See-through Rollfront Garage Doors

[Crown Imperial]

Anyone have a recommendation for roll front garage doors with see-through panels?
Haven't been able to find to find a local vendor that will provide something like the pic below.

 

[Fishplate]

It's a regular commercial door. I installed a few when I was working with a residential door company. Shouldn't be that hard to find someone to install one for you. If you want to buy and self-install, that's a different story...

 

[upndown]

The few I've worked on in the past were ordered thru the Commercial department of larger Door Cos. Try asking if they carry Full View Doors. Good luck!

 

[Voi]

Anyone have a recommendation for roll front garage doors with see-through panels?

Pella and Cloplay both offer glass garage doors. I think Home Depot has a price calculator for the latter on their site. Last time I tried to use that calculator it would give weird results so don't take them as absolute prices.

We also have a local overhead door company that sells glass garage doors from CHI.

The suggestion to look at Dwell magazine is a good one. There are also multiple examples of glass garage doors on Houzz.com as well. You'll actually see a surprising number of them used to separate interior living spaces from the outdoors. It's something of a growing trend, believe it or not.

 

[upndown]

I've worked at a couple restaurants that used them for outside walls, when the weather was right, they would open the walls..pretty slick. If I recall correctly, they don't come cheap. Something I would leave to the pros. Breaking glass at install can get expensive.

 

[Crown Imperial]

Thanks for the recommendations.
I have seen the indoor roll front glass doors currently in fashion. Seems it's also becoming trendy in pubs and restaurants.
The Pella doors look good.
The Cloplay even better. Seems they have a great selection of different types of panes. Being that code requires garage doors to be hurricane proof here in FL I will probably go for a white acrylic.

http://www.clopaydoor.com/avante#Designs

I will keep looking and see what else is there. Dwell and Houze I both know of. Never thought about looking at those sites for garage doors.

 

[jstroede]

Your options for FBC approved doors are going to be VERY few if any, depending on exactly where you are located.

John

 

[Caman]

They look nice and I like the light coming in, but I wouldn't want every Tom, ****, and Harry seeing me working and knowing what I have in my garage. Also keeping them looking nice and clean would ****.

 

[windward]

I bought a Haas door for the garage door that faces into the yard. Nice door bit the frames is a bit large. I saw that Menards has one where the frame is smaller, but I don't know how sturdy it is.



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[BeachBoy]

Here a full 9' x 7' will run about $4k installed. I haven't checked all the brands yet (here we have garaga, garex and a others, every company Noe makes those glass doors)

The same type at home depot (Clopay) I got quoted $7.8k, they are nuts.

Only downsize to those doors is that their R-Value is minimal so a lot of heating/cooling costs if you want a controlled temp inside.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

Like this?

I didn't understand your title at first. Its a sectional garage door, just one with glass panels in it.

I just told people I wanted doors like the fire stations and jiffy lubes had.

Mine is a Windsor brand. I think Amarr also makes them, along with practically every other company that makes commercial garage doors.

I had one door company that took a lot of badgering to even come out and give me an estimate, and the estimate was "you really cannot afford it" After much badgering again, he gave me an outrageous price. I went with a local guy who got me the door for a reasonable price and installed it. Year 2000 dollars, the door you see, 12 ft wide and 14 ft high was $1500 and the opener was another $500. Initially the guy priced out only three glass panels, and I said "not enough" and then he priced it with 5 panels. He INSISTED it needed the top and bottom metal panels for strength, which it DID NOT, but I don't have any issues, I like it just like it is.

Charles

 

[Joe Reed]

In SE Florida I'm pretty sure you don't want one of those facing into the afternoon sun....unless you also use the garage as a large oven. Even here in Tennessee I went with an insulated door...which is a HUGE improvement over the original sheet metal door in both winter and summer - but especially in summer since my door faces west...

 

[kramarj]

We have installed a couple of CHI full view doors and they are very expensive. I would recommend you check them out though, they are a very very strong door.

Raynor also makes them, but I don't know if I have ever seen one of theirs.

Also, not sure if it is standard or not, but you might want to think about safety glass for it. Been a while since we have dealt with one, so can't remember if it was standard or an option.

 

[sublimate]

I did my glass doors insulated for the Colorado cold - it's nice and keeps it toasty even working right next to the doors, but man are they heavy with double the glass - about 500lbs per door.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

In SE Florida I'm pretty sure you don't want one of those facing into the afternoon sun....unless you also use the garage as a large oven. Even here in Tennessee I went with an insulated door...which is a HUGE improvement over the original sheet metal door in both winter and summer - but especially in summer since my door faces west...

Mine faces west, but the door is open in the summer anyhow, along with the other end of the building, so its a non issue. Helps in the winter however.

Also, not sure if it is standard or not, but you might want to think about safety glass for it. Been a while since we have dealt with one, so can't remember if it was standard or an option.

The Windsor doors I bought came with tempered glass. I cannot imagine them being made any other way.

 

[kramarj]

The Windsor doors I bought came with tempered glass. I cannot imagine them being made any other way.

I can't either, seems like a huge safety hazard any other way.

