper
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It was a Dake. 1944 vintage. He cut it and scrapped it.
He loved it. But couldn't move it.
It was a Dake. 1944 vintage. He cut it and scrapped it.
He loved it. But couldn't move it.
****, I hope you're able to save the Parker.
Picked this up the other day. I posted it in it's own thread...but besides a few nice comments...it didn't get much love...
Figure I'll add it to the "pile" here...
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joe.striper
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****, I hope you're able to save the Parker.
Picked this up the other day. I posted it in it's own thread...but besides a few nice comments...it didn't get much love...
Figure I'll add it to the "pile" here...
I picked up a York 125 last week as well. Lovely vises. Yours looks nice and clean.
Thanks..it still has a YORK label on the front of it.
How were you able to determine it's a 125? I can't find any model number on mine.
KMScott
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125 is in millimeters, comes out to 4.920 in English.
Fretters
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As Kevin says, the York model numbers, (on the later models, which I think started around 1974, if I recall correctly), denote their jaw width. Yours predates those.
Smokeshow69
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please everyone please send your good thoughts my way. a guy called me about a tool I'm selling and I told him I restored vises. He said that he wished he met me this morning because HE HAD JUST DELIVERED THE VICE PICTURED BELOW TO THE LOCAL SCRAP YARD!! A FREAKIN PARKER 58 ON A CUSTOM BASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
He knows the owner and he said he'd go there first thing Monday to retrieve it if possible. It is 5 miles from me and it has been in his family for years.
Oh Jesus I'm dying here, DYING I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh the humanity
Why do people do stupid stuff like that with usable tools?? I hope he did not procreate in order to pass the idiot gene down to his kids?? Why would you not advertise it before you can it ?trijeff
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Sometimes it really is as easy as 1-2-3
twertsy
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Snagged this for $20 yesterday. Who makes/made them for SO? Edit: Oh, and where can I get the jaw plate?
joe.striper
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Snagged this for $20 yesterday. Who makes/made them for SO? Edit: Oh, and where can I get the jaw plate?
Thats a Wilton Tradesman. Kevin Scott , who is on this boardca ton, is where you get the jaws.
At $20 that is a 'you ****' price . This exact vise was my first restoration
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twertsy
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Awesome, thank you Joe!
Picked this up the other day. I posted it in it's own thread...but besides a few nice comments...it didn't get much love...
Figure I'll add it to the "pile" here...
Just noticed that the jaws have grooves nearly identical to early Wiltons. Is it possible that when Wilton copied the York vise for their original "Bullet" they even copied the grooved jaws?
Mark in Indiana
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Hey Silver,
Sorry for the late post. Looks like a good, versatile collection you have.
I'm going to take a wild guess at your vises.
606: I'm guessing the 50s or 60s. Based on the overall style, squared end lead screw at the handle and the embellishments. I can't see the embellishments very well in the picture, but the "Columbian" name looks straight.
D45: I'm guessing that it was made in the 70s. Based on the overall style and the more pronounced "T" styled jaws.
Dunlap vise info please
Bought this vise at a garage sale. paid $5. I am working on my second YOU ****. 3.5 inch. Can anyone tell me about it. How old is it? Are all Dunlap vises made in the USA? It does not say " Made In USA" anywhere. Should have taken some pix before I took it apart to clean it. Thanks Jim
Bought this vise at a garage sale. paid $5. I am working on my second YOU ****. 3.5 inch. Can anyone tell me about it. How old is it? Are all Dunlap vises made in the USA? It does not say " Made In USA" anywhere. Should have taken some pix before I took it apart to clean it. Thanks Jim
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Outlawmws
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Dunlap was a trade name for Sears, just like Craftsman but without the warranty.
More on Craftsman Vises here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2308593
More on Craftsman Vises here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2308593