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Diamond Grinding Problems

Doug_Fir

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After searching far and wide for a stand-up diamond grinder rental in my area, I thought I was lucky to find an Edco unit (two 7" discs with diamond inserts), which I rented for the weekend. I was surprised at how little productivity I got from it. I wasn't expecting to grind down to the aggregate in nothing flat, but after eight hours, I figured out I only got 50 ft2/hr with only very light surface removal, and this doesn't count the areas against the walls, which I'll do later with a hand grinder. I also have a lot of areas I'll need to clean up with the hand grinder since the removal was close to nothing.

I've searched the forum and saw where someone used a field stone to weigh the unit down more, so I put a 60 lb. bag of sand on the front, and that didn't improve things much. I even sat on the sand bag and pulled myself along with my legs, and this helped a little (also helps with getting a sore backside...). These were for sure the diamond inserts and not the stone inserts. When I rented the unit, they also threw in the steel scrabbler discs, and those barely scratched the surface. My concrete is around 4 years old, standard power trowelled finish and no sealers, hardeners, etc.

I've read on the forum where folks have gotten around 50-100 ft2/hr by hand grinding. I'm thinking about just hand grinding in the future, since it's about the same production rate, and (hopefully) more agressive in the surface removal. Speaking of... Any thoughts on a good hand grinder? I've seen where someone had good luck with the Bosch. There's also Metabo and Hilti (locally the Hilti DG150 is $1100, plus a $500 power conditioner(?) -I know they make good tools, but wow).
 
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XR80David

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I have a Bosch I believe the model# is 1175AK or 1174AK I will double check. Anyhow I can grind 1sqft down to aggregate (this is with removing paint) in about 2 minutes... Very nice unit and has a vac adapter so very low dust.
 

cansari

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I am planning on renting an EDCO single disk grinder as well to grind 700 SF. I assumed it would only take an hour or so to grind. Am I wrong?
 

gj91

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I have a Bosch I believe the model# is 1175AK or 1174AK I will double check. Anyhow I can grind 1sqft down to aggregate (this is with removing paint) in about 2 minutes... Very nice unit and has a vac adapter so very low dust.


Is this a decent option for a 2 car garage. My garage is broken into 1/4's so I was thinking a hand grinder may not be that bad. Just lot's of time on the floor.

The model number is Bosch Model 1773AK

Home Depot does have a grinder so that may be the best option.

My big dilemma is shot blasting vs. grinding.
 

jeffhay

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I'm using a Bosch 1873-6 right now and it works great. It doesn't have an integrated dust shroud, but you can find them for about half what the 1773AK costs. I won't be needing this one when I'm done and will probably offer it for sale here in a few days.

Which reminds me; back to the grind...
 
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XR80David

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Is this a decent option for a 2 car garage. My garage is broken into 1/4's so I was thinking a hand grinder may not be that bad. Just lot's of time on the floor.

The model number is Bosch Model 1773AK

Home Depot does have a grinder so that may be the best option.

My big dilemma is shot blasting vs. grinding.

Yes, it will work great on a 2 car. You are not grinding paint off are you? Just the bare cement needs to be ground? I used mine to grind 3 coats of epoxy off + the cement and it worked great.

Thanks,
David
 
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Doug_Fir

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I noticed the two disc EDCO was wired for both 120 and 240V and the rental company had it permanently secured in the 120V mode. I wonder how the 240V mode would've performed, especially the rpm's. I'm getting into the weeds with this, but would the unit set to 240V just draw half the amperage, or would it draw the same amperage and double the power (double rpm's?) ...power equals amperage x voltage (P=IV) ...anyway, I'd be curious how the one disc version works for you, cansari.

I just ordered a Bosch 1773AK. Thanks XR80David and gj91 for your input! I also found some other recommendations on this forum after searching, and the frosting on the cake was seeing someone on a commercial construction project doing some floor prep in a small area, and sure enough, it was the same Bosch.
 

jeffhay

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I have not been able to get mine as rough as 80 grit sandpaper by grinding. I definitely took off the top layer and gave it a fresh surface, but it's probably closer to 150 or 200 grit. Will this be alright?
 

XR80David

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I noticed the two disc EDCO was wired for both 120 and 240V and the rental company had it permanently secured in the 120V mode. I wonder how the 240V mode would've performed, especially the rpm's. I'm getting into the weeds with this, but would the unit set to 240V just draw half the amperage, or would it draw the same amperage and double the power (double rpm's?) ...power equals amperage x voltage (P=IV) ...anyway, I'd be curious how the one disc version works for you, cansari.

I just ordered a Bosch 1773AK. Thanks XR80David and gj91 for your input! I also found some other recommendations on this forum after searching, and the frosting on the cake was seeing someone on a commercial construction project doing some floor prep in a small area, and sure enough, it was the same Bosch.

No problem. Be careful with the 1773AK, its a mean grinder and make sure you use the vacuum port with a decent vacuum unless you want everything within 300ft to have concrete dust on it, not to mention what it does to you. Also, frequently tighten down the diamond with the provided tool. It caught be by surprise when I found it loose after using it, luckily I caught it before it flew off... But nevertheless you should be very happy with the grinder.
 
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My weapon of choice is the Metabo setup with the soft Sawtec shrouds and a Ruvac vacuum using 12 segment turbo wheels. Faster than 24 seg but wears poorly, fast turn around is typically more important on my jobs.

Worked very well for me many times in the past. We did 5500 sq.ft. in 1.5 days with two men on the grinders & a case of beers at the END of the day.

Also be sure to get a good fitting respirator with asbestos rated filters, masks are really not good, invest in your own health.
 
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