First Wilton vise
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twertsy
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Looks lik it's just missing the horseshoe retainer.
drivesitfar
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JC: check out the vise repair 101 thread in the vintage tool section and you'll see what you have to do. it does have the horseshoe retainer that Twertsy is saying isn't there, but the screw isn't on the right side of it. hopefully you just need to remove the 3 screws and the retainer then screw the screw into the vise. then put back on the horseshoe retainer with 3 new screws. here's a drawing of your vise. this isn't your exact Wilton but it might help you.
also welcome to the forum and hope you stick around to learn and maybe teach us what you know.
cheers and good luck
if my fix doesn't work let us know and you might need some parts which a few members on this forum make or Wilton still sells new parts.
also welcome to the forum and hope you stick around to learn and maybe teach us what you know.
cheers and good luck
if my fix doesn't work let us know and you might need some parts which a few members on this forum make or Wilton still sells new parts.
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Sorry JC27 you have a much more serious problem. See by the collar that the spindle has an angled edge on it? That is supposed to be a flat edge like the front part. The spindle pulled right through that collar. That comes from poor maintenance before you bought it. You will need a Wilton spindle assembly 2900020 http://www.cappusa.com/wilton-825-2900020 and a new collar 2904010 http://www.cappusa.com/wilton-825-2904010.
KMScott has fixed these before but I don't know what the price would be.
You can also try find a used one there is a vise parts swap thread on here. Looks like it has to come from a 400 vise.
KMScott has fixed these before but I don't know what the price would be.
You can also try find a used one there is a vise parts swap thread on here. Looks like it has to come from a 400 vise.
KMScott
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Plum wore out, the link bluebolt sent is a great price if the quality is good and he nailed your problem. Here is a few pic's of a couple I repaired, if you have the ability to weld and machine them Private message me and I can give a few pointers. I could never repair a spindle in the shape of yours for $118. Good luck.
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That's impressive. How worn is the rest of the vise? That is a pretty tedious repair re cutting the groove and then reinstalling a handle. Not too difficult if you have a med sized lathe and welder. I had to repair a parker 955 screw that was not quite that bad. Might be able to find someone locally just to weld it up and re cut the groove then you can make your own handle fairly easily, but at the price for replacement parts vs time searching it could be a wash.
Kevin, how are you cutting the groove? Do you have a 4th axis on your machine? As always impressed, especially considering you don't have a lathe.
Kevin, how are you cutting the groove? Do you have a 4th axis on your machine? As always impressed, especially considering you don't have a lathe.
KMScott
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That's impressive. How worn is the rest of the vise? That is a pretty tedious repair re cutting the groove and then reinstalling a handle. Not too difficult if you have a med sized lathe and welder. I had to repair a parker 955 screw that was not quite that bad. Might be able to find someone locally just to weld it up and re cut the groove then you can make your own handle fairly easily, but at the price for replacement parts vs time searching it could be a wash.
Kevin, how are you cutting the groove? Do you have a 4th axis on your machine? As always impressed, especially considering you don't have a lathe.
zling, No 4th axis, in fact my 1995 Miltronics 04 does all my work. I rent a lathe in Boulder 35 miles from me once a month and save all my lathe work at once for a four hour lathe marathon. I usually have a 1/2 dozen handles, knob ends and one or two spindles to do. The spindles take much more time to calculate and then weld then the lathe work. Gotta be sure you have more then enough weld, I like to weld the last pass pretty cold so you do not have undercuts from the weld shrinkage when the bead cools. Takes about 15 minutes to re true and cut the groove. The new tooling now a days make this repair simple. one note is, you have to have good numbers, the groove to the end of the spindle is kind of a critical dimension since it establishes your back lash. I have never checked a good Wilton depth of pocket to flange thickness to see what their clearance is or what they like their vises backlash to be. I like .015.
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Hmmm mine might work. It's 14 1/2" long and would have to be cut down. What's the diameter of the threaded part? On mine a 22 mm wrench fits snugly if you don't have that size a 13/16 open end won't go on a 7/8 does and is a little loose.
The other issue is the length of the unthreaded part mine is 4 1/2" where yours is 4". Not sure it would screw in all the way before the threads bottom out. With the spindle out and the vise jaws fully together try putting a tape measure in the hole into it hits the main
nut.
The other issue is the length of the unthreaded part mine is 4 1/2" where yours is 4". Not sure it would screw in all the way before the threads bottom out. With the spindle out and the vise jaws fully together try putting a tape measure in the hole into it hits the main
nut.