The VISES of Garage Journal
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Mohawk Dave
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Call Wilton and ask for new ones. They will send them free.
zoomieport
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I would guess that is a part number, as Wilton wasn't in business until 1941. But, of course I am guessing as it was 30 years before I was born, so I wasn't there, LOL!
Take care!
ZOOM
jr3ruffneck
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That was my understanding too zoomie. Just seemed odd one piece would have a part # and not all of them
twertsy
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Thanks Dave!
zoomieport
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I agree, I bet Nick (Autopts) would have a good answer for us. Hopefully he will check in later and give us a better idea.
Then again, they could have been making parts in 1940 to have vises ready to go when they opened the doors in '41...? Seems reasonable to me, but like I said, I'm just throwing darts.
Take care!
ZOOM
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topop101
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This one is not mine.... yet. Here's a full shot of it . It's an 850 stamped 12 52. Just wondered what the "WE" cast in meant.
https://scontent-ord.**.fbcdn.net/h...=05233994581d3b3235a92cc840cf316c&oe=55C21E96
trijeff
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Second restore, first flipper. 1750 Tradesman and I rebranded it to Snap-On. Wish the post about Wilton sending free badges would have come before I bought these decals but such is life and now I know. Second vise I bought after joining GJ and would not do so again knowing what I do now, at least for what I paid for it. Happy it is done and hopefully out the door soon, I have it's (much) bigger brothers breathing down my neck.
KMScott
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You should make out on that one Jeff, beautiful job. Couple more views if you got them, of course I like looking at the jaws, those look smooth, even dream about jaws, some nightmares. What paint choice did you use.
trijeff
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Thanks for the kind words, Kevin! More views attached. Yes, these are polished steel "flat" or machinist-type jaws, no serrations. I spent quite a bit of time on them, I think the previous owner made them so not sure what type of steel but extremely hard. The paint is Dupli-Color engine enamel with ceramic, color is DE1641 Grabber Green. Certainly wouldn't want this on my bench but hope the SO guys go crazy
balane
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This is the absolute and final vise from the Renton pile. Union Parker 974B, 4" jaws, 56 Lbs. I had two of these Parkers, identical to each other. Both have snapped off jaw shelves. I had Kevin whip me up a pair of his incredible jaws for this one, oversize to the originals. They're amazing like all his work. The color is Satin Oregano enamel!! I want my vises to make people hungry.
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trijeff
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Great work as ALWAYS, Balane! The US Army should order vises from you, that thing looks like it could squeeze the terror out of ISIS 
zoomieport
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Does anyone on here live near Mebane, North Carolina? I may need a little help. If you are nearby and willing to help, please PM me?
Thank you in advance!
Take care!
ZOOM
Thank you in advance!
Take care!
ZOOM
balane
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Thanks Trijeff. Loving that Grabber Green on your beautiful Tradesman.
jakemac
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Columbian 804 decal
Well, I finally got it done.
Here is the recreated image for the 4" Columbian #804 welded plate-steel vise. The image had to be rebuilt pixel by pixel, causing much aggravation due to a shaky optical mouse. Prompting the purchase of a cheap WACOM pen/pad (that I still can't figure out how to control).
I used two pictures to recreate the image. One of a partial #804 decal from va.grouseman, and the other was an internet picture of a Columbian wood vice (possibly from GJ) with a similar decal.
I had to upload a .gif file because the original .psd file was too large for the site. Then, the site converted the .gif file to .jpg, so I have no idea how it will print out. Converting to a different format seems to change the image size, so it would need to be resized back down before printing.
The original .psd file is sized to fit on the front jaw of the vise (some of these vises had the decal on the front jaw, some had the decal on the side of the static body). It would have to be scaled up to a slightly larger size to place it on the side.
In addition, uploading to the site seems to convert the image from 300ppi to the internet standard of 72ppi. If you feel you need a higher resolution file, then PM me with your email addy and I'll send the original .psd file to you.
I suggest printing on white decal paper and then trimming the image, leaving a white border like the original decal had.
cheers.
Well, I finally got it done.
Here is the recreated image for the 4" Columbian #804 welded plate-steel vise. The image had to be rebuilt pixel by pixel, causing much aggravation due to a shaky optical mouse. Prompting the purchase of a cheap WACOM pen/pad (that I still can't figure out how to control).
I used two pictures to recreate the image. One of a partial #804 decal from va.grouseman, and the other was an internet picture of a Columbian wood vice (possibly from GJ) with a similar decal.
