bagged89s10
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It must be worth so much because of the awesome craftsmanship of the included stand. Hahahahahaha lol
The VISES of Garage Journal
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It must be worth so much because of the awesome craftsmanship of the included stand. Hahahahahaha lol
KMScott
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I have found by working on the old Wilton's that they built the early ones with the holes to close to the body to accept a swivel clamp so they used a acorn nut. I've tried to add a swivel clamp to the ones I have and just did not fit, the handle hits. The acorn nut is shorter and sneaks in under the round body.
firemanast
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Looks great job well done !
Looks great job well done !
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bagged89s10
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Reed manufacturing vise 205R. I would bid if the top of the jaws were gouged.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=201367540632&globalID=EBAY-US
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=201367540632&globalID=EBAY-US
Blue Frog
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Did you intend to say "Reed manufacturing vise 205R. I would bid if the top of the jaws weren't gouged"?
bagged89s10
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drivesitfar
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Fireman: it's actually 99's Columbian that he bought, restored and had sitting nicely on the edge of his bench a day later. of course TOP has so many vises hitting the pages that it's easy to assume it's his especially when he posts a comment with another member's vise.
VA: What's in the water today? are you wanting us all to watch the show and if so can you give us the date and time and ebay link? have fun big guy and neither are small or big enough for me. that one is pretty unique with all the jaw options though.
Nuts: good to have friends that have time to go to sales and that don't need another vise. pretty sure all those were originally made with the acorn nuts and probably for exactly the reason that Kevin mentions.
Mark: pretty sure your unmarked vise is a 165 pound Prentiss #22 with 6 inch jaws. if you look close you can see a #22 on the top of the static just behind the swivel jaw. not saying you don't know your weight, but when i picked up my #22 it was sitting on a fork lift because the 6'4" old owner and his big friend couldn't lift it or didn't try. when i lifted it off the fork lift and put it in my Honda they offered to help and i let them just watch. half the fun of buying owning and using these monsters is getting to feel the weight of them even if you have to take it in 2 pieces like TJ probably did with his Prentiss #98. BTW i do own an inversion table to offset the effects of gravity and lifting some of this heavy steel. i would suggest you all buy and use one for 5 minutes a day.
VA: What's in the water today? are you wanting us all to watch the show and if so can you give us the date and time and ebay link? have fun big guy and neither are small or big enough for me. that one is pretty unique with all the jaw options though.
Nuts: good to have friends that have time to go to sales and that don't need another vise. pretty sure all those were originally made with the acorn nuts and probably for exactly the reason that Kevin mentions.
Mark: pretty sure your unmarked vise is a 165 pound Prentiss #22 with 6 inch jaws. if you look close you can see a #22 on the top of the static just behind the swivel jaw. not saying you don't know your weight, but when i picked up my #22 it was sitting on a fork lift because the 6'4" old owner and his big friend couldn't lift it or didn't try. when i lifted it off the fork lift and put it in my Honda they offered to help and i let them just watch. half the fun of buying owning and using these monsters is getting to feel the weight of them even if you have to take it in 2 pieces like TJ probably did with his Prentiss #98. BTW i do own an inversion table to offset the effects of gravity and lifting some of this heavy steel. i would suggest you all buy and use one for 5 minutes a day.
Nice score, adding it to the Wilton database.
GETRIDAONE
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I finally got around to working on the Emmert T5 that has been in pieces laying on the work bench for over a year. (seems longer) I had to cut out each side of the broken track which I was dreading and fit new pieces in. It allows the front jaw to adjust for wedge shape pieces. I made a new tee from a gas pipe fitting to replace the broken off spindle. The curved handle for the rotating pin was made from the crank off an old meat grinder. I still have to rig up the sliding bar and bracket that goes under the bench.
There are a lot of parts to this vise, I hope I can remember how they go back together
There are a lot of parts to this vise, I hope I can remember how they go back together
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oldldh
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Outlawmws
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It must be "Itty-Bitty Vise Month"...
