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All Armstrong Maxx ratchets now 88 teeth, including locking flex ratchets

Nickmm

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Nice to see this out. This makes armstrong finally a viable alternative, IMO. the 60-tooth is rather loud, though, compared to a Snapon. Not that it matters too much, but I notice my matco/armstrong 60/88s are really loud, the SO is quiet. Same with my blue-point ratcheting wrenches, which are taiwan, quiet as can be, after over 5 years with them.

Cheers on the new armstrong stuff.
 
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HammerRed

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Why doesn't the flex count? It works exactly the same and means you don't need multiple tools that serve the same purpose.

Its not as strong in high torque applications. Mine are developing quite a bit of play in the flex joint, also the locking groves are getting worn/smashed. Its an awesome tool, not trying to rag on it. I use mine every day. To me, the flex is more about access than strength. Also im a member here on this forum because i like multiple tools that serve the same purpose. Nobody else wants to see a long handled MAXX ratchet? :headscrat
 

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Its not as strong in high torque applications. Mine are developing quite a bit of play in the flex joint, also the locking groves are getting worn/smashed. Its an awesome tool, not trying to rag on it. I use mine every day. To me, the flex is more about access than strength. Also im a member here on this forum because i like multiple tools that serve the same purpose. Nobody else wants to see a long handled MAXX ratchet? :headscrat

I won't use mine every day, but I understand the concern here.

For me, the regular Armstrong 3/8 MAXX is the best ratchet I'll ever need (SO has no place in my tool box). So this is ideal for someone that isn't a pro, but just likes to have really nice tools.

Most of the long handle needs I have are for fasteners that aren't accessible for something that big, so the flex will be great for that.
 

ADSR

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Its not as strong in high torque applications. Mine are developing quite a bit of play in the flex joint, also the locking groves are getting worn/smashed. Its an awesome tool, not trying to rag on it. I use mine every day. To me, the flex is more about access than strength. Also im a member here on this forum because i like multiple tools that serve the same purpose. Nobody else wants to see a long handled MAXX ratchet? :headscrat

post it. It's worth a look.
 

lightning02

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i need to sell off all my cman ratchets that i dont use anymore and get the new armstrong 88s to replace them.
 

NeuseRvrRat

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Are there any brick and mortar stores that carry Armstrong tools? I'd like to put my hands on a few before I order from HJE.
 
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SASORacing

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I juSt want to point out that I was looking at my 88t matco 3/8 locking flex and comparing it to a 1/4 snap on dual 80 t72 ratchet.

The Matco 3/8 head was just a hair thicker than snap on 1/4! I feel like snap ons dual 80 is more refined though. I like the use of the micro torx bolts and the rubber o rings making it a very sealed head. Matco has a circlip and its not liquid tight as much as the snap on.

Matco does make a better locking flex though. and thinner head. But the internals go to snap on. Also matco has the best soft grip vs snap on and armstrong. Matco's soft grip is % 50 hard plastic and soft rubber making it more durable. Its also more comfortable.
 

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Are there any brick and mortar stores that carry Armstrong tools? I'd like to put my hands on a few before I order from HJE.


NeuseRvrRat,

Home Depot does not carry Armstrong ratchets in their store. However, you can order the 3/8" drive, locking flex ratchet from HomeDepot.com and have it shipped to your home or pick it up at your local store. When you open it up and on the gear it does not say "88 tooth", you can return the ratchet to your local store.


Dave
 

Adam.C

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88 teeth vs 80 just sounds like marketing to me. I'm not moved to buy based on 8 more teeth. Technically, more teeth can mean a weaker rachet, but I doubt 8 teeth make any appreciable difference.

The locking flex also looks hokey, but this is really personal preference. Most pros I know prefer the friction flex. These can be tightened such that they are very difficult to move, or loosened to suit. Several times I have needed to change the flex angle during the stroke to provide knuckle room. Is the flex lock defeatable? Can you set it to move freely?

The slim head IS a big deal to me and I would probably consider these based on that alone. Many times I end up using mid depth sockets to reach into a recess only to find I've run out of room getting the darned bolt out! Problem with smaller heads is that means smaller gears and thus a weaker ratchet. You can't have it all, more teeth, smaller head, greater strength. For normal sized ratchets, I don't think the loss in strength is an issue. Only factor in the really long ratchets.

I would consider these if they were over 12 or 14" long. Snap on makes a 17" 3/8 ratchet (FLL80, FHLL80) but I've not yet seen a flex head version. They have a 1/2" flex model in this size. The 1/2" head isn't really that much bigger than a 3/8" head with a mid depth socket. See here for a comparison.

Snap On's shallow socket set comes with a shallow ratchet handle. But I feel this cookie isn't done baking. I'd like to see a range of longer ratchets with the reduced size head. Not sure if they would have enough strength to be 18" long or so tho.

Ratchet design is all about managing conflicting requirements, strong, yet small, fine toothed yet with the strength of a coarse tool, low back drag but high strength etc etc. And the longer the tool gets, the more strength the mechanism must have since we get mroe mechanical advantage. Long and strong is what I want, but not at the cost of a 1/2" sized head. This ratchet looks like an attempt to produce a long, small headed tool. I'll watch with interest to see how it is received.

If I were Snap On, I'd make a longer handle for the shallow socket set. They won't be as strong as F80, but they could get you out of a jam. This ratchet may be a good alternative.
 
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scarecrow505

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Tons of CHEAP Armstong 88 tooth rachets on ebay. Ive spent $100 on 2 88 3/8 ratchets, 1 88 tooth 1/4 and a 3/8 locking flex:)
 

jessecain1

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I've really liked my armstrong maxxs.I have a flex and non flex in 1/4,3/8 and 1/2 drives. However i'm a little disappointed in my 1/4 flex went to use it for the second time ever at work and it was completely locked up as in it wouldnt turn left or right was expecting something a little better but who knows maybe i got a fluke?

The nice fastenal man at work took it for an exchange yesterday
 

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My Armstrong maxx ratchets are the new favorite over my current stock of SO, GW xp120, Huskey and Cman ratchets.
 
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