I had to upload a .gif file because the original .psd file was too large for the site. Then, the site converted the .gif file to .jpg, so I have no idea how it will print out. Converting to a different format seems to change the image size, so it would need to be resized back down before printing.
The original .psd file is sized to fit on the front jaw of the vise (some of these vises had the decal on the front jaw, some had the decal on the side of the static body). It would have to be scaled up to a slightly larger size to place it on the side.
In addition, uploading to the site seems to convert the image from 300ppi to the internet standard of 72ppi. If you feel you need a higher resolution file, then PM me with your email addy and I'll send the original .psd file to you.
I suggest printing on white decal paper and then trimming the image, leaving a white border like the original decal had.
cheers.
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trijeff
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Nice work, jakemac! Haven't attempted any vise decals (yet) but have had to go the pixel-by-pixel route before and it is very tedious and time-consuming. Excellent finished product.
EDIT: Don't kill me, but is it supposed to be "PATENTS" instead of "PATENDS"?
EDIT: Don't kill me, but is it supposed to be "PATENTS" instead of "PATENDS"?
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bagged89s10
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Teaser pics of my Reed.
I'll let it cure for a few days, then I can paint the letters. I also have to decide on black or red for the spindle.
I was worried the red was going to too light when I sprayed it this morning. But when I got home from work it was dry and perfect.
I'll let it cure for a few days, then I can paint the letters. I also have to decide on black or red for the spindle.
I was worried the red was going to too light when I sprayed it this morning. But when I got home from work it was dry and perfect.
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bagged89s10
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Second restore, first flipper. 1750 Tradesman and I rebranded it to Snap-On. Wish the post about Wilton sending free badges would have come before I bought these decals but such is life and now I know. Second vise I bought after joining GJ and would not do so again knowing what I do now, at least for what I paid for it. Happy it is done and hopefully out the door soon, I have it's (much) bigger brothers breathing down my neck.
Came out awesome!
Nice looking vise there. The decals are a nice touch.
jakemac
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HaHa - Hours and hours of staring at that image and I never caught that. Thanks for the correction. I've fixed the file and uploaded the updated image.
trijeff
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Good call, first time flipper, lots to learn
topop101
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You should have splurged for pipe jaws. I think it would have been a good investment in the final product. Great job on the rebuild.
Agreed. And I just sold a 1765 for 420.00. I think he could stretch the price to locals a bit more with no shipping. But I don't know his market.
drivesitfar
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TJ: awesome job and the color is growing on me. you might get those silver labels for free from Wilton, but i would rather have the ones you bought. where did you buy them and were they hard to put on after you painted your vise? i just saw what ZK saw that your tradesman is missing it's pipe jaws, but the new owner can buy them new from Wilton and you have to stop somewhere. especially if original jaws are missing who knows how much your vise will sell for.
Jake: very nice post and i bet you are happy you posted it so the English teacher could correct you a bit.
Bagged: looks good so far.
ALL: some of you saw me post this on another thread, but i just lost my vise guard and furry friend last night. i understand if some of you don't like cats, but Mirry had the bark of a dog and the management skills of a Queen as most cats do. Tourtouse shell cats are the best and she's the third one to live with us in 30 years we've been here along with 3 dogs that have come and gone too. RIP MIRRY
Jake: very nice post and i bet you are happy you posted it so the English teacher could correct you a bit.
Bagged: looks good so far.
ALL: some of you saw me post this on another thread, but i just lost my vise guard and furry friend last night. i understand if some of you don't like cats, but Mirry had the bark of a dog and the management skills of a Queen as most cats do. Tourtouse shell cats are the best and she's the third one to live with us in 30 years we've been here along with 3 dogs that have come and gone too. RIP MIRRY
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trijeff
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Ohhhhhh, Drives! Soooooo sorry to hear ... what a beauty, and it sounds like even more so on the inside. Feeling for you and yours. Very beautiful memorial with the Rhody's, a VERY fitting PNW goodbye. Take care my friend.
Will post on the decals later, wanted to keep this one kitty-centric. RIP Mirry
Will post on the decals later, wanted to keep this one kitty-centric. RIP Mirry
bigcaddy
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Here is a minor update on my Wilton 400S resto I'm currently undertaking. All that is left is to apply the decal and remove the protective tape from the anvil area.
The new lockdowns turned out better then I expected them to. I ran into some trouble when forming the ends but I was able to reshape them and salvage the handles.
