The VISES of Garage Journal

[bagged89s10]

A Rotating, 3-Jaw Vise? THIS GUY must work in marketing! At least now it's a bit lighter and easier to move around.

Technically it does have 3 jaws since one is broken off right? lol

 

[FMC1959]

FINALLY took the opportunity this week to restore my own personal 3.5" Sears Craftsman 5178 vise that I have had since I was a kid. it's been on the opposite side of my workbench for the last couple of years, and now it matches my 4.5" Shop King in Hazet teal.

Very nice job APEX. The open screw utility vises are considered light duty, but I have always like them very much. They definitely have character and yours turned out very nice

 

[bluebolt]

Originally posted by Autopts.

Imagine taking slides in and out of 800S's all day? That's work!
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Autopts,---The half ain't never been told.---I promised you a year earlier I would remove the slide and check for a date stamp.---But I just dreaded it so bad, and rightfully so.---The first time I tried to do it, it rolled over on my foot, so I scrapped the idea for 8 months.---Got up the nerve again when Drive started the Wilton date stamping thread.---My back hurt for two days after wrestling that thing and it was all for naught.---No stamp.---And from that moment on, all I could think of is KNOCK-OFF.---Then I thought, well it's here, it's mine, too late to send it back, and for a Knock-off, I guess it's not too bad.---But it did need greasing.---Still had the factory dried up grease on it.---So it got a good grease bath.---Autopts, what you and Blue have said has eased my pain some.---Both are very good arguments for the defense. But still not 100% convinced.

Your right your 800 is a knockoff. To ease your pain and get it out of your sight I will give you $100 for it.

 

[drivesitfar]

Apex: yes nice job spiffing up that Shop King vise. did you forget to put a bolt in the back mounting hole or is it over a spot that is tough to put a bolt in? since it's a light duty vise i wouldn't worry about it too much, but on the bigger vises i'd try to mount in every hole available to do so and just not too tight.

TOP: i personally really like JB's and your brown hammer painted vises. Fireman did a Craftsman block grinder that color too that looks awesome if you haven't seen it i think you will soon when he finishes putting together his 6 inch Bullet vise. anyway the shine on your bare metal is awesome too and with the black base i think you did a great job. did you use a deburring wheel to shine the bare metal or just wire wheel or scotch pad? is your Patent pending stamped on the slide and do tell? or maybe it was one of the ones that were sold to Uncle Sam without a date?

McB: i'm still learning about all the little different changes that Wilton bullets made to their vises over the years. thanks for the kudos and i'm sure this one will have a good home soon and look even better.

 

[Junebuggy]

Here's my Junebuggyinspired Wilton #4. I really liked his Athols. Not sure mine turned out as nice as his but it's better than it was.

Woooow....I REALLY like how that came out. One of my favorite colors!! I am going to try a different color on my Parker 40-1/2. Same type of paint but in Hammered "Chestnut" with some gold accents on the letters. I plan on keeping this one and am looking forward to see how this comes out. Let the disassembly and prepping begin.

 

[topop101]

Apex: yes nice job spiffing up that Shop King vise. did you forget to put a bolt in the back mounting hole or is it over a spot that is tough to put a bolt in? since it's a light duty vise i wouldn't worry about it too much, but on the bigger vises i'd try to mount in every hole available to do so and just not too tight.

TOP: i personally really like JB's and your brown hammer painted vises. Fireman did a Craftsman block grinder that color too that looks awesome if you haven't seen it i think you will soon when he finishes putting together his 6 inch Bullet vise. anyway the shine on your bare metal is awesome too and with the black base i think you did a great job. did you use a deburring wheel to shine the bare metal or just wire wheel or scotch pad? is your Patent pending stamped on the slide and do tell? or maybe it was one of the ones that were sold to Uncle Sam without a date?

McB: i'm still learning about all the little different changes that Wilton bullets made to their vises over the years. thanks for the kudos and i'm sure this one will have a good home soon and look even better.