Vintage Antique Small 2 Size Jaws Jewelers Vise...
On Ebay with $ 9.99 starting bid...
And $ 20.05 shipping...it's in Clare, Michigan...
I'm not bidding on this one, but some of you will...
That one is sort of vintage and Asian made (Japan IIR). I had one as a kid. I busted it tightening it too tight. That chromed plate at the back is the main screw nut, and was cast, and I popped the threaded sleeve section out of the plate, leaving this hole...
10 bucks ain't too bad, the $20 shipping is silly money and about double what it should be to ship. Thirty total is WAY too much. I keep passing on them at $15 locally.
Outlawmws
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p.s.: When those grew up they grew into those infamous chicom vises that get posted all the time for $75-200, and sell for 70 new at HF...
oldldh
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Oh...
drivesitfar
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Outlaw: what can you feed a medium vise like a Reed 104 to grow up into a 208? 
i'm guessing just Benjamins, but maybe you have another answer.
Oldie: i think the handle for the vacuum might be missing on that little guy too, but Outlaw would know better.
Get: do you have all the pieces and parts? good luck getting it all back together because as i get older i have to put things back together quicker so i can have half a chance of remembering how they do.
i'm guessing just Benjamins, but maybe you have another answer.
Oldie: i think the handle for the vacuum might be missing on that little guy too, but Outlaw would know better.
Get: do you have all the pieces and parts? good luck getting it all back together because as i get older i have to put things back together quicker so i can have half a chance of remembering how they do.
Outlawmws
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Drives. it's there; see pic #1 a lever coming out of the base.
va.grouseman
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Drive,---Here's the link to the Wilder All Shapes.---Already $515.00.---I'm not sure that a $2000.00 snipe is going to take it at this rate.---I may have to go to $3000.00.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321774610153?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Outlaw,---so you are saying that if I buy that little baby vise for $30.00, water and fertilize it, I would have a $60.00 Chicom in a few years.---That's a 100% return.---That's not bad.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321774610153?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Outlaw,---so you are saying that if I buy that little baby vise for $30.00, water and fertilize it, I would have a $60.00 Chicom in a few years.---That's a 100% return.---That's not bad.
jakemac
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I did a Bad, Baaaaaad thing today.
I picked up this Reed 3C at the FM this morning. You can read the sad tale here.
There's about a 1/2 turn of slop in the handle, but it's smooth enough to turn with 1 finger.
After I cleaned a little of the grime off the slide I noticed that there seems to be some brazing where the slide meets the dynamic jaw, but it was done really well and is only noticeable by the color. It's only on top (you can still see traces of the original black paint on the sides), so I don't think there are any problems to worry about. (last 2 pics)
Both the main handle and the lock handle have a little bend to them. I don't think a BFH will straighten the main handle, as it's 7/8" thick. I guess I'm just going to have to put a shop press on my want list. 
The only thing missing is one of the pipe jaw pins. It has a bolt filling the hole right now.
This is one of the early ones of this style. It still has the bulb nose, cast-in jaws, and PAT. PEND. cast into the side.
The newer pug nose models are listed at 120 lbs, but this one weighs in at 112 lbs. So either they got heavier, or my scale is off.
I picked up this Reed 3C at the FM this morning. You can read the sad tale here.
There's about a 1/2 turn of slop in the handle, but it's smooth enough to turn with 1 finger.
After I cleaned a little of the grime off the slide I noticed that there seems to be some brazing where the slide meets the dynamic jaw, but it was done really well and is only noticeable by the color. It's only on top (you can still see traces of the original black paint on the sides), so I don't think there are any problems to worry about. (last 2 pics)
Both the main handle and the lock handle have a little bend to them. I don't think a BFH will straighten the main handle, as it's 7/8" thick. I guess I'm just going to have to put a shop press on my want list.
The only thing missing is one of the pipe jaw pins. It has a bolt filling the hole right now.