The light is crappy in the garage but it's come a long ways. I'll take a better show tomorrow in the sun if possible. The weather has been cold and slightly rainy so I'll have to work around it
The new lockdowns turned out better then I expected them to. I ran into some trouble when forming the ends but I was able to reshape them and salvage the handles.
The light is crappy in the garage but it's come a long ways. I'll take a better show tomorrow in the sun if possible. The weather has been cold and slightly rainy so I'll have to work around it
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Mark in Indiana
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Drives:
My condolences for your loss. Our furry friends are the best friends we have.
My condolences for your loss. Our furry friends are the best friends we have.
bigcaddy
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oldldh
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Drives--My condolences on your loss...
We lost our "Harvey" about ten years ago, and we still aren't over it...
They really are members of the family...
We lost our "Harvey" about ten years ago, and we still aren't over it...
They really are members of the family...
Thanks for the kind words, Kevin! More views attached. Yes, these are polished steel "flat" or machinist-type jaws, no serrations. I spent quite a bit of time on them, I think the previous owner made them so not sure what type of steel but extremely hard. The paint is Dupli-Color engine enamel with ceramic, color is DE1641 Grabber Green. Certainly wouldn't want this on my bench but hope the SO guys go crazy
man i love that color, kind of just reaches out and grabs you. that looks great
Re: Columbian 804 decal
I wish i could make decals like that my badge dilemma for some of my grinders and machines would be over, BTW you did a great job recreating that decal, whats the trick
Well, I finally got it done.
Here is the recreated image for the 4" Columbian #804 welded plate-steel vise. The image had to be rebuilt pixel by pixel, causing much aggravation due to a shaky optical mouse. Prompting the purchase of a cheap WACOM pen/pad (that I still can't figure out how to control).
I used two pictures to recreate the image. One of a partial #804 decal from va.grouseman, and the other was an internet picture of a Columbian wood vice (possibly from GJ) with a similar decal.
I had to upload a .gif file because the original .psd file was too large for the site. Then, the site converted the .gif file to .jpg, so I have no idea how it will print out. Converting to a different format seems to change the image size, so it would need to be resized back down before printing.
The original .psd file is sized to fit on the front jaw of the vise (some of these vises had the decal on the front jaw, some had the decal on the side of the static body). It would have to be scaled up to a slightly larger size to place it on the side.
In addition, uploading to the site seems to convert the image from 300ppi to the internet standard of 72ppi. If you feel you need a higher resolution file, then PM me with your email addy and I'll send the original .psd file to you.
I suggest printing on white decal paper and then trimming the image, leaving a white border like the original decal had.
cheers.
I wish i could make decals like that my badge dilemma for some of my grinders and machines would be over, BTW you did a great job recreating that decal, whats the trick
zoomieport
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DIF:
I am sorry for your loss, my thoughts are with you, I know it's a bad day, a real bummer...
My condolences Sir,
Mike
I am sorry for your loss, my thoughts are with you, I know it's a bad day, a real bummer...
My condolences Sir,
Mike
FMC1959
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I don't remember where, but I saw the model 014 listed as a "utility" vise. With the cast in pipe jaws also being a telling sign, this could be a light/medium duty vise, which is fine. But if that is the case, $500 is way over priced, even if it was spanking brand new.
Second restore, first flipper. 1750 Tradesman and I rebranded it to Snap-On. Wish the post about Wilton sending free badges would have come before I bought these decals but such is life and now I know. Second vise I bought after joining GJ and would not do so again knowing what I do now, at least for what I paid for it. Happy it is done and hopefully out the door soon, I have it's (much) bigger brothers breathing down my neck.
TJ, great restore. The spitshine you have on all the metal surfaces is really something, along with the green makes for a great looking vise. Even the SO decal looks like it was there originally.
Balane, great job as always. I checked some sold listings and was very happy to see that your Yost sold quite well. For a 4" vise it solid in "bullet" range, good for you.
FMC1959
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DIF
My sympathies to you and your family. Cats (and dogs) are great companions and become members of the family; they play such important roles in our lives.
My sympathies to you and your family. Cats (and dogs) are great companions and become members of the family; they play such important roles in our lives.
JeremyBurke
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DIF: I'm sorry for your loss. It's never easy loosing a pet, I hope you all have a wonderful time telling stories about your old friend.
Outlawmws
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Drives, Sorry for the loss of your furry friend. It's always hard to loose a family member, and pets ARE family members...
jakemac
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Re: Columbian 804 decal
Dif - I too, offer my condolences. When I was a kid we had a Calico like yours. It seemed that that cat was perpetually pregnant even though she was kept in the house all the time. Everytime we took her to the vet, we couldn't get her spayed because she had another litter going. I can't remember how many times I woke up in the middle of the night with wet feet and a new litter of kittens in my bed. That was 40yrs ago and those memories are still with me.