Drives The color is Hammered copper. This # 4 has no date. It was a 40.00 pick up from a wanted ad I place. I polish all my bare metal the old fashion way... grease from the elbow and 80, 120,180,220,320,400,600,1200,1500 then black and gray polish TOPped with J&J wax

 

[topop101]

Woooow....I REALLY like how that came out. One of my favorite colors!! I am going to try a different color on my Parker 40-1/2. Same type of paint but in Hammered "Chestnut" with some gold accents on the letters. I plan on keeping this one and am looking forward to see how this comes out. Let the disassembly and prepping begin.

Looking forward to seeing it as well. ! You do truly inspiring work. Thank you

 

[drivesitfar]

TOP: i'm guessing you use those grits in sandpaper? do you own one of those rounded rubber sanding blocks or just sandpaper under your fingers? also i'm guessing J & J is Johnson and Johnson wax in the yellow can?

thanks

JB: always like looking at what you can do to an old vise or tool so i'll be ready with the popcorn to see all those pictures and since you have an old Parker that not many are posted here why not take up two or three posts of 7 pictures each if you are up to it. good luck and hope you are feeling up to it.

 

[KMScott]

Here's my Junebuggyinspired Wilton #4. I really liked his Athols. Not sure mine turned out as nice as his but it's better than it was.

That is a very nice restore Topop101, did you make a new handle or hand worked the original.

 

[Junebuggy]

We'll see how it goes....I'm going to prep and shine the slide as clean as possible and coat it with valve grinding compound. I then plan on putting it on my drill press with a small engine turning brush to give it a jewel pattern. I've done this on a few rifles in the past and I think this will snazz it up....it'll take a lot of time but, hey...beats watching the "WIVES OF ATLANTA" on TV with the wife, right?

 

[purpurite]

Apex: yes nice job spiffing up that Shop King vise. did you forget to put a bolt in the back mounting hole or is it over a spot that is tough to put a bolt in? since it's a light duty vise i wouldn't worry about it too much, but on the bigger vises i'd try to mount in every hole available to do so and just not too tight.

Nope, the slightly larger Shop King is bolted in with 3 bolts (and subsequently broke the base mounting plate through one of the clamp hole when we moved), and the 3.5" Craftsman is mounted with 2 bolts. It's small, and is very light duty, as I don't work on many large scale projects. The Shop King has soft aluminum jaws for R/C and firearm work and the Craftsman is just too small for any real aggressive work. The whole bench moves before the vise is stressed.

Now I'm on the search for a new 4.5" Shop King for parts (baseplate) and a larger vise for a new workbench in the next garage.


doug

 

[topop101]

That is a very nice restore Topop101, did you make a new handle or hand worked the original.

I have no means or ability to make one. It's all original equipment to this vise. There's still a lot of dings in it they just shine a bit more now. I spin in it a drill with sand paper. I may be placing an order with you on some swivel locks for this is the buyer wants to pay extra. Any idea on a time frame from order to receiving?

 

[drivesitfar]

TOP: thanks for the details and the buyer is a lucky man to have you spiff up that old Wilton bullet for him. beeswax works great on toolbox slides in case you haven't tried it. Door ease is mostly beeswax if somebody is looking for some at the store because rarely do they have bees wax available.

JB: if you are up to it i love that idea. Carla i think did something like that on her little Reed i'm posting a picture of and only posting it because even if Carla said how she did it i don't speak fluent "METAL" language yet so she might have done something similar to what you are talking about doing. sounds like I'm going to have to make a double batch of popcorn and buy some good beer for your restoration pictures and your thoughts on how you actually did the finish work. hope you are feeling a bit better and my wife watches shows where there is more blood than an emergency room so i get a lot of laptop and shop time undisturbed.

 

[firemanast]

Here's my Junebuggyinspired Wilton #4. I really liked his Athols. Not sure mine turned out as nice as his but it's better than it was.

