454ragtop
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Saw one of those Craftsman 519X series vises yesterday at a local flea market, about a 4" jaw, was missing all the swivel base parts. He wanted $125, I passed.
Jim
Jim
The VISES of Garage Journal
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balane
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bluebolt, I've had dozens of the USA and Japan made 3 1/2" vises that otherwise look alike. In my experience the quality between both were identical. I know people love having Made In USA cast on the side so I do prefer getting those for resale but I don't personally find one to be any better than the other.
jreb, nailed it! That color is the closest I've ever seen. Nice job on tracking that down and any 519x I get in the future will definitely be sprayed with Cobalt Cannon. Thanks for sharing your find.
jreb, nailed it! That color is the closest I've ever seen. Nice job on tracking that down and any 519x I get in the future will definitely be sprayed with Cobalt Cannon. Thanks for sharing your find.
joe.striper
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topop101
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DRIVES I'm waiting on a reply. Once I find out if he's selling and how much I'll put you in touch.
And don't worry about the politics , If it wasn't for NAFTA most of the iron we collect would still be working in our factories. So there is at least a small up side to loosing 60,000 factories in the last 25 years. I have personally watched truck loads of our old iron head south , north and west to the ports. Loaded many my self with cranes.... Buyers like this Frank I run into from time to time are their pimps. He better stay out of my swing radius is all I can say.
Outlawmws
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Fretters
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CwazyWabbit
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She who must be obeyed
joe.striper
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ohhhh...that... well after 32 years she's a whole lot happier I'm in there bothering vises rather than bothering her!
sbosecker
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I've been trying to get everything on my Craigslist Yost 33C apart so I can clean it and paint it.
About all that was left to get out was the Vise Nut Locking Pin. Once that was out, I figured I'd be home free. Problem was, after a couple of weeks of soaking that Pin in PB Blaster coupled with occasional whacks with a hammer and punch had resulted in nothing more than some mushrooming of the punch's head.
Today I decided to play Tetris in my shop to get to my 12 Ton Harbor Fright Shop Press. That accomplished I got the Yost set up so that it was square to the press and used a 1/4-inch Socket Head Screw (5/16" long) to act as a driving pin.
I applied pressure to this setup and the Locking Pin started moving. I was expecting more popping and resistance but it wasn't bad. I quickly bottomed out the 1/4-inch Socket Head Screw so I reached into the vise and tried to release the Locking Pin. No Joy.
I now got a relatively short 5/16-inch Bolt and started pumping again. I had some popping but in a short amount of time the Locking Pin was out.
It was harder to get the Vise Nut out than I thought it would be. There was plenty of crud keeping it from sliding out so I got a dead blow hammer and a short piece of leftover Oak Flooring and tapped it out.
I worked over the Locking Pin with the Wire Wheel and it's a knurled pin just like the Pipe Jaw Pins. I also brightened up the Vise Nut with the Wire Wheel.
I hope to put the parts into the blasting cabinet in the near future and get this thing properly cleaned up for paint and lubrication.
When finished I think it will be a fine addition to my shop.
Pictures of locking pin removal attached.
Pictures of Locking Pin, Vise Nut and vise interior in next post
Scott
About all that was left to get out was the Vise Nut Locking Pin. Once that was out, I figured I'd be home free. Problem was, after a couple of weeks of soaking that Pin in PB Blaster coupled with occasional whacks with a hammer and punch had resulted in nothing more than some mushrooming of the punch's head.
Today I decided to play Tetris in my shop to get to my 12 Ton Harbor Fright Shop Press. That accomplished I got the Yost set up so that it was square to the press and used a 1/4-inch Socket Head Screw (5/16" long) to act as a driving pin.
I applied pressure to this setup and the Locking Pin started moving. I was expecting more popping and resistance but it wasn't bad. I quickly bottomed out the 1/4-inch Socket Head Screw so I reached into the vise and tried to release the Locking Pin. No Joy.
I now got a relatively short 5/16-inch Bolt and started pumping again. I had some popping but in a short amount of time the Locking Pin was out.
It was harder to get the Vise Nut out than I thought it would be. There was plenty of crud keeping it from sliding out so I got a dead blow hammer and a short piece of leftover Oak Flooring and tapped it out.
I worked over the Locking Pin with the Wire Wheel and it's a knurled pin just like the Pipe Jaw Pins. I also brightened up the Vise Nut with the Wire Wheel.
I hope to put the parts into the blasting cabinet in the near future and get this thing properly cleaned up for paint and lubrication.
When finished I think it will be a fine addition to my shop.
Pictures of locking pin removal attached.
Pictures of Locking Pin, Vise Nut and vise interior in next post
Scott
sbosecker
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The rest of the pictures of this phase of the Yost 33C cleanup.
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Nuts
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You said it better than me LOL. I am sure that Japanese Craftsman is every bit as good of quality as the earlier USA ones. Great for a user but not as good for a resale. I wouldn't mind having it myself!