This is one of the early ones of this style. It still has the bulb nose, cast-in jaws, and PAT. PEND. cast into the side.
The newer pug nose models are listed at 120 lbs, but this one weighs in at 112 lbs. So either they got heavier, or my scale is off.
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Anyone know anything about this Rock Island No. 6?
Bought a very old Rock Island vise from a local guy and cannot find out anything about it. Aside from the strange swivel assembly, it has the number "6" cast into it while the jaws are actually 4.5" wide. I haven't measured the opening, but this is a LONG vise and weighs 76 lbs.
It's in exceptionally nice condition, and look forward to restoring it. I'm a bit concerned that the paint may be toxic, so will need to think about how to handle that. Anyone have any info on how old this vise is??
Bought a very old Rock Island vise from a local guy and cannot find out anything about it. Aside from the strange swivel assembly, it has the number "6" cast into it while the jaws are actually 4.5" wide. I haven't measured the opening, but this is a LONG vise and weighs 76 lbs.
It's in exceptionally nice condition, and look forward to restoring it. I'm a bit concerned that the paint may be toxic, so will need to think about how to handle that. Anyone have any info on how old this vise is??
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bagged89s10
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GETRIDAONE
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Exmaxima1. I bet that was originally a bottom, through the bench mount with a stud. The base was drilled and tapped with the machine screw. Is there any sign of a threaded hole under the base ?
Nope. The pivot pin for the swivel is integrated with the main screw nut. When you remove the dynamic jaw, the pin/nut falls out. You can actually lift the entire vise off the swivel base just by loosening a set screw.
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Wow, you nailed it! Did you find that on the net or did you have that in your archives? Thanks!!!
BTW, it looks like the original finish was "dead black", which is what this vise looks like. With any luck it is in decent original condition and will only need a good cleaning.
topop101
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topop101
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I did a Bad, Baaaaaad thing today.
I picked up this Reed 3C at the FM this morning. You can read the sad tale here.
There's about a 1/2 turn of slop in the handle, but it's smooth enough to turn with 1 finger.
After I cleaned a little of the grime off the slide I noticed that there seems to be some brazing where the slide meets the dynamic jaw, but it was done really well and is only noticeable by the color. It's only on top (you can still see traces of the original black paint on the sides), so I don't think there are any problems to worry about. (last 2 pics)
Both the main handle and the lock handle have a little bend to them. I don't think a BFH will straighten the main handle, as it's 7/8" thick. I guess I'm just going to have to put a shop press on my want list.
The only thing missing is one of the pipe jaw pins. It has a bolt filling the hole right now.
This is one of the early ones of this style. It still has the bulb nose, cast-in jaws, and PAT. PEND. cast into the side.
The newer pug nose models are listed at 120 lbs, but this one weighs in at 112 lbs. So either they got heavier, or my scale is off.
JAKE... yeah "you ****". I've been begging a friend to sell me his 2C that he has just collecting dust and he won't budge. I have dreams of those picks at FM's like you made... well done
va.grouseman
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Bagged,---your Wilton clone looks like a rebranded Taskmaster.---So it would be a clone of a clone.
Xxmayima1,---here's one with the swivel pin.---They operate just like the Versa-Vise.---When you clamp on to something, the swivel locks with the internal cam mechanism.---Pretty good idea, but probably not meant for heavy duty work.
Nice score there.
Xxmayima1,---here's one with the swivel pin.---They operate just like the Versa-Vise.---When you clamp on to something, the swivel locks with the internal cam mechanism.---Pretty good idea, but probably not meant for heavy duty work.
Nice score there.
bagged89s10
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I emailed the seller out of curiosity and he/she said it weighs 45lbs.
Nuts
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Not only is it a knock off, the dynamic has a crack under the jaw.
One more whack with a BFH and off she goes.
Nuts
One more whack with a BFH and off she goes.
Nuts
Nuts
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KMScott, Drives, thanks for the info on the Wilton acorn nuts.