Nice vise and a great job on it !

 

[KMScott]

Carla scraped her Reed with a carbide scrapping tool, wish I had that talent, much different method then spinning a cratex or using lapping compound. I just love her Reed vise.

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: how did Carla make the jaws so smooth? on a mill or?? or Carla if you are reading this please post again if you have time.

 

[Junebuggy]

I am doing "ok", Drives...thanks for asking...just pacing myself. I'll get there. I am finding little things along the way of bringing this 150 year old vise back to life. After some gentle wheel brushing, I found this vise has sat stationary for some time by the "shadow" left on the slide from the static jaw. I also smiled when I saw the wear line from the collar on the spindle. No telling how many spins this has made. I did, however, find a few inclusions on both dynamic and static jaws that look like forge blems....I think they just add character to it and nothing I really want to take out. What a great past time this is and also a good way to burn off a big Sunday breakfast but, that's enough for today...time to go take my daily walk along the Columbia River. Enjoy your Sunday everyone and remember your loved ones who've past on ahead of you.

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Junebuggy, That hammered Chesnut looks better on the plastic paint can top than is does on the actual item. I used it on an old cast iron podium base and it seems to change color with the lighting on it. Maybe it will come out better for you.

Kevin, I will get with you on those jaws next week.

 

[va.grouseman]

A Rotating, 3-Jaw Vise? THIS GUY must work in marketing! At least now it's a bit lighter and easier to move around.

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Remember the advise George Costanza gave Jerry on beating a lie detector?

("It's not a lie, if you believe it so").

 

[Junebuggy]

Junebuggy, That hammered Chesnut looks better on the plastic paint can top than is does on the actual item. I used it on an old cast iron podium base and it seems to change color with the lighting on it. Maybe it will come out better for you.

Kevin, I will get with you on those jaws next week.

I did a test on some other steel and you're absolutely right about that ....I dunno....I might just leave this one bare and not paint it...lots of character in this one. I like them painted and unpainted as well. Ohhh the decisions....

 

[balane]

This steel vise popped up on Seattle's Craig's List. It's steel, I assume it's a one of a kind but maybe somebody recognizes it.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/5040328055.html

6 Inch All Steel Bench Vise - $35 (Puyallup)

6 inch all steel bench vise with a swivel base. Jaws are in good shape. Works good. $35.00

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[Fretters]

That looks very similar to the usual import fare Balane.

hey...beats listening to the wife, right?

The altered version is more my thinking.

 

[bagged89s10]

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Remember the advise George Costanza gave Jerry on beating a lie detector?



("It's not a lie, if you believe it so").

One of many awesome quotes from Seinfeld. I'm a huge Seinfeld nut by the way.

 

[topop101]

We'll see how it goes....I'm going to prep and shine the slide as clean as possible and coat it with valve grinding compound. I then plan on putting it on my drill press with a small engine turning brush to give it a jewel pattern. I've done this on a few rifles in the past and I think this will snazz it up....it'll take a lot of time but, hey...beats watching the "WIVES OF ATLANTA" on TV with the wife, right?

Hey that will be trophy quality ! can't wait to see that !

 

[Craptain]

This steel vise popped up on Seattle's Craig's List. It's steel, I assume it's a one of a kind but maybe somebody recognizes it.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/5040328055.html



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It is almost identical to one I passed on at an auction last year. For some reason the bidding went way up. Maybe it is actually a good vise, but not for me. And apparently this seller does not rate it too highly either.

 

[wrenchguy]

TOP: beeswax works great on toolbox slides in case you haven't tried it. Door ease is mostly beeswax if somebody is looking for some at the store because rarely do they have bees wax available.

i believe toilet rings r 100% beeswax, inexpensive too, been using it 35 years 4 cabinet installs

 

[va.grouseman]

This steel vise popped up on Seattle's Craig's List. It's steel, I assume it's a one of a kind but maybe somebody recognizes it.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/5040328055.html



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Balane,---Looks Somewhat Brazilian.---Nodular Brazil, page 304, post 6076.---May be home made from Brazilian pattern.