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Garage Journal has done it again. I wasn't going I make an offer on a Wilton but now I'm picking up a mint condition Wilton tradesman 1760 tomorrow. I think at this rate, and since I've been prepping a few Parkers, and a Heinrich, I'll be painting 5 vises all pretty much at the same time.
econotrk
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Just a follow up on my 5198 tightness issue. Lead screw was slightly bowed, all's good now. Thanks to all who helped.
topop101
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zoomieport
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Cole anvil/vise?
02superduty
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Hello all, I picked up this Woden 186E/7 quick release vise. 4 1/4", 87 pounds . Actually I traded it for a wilton mechanics vise. The quick release pops off underneath every now and then besides that it functions fine. If anyone cans post a photo of there underneath and release handle that would be great. Any other info would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advanced.
Thanks in advanced.
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Outlawmws
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Top, those surface every so often. Interesting design, not very practical past maybe craft level. if you really beat on the "anvil" it won't last long... for someone like my jewelry making daughter, it would be great. Hammering soft copper and the like would be fine
drivesitfar
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02: nice looking Woden. i'm not even close to the expert on the quick release, but some of the guys from across the pond use and repair those almost daily so hopefully they can help you. can you take more pictures to post so they can see as much as possible? good luck and i also want to welcome you to the vise thread.
TOP: i agree with Zoomie that it's a Cole vise with sort of anvil attached and like Outlaw says for the right they have their use and they look great. they also had a drill attachment. i do like the clamps sitting behind it if you are going to be there looking at other vises or tools.
i think Frank might have heard you.
Joe: so your plans for the weekend were to work on a 175 pound and 100 pound vise and you post a 5 pound vise and a statue. did you do some horse trading Friday night? never a dull moment at the Stripper's home.
cheers
TOP: i agree with Zoomie that it's a Cole vise with sort of anvil attached and like Outlaw says for the right they have their use and they look great. they also had a drill attachment. i do like the clamps sitting behind it if you are going to be there looking at other vises or tools.
i think Frank might have heard you.
Joe: so your plans for the weekend were to work on a 175 pound and 100 pound vise and you post a 5 pound vise and a statue. did you do some horse trading Friday night? never a dull moment at the Stripper's home.
cheers
topop101
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Oh I know outlaw. I have a similar one. This one caught my eye because of the design T shaped. I was wondering if maybe it rotated or if it had a post under the vise. The seller is out of town with a dying mother and said he'll get back with me when he can.
I like the old relic stuff like this. Here's the other I have.
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Outlawmws
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Yep that the one you more commonly see. The T-Bone version is not near as common.
joe.striper
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Ive seen this piece twice, it accomplishes two things equally well, it makes a crappy vise and an even crappier anvil. Some design ideas deserved to die, this is one of them. It must have seemed cool at the time.....sort of like turbo charging a Corvair....
02superduty
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Thanks Drives I will get more photos.
Few of my vises + small anvil
Record No. 11 anvil - made in England
Record No. 100 vise - made in England
York 100 vise - under restoration
York 150 vise - under restoration
RAE No. 6 vise - Hamilton, Canada
+ Got a Record No. 5 with swivel base in the garage
Record No. 11 anvil - made in England
Record No. 100 vise - made in England
York 100 vise - under restoration
York 150 vise - under restoration
RAE No. 6 vise - Hamilton, Canada
+ Got a Record No. 5 with swivel base in the garage
Shiftless
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Joe (re:Corvair) : One of my all time favorite teenage recollections was at a high school senior car wash event where, besides the hot chicks in short shorts, I got to be the guy to move a customer's brand new, '65 Corvair Turbo to the other side of the car lot after it was cleaned. I was the only one with a license who knew how to drive a stick!
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classicJackets
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Charlotte guys again, here's a Rock Island. A little beat up but has the swivel base still..
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/tls/5005782964.html
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/tls/5005782964.html
UserNameAttempt3
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Anyone in AZ... BIG Wilton! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/tls/5051295608.html
454ragtop
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Calm down, it's the infamous import swivel head.
Yep, being sold by one of the residents of GJ. They ain't much more than that new.
wrenchguy
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Blue Frog
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I'll be in Charlotte next weekend and could pick this one, but the price is a little steep for one in this condition.
Blue
classicJackets
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A quick google search shows very little on Rock Island No. 74, so that makes it kinda neat in my book. That, and the huge looking swivel base. If I was in Charlotte, I'd have 2 new vises in my backseat today!
Blue, the one you should be looking to get is the $50 Wilton I Posted a page or two back. I agree with you on the price, though. Too rough for that.
edit: Wilton Appears to be sold..
Blue, the one you should be looking to get is the $50 Wilton I Posted a page or two back. I agree with you on the price, though. Too rough for that.
edit: Wilton Appears to be sold..
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Blue Frog
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Apparently, that Wilton is gone or I would have made contact already. It would have been a very short distance off I 77.
These Wilton's are good for flipping. I just sold a nice C1 for $150 more than I paid for it.
Blue
Shiftless
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Never seen one. It's hard to imagine how an operator could get the jaws tight together on a workpiece. I don't see any teeth like it had rack and pinion or something like that. You'd have to have good access to under your workbench top to loosen and tighten that big wing nut to get your swivel on.
Outlawmws
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I'd be making an offer on the lever vise, despite the old school wing nut swivel!