I just looked and there are options for different types of glass- http://www.chiohd.com/garage-doors/commercial-doors/aluminum

Not sure what DSB is? Like I said, we have only done two I think.

Edit- DSB is double strength glass apparently.

 

[jstroede]

Tempered glass will almost always be an option, not standard, in these types of doors.

John

 

[AndyL]

1/8" single pane is typically standard. 1/2" sealed units are best.

Tempered is HEAVY.

My preference was always to use 1/8" sealed units with the 3m glass safety films to both (often replaced by an opaque/tint/energy saver film on inside/outside pane - depending on preference)

 

[Jfresh]

I have a 16x7 clopay all glass. If you are going to run a motor make sure it is a chain drive and has enough hp. Also read the install instructions and make sure it is installed properly. I have had too many problems with a poor install job.

 

[hunterguy86]

If you install these, make sure you use a good opener. We have full glass at work on the front doors and partial on the back (fire station).

The fronts have issues ALL the time due to the weight. Full glass doors are HEAVY.


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[kramarj]

The hp of the opener has nothing to do with a door's weight. The springs are what actually lift the door, not the opener. The only job the opener has is to raise and lower the door. However, there are different grades of openers- residential, light commercial, and commercial. Just sayin......

I should also say that openers are based on the sq ft of the door, so the bigger the door, the heavier opener you need.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Thanks for the recommendations.
I have seen the indoor roll front glass doors currently in fashion. Seems it's also becoming trendy in pubs and restaurants.
The Pella doors look good.
The Cloplay even better. Seems they have a great selection of different types of panes. Being that code requires garage doors to be hurricane proof here in FL I will probably go for a white acrylic.

http://www.clopaydoor.com/avante#Designs

I will keep looking and see what else is there. Dwell and Houze I both know of. Never thought about looking at those sites for garage doors.

If you are Miami-Dade or directly on the coast, I doubt you can have doors like that. They will never past the missile/projectile test.

 

[sublimate]

The hp of the opener has nothing to do with a door's weight.

That's like saying it's just as easy to push a semi on level ground as a motorcycle.
Heavy doors have more friction than lighter doors and need more hp to overcome.
Also the springs never balance the door exactly over the entire range, You can dial it in to exactly balance at one spot, but the door weight changes as it goes up and around the bend at a different rate than the spring gets weaker. With a heavier door the difference at point is even bigger so more hp is needed to overcome the difference.

 

[hd54kh]

When I built my garage 25+ years ago I put on a set of 10x8 doors from a gas station. The station was getting demolished and got the doors for free. They were 10x10s and I left a section out.

They were great, I have a view of some mountains a mile away, the natural sun light the feeling of open surroundings and the local wildlife I got to watch.

Now not so great, strangers were recognizing me elsewhere and referring to what I have in it. I can't count the number of birds that hit them when I kept them clean, the heat loss.

Now I'm too energy and security conscience and the new shop is fitted with steel clad insulated windowless doors. But also just looks down a driveway so not too much to see.

Terry

 

[jstroede]

1/8" single pane is typically standard. 1/2" sealed units are best.

Tempered is HEAVY.

My preference was always to use 1/8" sealed units with the 3m glass safety films to both (often replaced by an opaque/tint/energy saver film on inside/outside pane - depending on preference)

Tempering does not add weight to the glass. 1/8" tempered glass weighs the same as 1/8" annealed glass (DSB), 1/4" tempered glass weighs the same as 1/4" annealed glass, etc.

John

 

[kramarj]

That's like saying it's just as easy to push a semi on level ground as a motorcycle.
Heavy doors have more friction than lighter doors and need more hp to overcome.
Also the springs never balance the door exactly over the entire range, You can dial it in to exactly balance at one spot, but the door weight changes as it goes up and around the bend at a different rate than the spring gets weaker. With a heavier door the difference at point is even bigger so more hp is needed to overcome the difference.

Not trying to start an argument here, as this has nothing to do with the original post, but you are wrong, I do this stuff everyday, it's my job.

All of the residential openers we sell are 1/2hp, all of the light commercial openers we sell are 1/2hp, and all but a few of the commercial openers we have sold are 1/2hp. Like I said, the actual weight of the door has nothing to do with the hp of the opener. What dictates what opener you use is the square footage of the door and in some cases how many times a door is opened per hour. If you would like, you can look it up.

As far as the springs balancing the door, if done correctly, the springs will balance the door wherever it is stopped, whether it be a few inches off the ground, halfway up, wherever.

Plain and simple an opener is not designed to lift the weight of the door, it is designed to open and close a balanced door.

 

[Crown Imperial]

The garage doors will face exactly north. Direct sunlight is not an issue.
Privacy is however since they face the street. That's why I am leaning toward a milky type glass / composite material.

I am in Broward county so the argument that there might not be any hurricane approved doors of this type is a good one. Worse case scenario I'll have to go with a one glass pane row type of door. Garage has windows so if expanding the window is $1000 and the cost of a full glass garage door is more than $1000 over a one glass row, than may be I'll just slap in a bigger window. So I do have some options.

A local recommended the company "Broten" to me. Any feedback on them?