At $35.00, you aught to cotton on to that one.

 

[Outlawmws]

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Balane,---Looks Somewhat Brazilian.---Nodular Brazil, page 304, post 6076.---May be home made from Brazilian pattern.

At $35.00, you aught to cotton on to that one.

Never would have thought of that for the term "Brazilian"

 

[drivesitfar]

Wrench: thanks for the information and sorry to say i threw 2 almost 20 year old toilet wax rings out last weekend. i think I still kept one though which might last me a while if they are beeswax.

Balane: i'm with you and passing on the red one if you are because even if it's old and probably European or some other part of the world it's ugly and it looks like a very light duty vise. at that price it would make a good pair of bookends, but Honey Do list has to be dealt with today.

 

[Fretters]

Never would have thought of that for the term "Brazilian"

What a let down it would be, being invited to check out that Brazilian.


This is they type it reminds me of:

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/csvr150-150mm-steel-vice?da=1&TC=SRC-steel vice

One of the import Clarke vices. They are apparently a decent general usage vice though, from what I hear.

 

[t4runner]

Picked up 2 vises this weekend. The Parker I just started to work on and the Hollands I just finished. Im going to need the spindle collar for the Parker but other than that is all there. The Hollands has a chip out of the corner of the jaw but no cracks.I smoothed it out a bit then just painted it.

 

[Fretters]

Picked up 2 vises this weekend. The Parker I just started to work on and the Hollands I just finished. I going to need the spindle collar but other than that is all there. The Hollands has a chip out of the corner of the jaw but no cracks.I smoothed it out a bit then just painted it.

Nicely done. Just enough without going overboard.

 

[topop101]

i believe toilet rings r 100% beeswax, inexpensive too, been using it 35 years 4 cabinet installs

They are bee's wax. Or most are. That's where I get mine. About a buck a ring. Banana wax is a different story. We got it in bricks at work. Had to use it to launch a casino boat onto the a lake. Not to be confused with the stuff they use on surf boards.

 

[bagged89s10]

They are bee's wax. Or most are. That's where I get mine. About a buck a ring. Banana wax is a different story. We got it in bricks at work. Had to use it to launch a casino boat onto the a lake. Not to be confused with the stuff they use on surf boards.

I'm going to have to try beeswax. I found that I'm allergic to Johnson's paste wax as it triggers asthma.

 

[Bunit98]

My dad bought this vise yesterday at a garage sale for 20$

It is a record vise made in England
It weighs 68.6 pounds

 

[xxaler]

My dad bought this vise yesterday at a garage sale for 20$

It is a record vise made in England
It weighs 68.6 pounds

Looks like a Record No.6. I use the hell out of mine every day and it never complains. Clean it up nice, and it will outlast the both of you. Replacement jaws are still available. I would advise making a custom handle, 13" is the perfect length.

 

[vintage nut]

Time to hit the buffer and make some morgan parts shine

you can never have too many tools

 

[vintage nut]

Here's some pictures of the buffing process. First off a before picture.

And here's the machine. 3/4hp baldor 332b 1700 rpm. Starting with an 8" spiral sewn wheel and 240 grit greaseless compound.

A little work in progress

And the result of the first step.

Now onto 400 grit greaseless, also on an 8" spiral sewn wheel.

you can never have too many tools

 

[Mohawk Dave]

vintagenut, what is greaseless compound? I have been buffing lately, but using rouge from HF and the cheapo Porter Cable set Lowes had on clearance.

I shall google in the meantime.....

EDIT: for all those who want to know: http://www.formaxmfg.com/greaseless-polishing-compounds

 

[trijeff]

A day of classic heavy metal, suds, and classic heavy metal ... what a perfect holiday weekend! Does it get any better than this??