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SMLWinds

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I am looking to buy a battery charger. I need it for batteries in everything from cars to antique tractors to boats to my skid steer and excavator.

I know almost nothing about battery chargers except that I need one. What do you guys recommend? I want to buy the best available--money is not an issue so don't hesitate to throw out expensive options if they are superior in quality or performance.

Thanks for your help!
 
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SMLWinds

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Thanks so much! So, since I admittedly know little to nothing about them, any guidance on what to pick for charging a wide variety (I have everything from 6V antique tractors to heavy machinery).

I hate to sound stupid, but is the most expensive one the best or are there things the less expensive ones do that the more expensive ones can't? (ie-can the more expensive chargers do everything and then some compared to the less expensive)

I haven't compared stats, but I assume the roll around chargers are stronger/faster but obviously more bulky? I don't mind having the roll around charger, but if a portable one did the exact same thing I would get that.

Thanks again....I appreciate you helping the ignorant!
 

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Here ya go: http://www.usabatterychargers.com/
I bought one for my son and one for the son-in-law.
Powerful units, well made.
Pick the nicest one you can afford and enjoy.
CHeers,
JimDon

Not to hijack the thread but thanks for the link. I see that they also sell heavy duty booster cables in a 20 foot length - that's going on my list to pick-up (among all the other things I get from this forum). Thanks again. :beer:
 

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Just get one that meets your specific needs. Higher amps for faster charging or boost features, different battery types etc...
 
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SMLWinds

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Is there a good one out there that allows you to do 6V batteries in addition to 12 and 24V or will I need another charged to do those? I have small 6V batteries in my antique tractors. Thanks!
 

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Is there a good one out there that allows you to do 6V batteries in addition to 12 and 24V or will I need another charged to do those? I have small 6V batteries in my antique tractors. Thanks!

Go to the link in Post #2, then go to "Portable Chargers" on that site. The first model (#52PY) does 6, 12, & 24 Volt batteries, and is suitable for "Conventional, Maintenance Free, AGM, Gel Cell, Deep Cycle and Marine Batteries". A bit pricey but looks like a good all around charger that will meet your needs.

They have a similar roll around charger (#H624) for a bit more money. The specs don't look much different from the 52PY.

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Thanks! I coincidentally just hit "send" on an email to USA Battery Chargers asking them about the differences between H624 and 52PY. They look very similar to me. I don't mind having a roll around charger but it looks to me like the H624 isn't much better, is more expensive, and is larger in size. So, seems like the 52PY would be a better choice for versatility.

Does anyone have any other thoughts on the H624 vs. the 52PY? I lean towards one of the those. The NOCO chargers look good but I would have to buy 2 of them to cover all my needs so I would probably rather just go with a single nice unit.
 

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Yes, those are nice battery chargers, but they are OVERKILL for the average DIY person. (And IMHO, overpriced!)

In general, battery chargers come in 2 flavors. Higher power (10A and up) chargers and low power (2A and less) maintainers. Some chargers are "2 in 1". Some even 3 in 1, giving a very high charge rate (50A) for a short time.

Any decent charger/maintainers today has some "smarts" built in to prevent over chargeing.

Maintainers (the most popular being the Battery Tender) are great for most people. The only down side is, they can take 48-72 hours to fully charge a battery. (It took over 48 hours to charge my boat battery on a Battery Tender Jr., but its max charge rate is only ¾A.) They are good because their slow charge rate is "easy" on the battery.

High rate chargers will get the job done quicker but will also heat up the battery a lot, which is not the best for it.

6V/12V charger used to be very common, less so now a days Finding one that does 6V/12V and 24V might be impossible.

Personally, I like Schaumacher. The 5216-PE is a 6/12V 2/10/50A charger that works well and is frequently on sale for less than $50.
 

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not too knowlageable on chargers but seems he would need a large capacity charger for starting and and a maintenace one to maintain the batteries at other time.
 
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I have a couple of different chargers for the purpose of maintaining or recharging a battery. Having many various batteries may be a reason for having some battery tenders that keep the charge up on infrequent use rigs. The batteries will last longer if they are not subject to full discharge and recharge. In winter I pull some of the batteries out of stored rigs and keep them in the shop and use the battery maintainers on them.

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My 2 preferred brands are Ctek and BatterMinder

NOCO, I'd take it with a grain of salt. A BUNCH of their amazon reviews appear to be schilled PAID reviews
 
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Thanks for the responses! I did hear back from USABatteryChargers.com. I told them my needs and asked for a recommendation and for a comparison between the H624 and 52PY. First of all, they said that for my more heavy duty applications (I am assuming my super duty truck, skid steer, excavator, etc.) that most portable chargers would not suffice. As for comparing the models, the H624 is the 52PY model on wheels--they are identical but just more mobile on wheels. The 52PY unit weighs 50 pounds so "portable" is somewhat relative. The H624 is probably more "portable" in the end.