The biggest tricks are time and persistence. (the same as with any of our projects)
Do a little bit then walk away for a while and busy yourself with something else. Then come back and do a little more before walking away. Once you think you're done, print it out on paper and look for "holidays" with a magnifying glass and make corrections. Sometimes print it enlarged to see rough edges. I must have printed it out for editing at least 30 times.
It helps to have more than one program that can view or manipulate an image. I did most of the work in a lite version of Photoshop and did each element in it's own layer so I wouldn't screw up previous work. I also used GraphicConverter, and Apple's "Preview" to get alternate looks at what I was doing. When I was done, I made a copy of the file and deleted the background image before I merged the layers into one image. I still have the layered copy so that I can make changes if I need to.
I'm still not entirely happy with the color of the blue circle. But it will have to do.
The first layer in the cake was a picture of the remains of the decal as a background. The next layers were mostly tracing over that image and building up each element of the image. Once some of the other letters in the logo were drawn, the "C" in Columbian was started by copy/pasting a portion of the "O" and building off of it. The "N" was created the same way by using part of the "M". Then it was just a matter of a few days of fine tuning. The rest of the text was just a matter of finding a font in the computer's library that came close enough to work. It ended up being Arial, with some of the text Bold.
As mentioned in my first post, I bought a cheap ($37 shipped) chinese Wacom pad for finer control. It doesn't have a lot of bells and whistles, it mostly acts like a pen controlled mouse. I'm still learning the finer art of controlling it, so I keep switching back and forth to my mouse.
They have smaller and larger models as well. I chose this one as a "medium" size because I thought the smaller one would be too small for me, and I won't use it enough to need a larger one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371099640250?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Dif - I too, offer my condolences. When I was a kid we had a Calico like yours. It seemed that that cat was perpetually pregnant even though she was kept in the house all the time. Everytime we took her to the vet, we couldn't get her spayed because she had another litter going. I can't remember how many times I woke up in the middle of the night with wet feet and a new litter of kittens in my bed. That was 40yrs ago and those memories are still with me.
The biggest tricks are time and persistence. (the same as with any of our projects)
Do a little bit then walk away for a while and busy yourself with something else. Then come back and do a little more before walking away. Once you think you're done, print it out on paper and look for "holidays" with a magnifying glass and make corrections. Sometimes print it enlarged to see rough edges. I must have printed it out for editing at least 30 times.
It helps to have more than one program that can view or manipulate an image. I did most of the work in a lite version of Photoshop and did each element in it's own layer so I wouldn't screw up previous work. I also used GraphicConverter, and Apple's "Preview" to get alternate looks at what I was doing. When I was done, I made a copy of the file and deleted the background image before I merged the layers into one image. I still have the layered copy so that I can make changes if I need to.
I'm still not entirely happy with the color of the blue circle. But it will have to do.
The first layer in the cake was a picture of the remains of the decal as a background. The next layers were mostly tracing over that image and building up each element of the image. Once some of the other letters in the logo were drawn, the "C" in Columbian was started by copy/pasting a portion of the "O" and building off of it. The "N" was created the same way by using part of the "M". Then it was just a matter of a few days of fine tuning. The rest of the text was just a matter of finding a font in the computer's library that came close enough to work. It ended up being Arial, with some of the text Bold.
As mentioned in my first post, I bought a cheap ($37 shipped) chinese Wacom pad for finer control. It doesn't have a lot of bells and whistles, it mostly acts like a pen controlled mouse. I'm still learning the finer art of controlling it, so I keep switching back and forth to my mouse.
They have smaller and larger models as well. I chose this one as a "medium" size because I thought the smaller one would be too small for me, and I won't use it enough to need a larger one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371099640250?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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trijeff
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Thanks a ton for the compliments, gents!
Drives, the decals came from a seller on eBay called "d.e.c.a.l.s.a.l.e.s." (I am not affiliated with the seller in any way). Eight (8) for $4.50, in either 4" or 5", tons of color choices and one set free if you buy two sets. They are REALLY easy to apply, it is just like putting a screensaver on your phone, the seller sends directions (via email) and there are also videos on YouTube (search "applying vinyl decals").
FMC, the "spitshine" is via Scotch-Brite EXL deburring wheels, I get the convolute 8F - highly suggested!!