I kind of like the idea, just have a dedicated box end wrench near by.
I may even have a wrench older than the vise to use, time to go digging.
Nuts
I kind of like the idea, just have a dedicated box end wrench near by.
I may even have a wrench older than the vise to use, time to go digging.
Nuts
Fretters
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That Industrial one? Can't see any crack in the photo. Whereabouts? Only thing I can see is a seam from the casting process.
I did a Bad, Baaaaaad thing today.
I picked up this Reed 3C at the FM this morning. You can read the sad tale here.
There's about a 1/2 turn of slop in the handle, but it's smooth enough to turn with 1 finger.
After I cleaned a little of the grime off the slide I noticed that there seems to be some brazing where the slide meets the dynamic jaw, but it was done really well and is only noticeable by the color. It's only on top (you can still see traces of the original black paint on the sides), so I don't think there are any problems to worry about. (last 2 pics)
Both the main handle and the lock handle have a little bend to them. I don't think a BFH will straighten the main handle, as it's 7/8" thick. I guess I'm just going to have to put a shop press on my want list.
The only thing missing is one of the pipe jaw pins. It has a bolt filling the hole right now.
This is one of the early ones of this style. It still has the bulb nose, cast-in jaws, and PAT. PEND. cast into the side.
The newer pug nose models are listed at 120 lbs, but this one weighs in at 112 lbs. So either they got heavier, or my scale is off.
Yea that a great score and would have had a very hard time also walking past that Reed. I have never seen one in the wild yet. I am sure you will do a great job getting it looking and working good again.
Nuts
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Could be just a casting mark, but down near the connection to the round tube it looks like a split.
Sure not gonna buy it to find out.
Nuts
topop101
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sbosecker
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All right you vise gurus...
Can anyone ID this vise from this poor shot?
This is from a picture of an upcoming estate auction. The small picture of a bench with tools was made smaller when I clipped out this portion. It looks like it might have a movable static jaw and what's up with that little "roof" over the screw hub?
Is that lighting or is that really there? Either way maybe it will help ID this rascal.
Best regards,
Scott
Can anyone ID this vise from this poor shot?
This is from a picture of an upcoming estate auction. The small picture of a bench with tools was made smaller when I clipped out this portion. It looks like it might have a movable static jaw and what's up with that little "roof" over the screw hub?
Is that lighting or is that really there? Either way maybe it will help ID this rascal.
Best regards,
Scott
drivesitfar
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Scott: it's most likely a Prentiss #20 with a 5 inch wide jaw. it looks like a hunk of the static jaw is missing when i blew it up some, but picture pretty small so getting distorted when it gets close to being able to see it. if you go to the auction measure the jaw width and there should be a # on top of the static jaw just behind the swivel jaw
drivesitfar
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Ex: that is one very cool Rock Island vise and even cooler that ZK had the catalog page handy. hold on to that one because first one i know of, but VA or another member might know of another one.
Jake: how the heck did you carry that out of the FM? or did they let you back your pick up to the table it sat on? nice find and sorry to see it has a damaged and braze weld repaired dynamic. how does it compare to the 6 inch Columbian you own? That would be a perfect welding bench vise if you have a big enough bench or i guess you can make a stand for it.
Jake: how the heck did you carry that out of the FM? or did they let you back your pick up to the table it sat on? nice find and sorry to see it has a damaged and braze weld repaired dynamic. how does it compare to the 6 inch Columbian you own? That would be a perfect welding bench vise if you have a big enough bench or i guess you can make a stand for it.
sbosecker
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DrivesItFar,
Thanks! I did a quick search on Prentiss and agree that seems likely. Might not be as big as a 20.
The auction is some distance from me and is for the estate of an uncle of mine. I was just curious when I saw the vise among the tools. Didn't want to bother my cousins with silly questions at a time like this.
I don't know if I'll go to the auction or not but we'll see... might be a good excuse to go visit my dad on Father's Day!
Best regards,
Scott