Those chargers do in fact do 6, 12, and 24V batteries. Furthermore, correct me if I am wrong, but they have options for fast, medium, and slow charge. I understand what has been said about charging batteries too fast and it not being good for them but if I were in a pinch and needed the battery ASAP the fast charge option would be nice to have.

While I know it is expensive, I am planning to buy the H624 (awaiting responses to this thread before hitting "buy"). It seems like a quality unit that is in many ways the "cadillac" of chargers. I think it would suit all my needs with one machine instead of buying 2 and has all the options I would ever want. In short, it is the most expensive but I think there are legitimate reasons why it is more expensive (namely, versatility). Whenenver I buy a lower end or cheaper model of something I end up regretting it down the road--saving the price of a nice steak or two is not worth it in the long run. I feel like if I buy a cheaper charge that doesn't have the option to charge faster, I will kick myself the first time I need my boat or excavator and have to wait days for the battery to charge.

With that being said, I still profess my relative ignorance and remain very much open to various opinions. Thanks again!
 

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Appears you've made a pretty sound decision on what to buy. Seeing you have some pretty large equipment and batteries, if I were in your shoes, I'd buy the same thing. You won't be disappointed with their equipment or their service.
Good luck to ya. BTW, I have no connection to the company except being a very satisfied customer.
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Those chargers do in fact do 6, 12, and 24V batteries. Furthermore, correct me if I am wrong, but they have options for fast, medium, and slow charge.

Both models show to have a 2 amp trickle charge rate. With that and their response, I think the H624 is a good choice for you. I'm leaning toward the 52Y simply because it'll give me more options for storing it out of the way. But, I'm going to wait until I get a little further along on my workshop as I may change my mind if I end up with a convenient place for the H624.

The heavy weight of these units is indicative of the quality heavy duty components.

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H624 ordered! I think it will be a great unit that is very versatile and durable. Thanks for everyone's help!
 

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Yes, those are nice battery chargers, but they are OVERKILL for the average DIY person. (And IMHO, overpriced!)

In general, battery chargers come in 2 flavors. Higher power (10A and up) chargers and low power (2A and less) maintainers. Some chargers are "2 in 1". Some even 3 in 1, giving a very high charge rate (50A) for a short time.

Any decent charger/maintainers today has some "smarts" built in to prevent over chargeing.

Maintainers (the most popular being the Battery Tender) are great for most people. The only down side is, they can take 48-72 hours to fully charge a battery. (It took over 48 hours to charge my boat battery on a Battery Tender Jr., but its max charge rate is only ¾A.) They are good because their slow charge rate is "easy" on the battery.

High rate chargers will get the job done quicker but will also heat up the battery a lot, which is not the best for it.

6V/12V charger used to be very common, less so now a days Finding one that does 6V/12V and 24V might be impossible.

Personally, I like Schaumacher. The 5216-PE is a 6/12V 2/10/50A charger that works well and is frequently on sale for less than $50.


6/12/24 isn't impossible because the site linked offers them.
 
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SMLWinds

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So I bought the H624 and it looks like a solid unit. I just hooked up my 6V antique tractor battery to it.

So, now for a question to show my ignorance--how do I know when the battery is done charging? I put it on 6V and slow charge....is there a way to make sure it is done or do you just leave it for a certain amount of time. Clearly I have a lot to learn....I appreciate the help!
 
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Help....anyone know anything about the usabatterychargers.com chargers? How do I know when the battery is done? Any help is appreciated!
 

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Help....anyone know anything about the usabatterychargers.com chargers? How do I know when the battery is done? Any help is appreciated!

I would think that the instruction manual would give you this information.

At the risk of sounding stupid, I don't understand why one would need a heavy duty battery charger. If you keep all of your batteries on small, inexpensive maintainers, your batteries all should be fine and ready to go at all times. If they're not, you've got either a charging system problem or a bad battery.

I've never in my life had to charge a dead battery as the charging systems in all of my vehicles work and the batteries all are in good condition. If a battery does go dead it's because either the battery has a bad cell or the charging system isn't working.

Like I said, at the risk of sounding stupid...
 
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The "instruction manual" is a half page of bullet points on a piece of construction paper. I would think you would get much more with a $400 charger but I didn't. The same instructions that are on the paper are painted on the charger.

I don't know much about batteries, but I think there are certainly times when a charger is preferred and better for the battery's "health" and function than charging it with the machine it is powering. I may be wrong...
 
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