vintage nut
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IH machinery, YOU ****
This will make sense later
you can never have too many tools
This will make sense later
you can never have too many tools
The VISES of Garage Journal
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Outlaw, that vise was a No. 26 vise unless Hollands wasn't consistent. Weird eh?
ironhorsemachinery
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Well, here is what he was referring to ... Picked up this very nice Reed No. 32 on a local classified add for $40 (Canadian -- that's about 32US these days). It is in great shape, and will be a great user once all restored. Here are pictures:
Sorry they're all sideways - can't seem to figure out how to rotate them
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And thanks to VintageNut for helping me load it in the truck and then carry it into the shop [emoji3]
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What are good sons for
That Reed is old, very nice, and a combo with jaws in tact!
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What are good sons for
That Reed is old, very nice, and a combo with jaws in tact!
Yes, it is in really nice shape. It has obviously been used gently over its long life. No hammer marks on the slide, no real dings anywhere. Jaw serrations are still sharp, and pipe jaws also sharp. Only damage is one of the mounting lugs is broken off. Just a little surface rust that mostly wipes off.
How old would it be? Patent dates of 1912 and 1914, but I have no idea how long after that the cast them that way.
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Ironhorsemachinery: vintagenut is right you do ****. That is a great looking vise.
drivesitfar
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IH: Good things come to good guys and you even got the pipe jaws and the huge wing nut that are usually missing. nice and a great price for an old US vise. i'm guessing 1920's.
I tried to turn the pictures of your Reed by saving them, rotating them and posting them and they still turned up sideways. maybe your vise is an alien so bring it with you when you come for a visit and i'll dispose of it properly.
I tried to turn the pictures of your Reed by saving them, rotating them and posting them and they still turned up sideways. maybe your vise is an alien so bring it with you when you come for a visit and i'll dispose of it properly.
Hemi49
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Latest Hollands from a block sale:
A little 13-1/2H (3-1/2" jaws)
A Hollands 13-1/2 I bought a couple weeks ago.....A slightly different base than yours.....
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I tell you, for a 4" vise, it sure is a heavy sucker! I'm guessing it's probably at least as heavy as his 5" henry. And that's a pretty beefy vise for an English pattern!
you can never have too many tools
you can never have too many tools
ironhorsemachinery
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IH: Good things come to good guys and you even got the pipe jaws and the huge wing nut that are usually missing. nice and a great price for an old US vise. i'm guessing 1920's.
I tried to turn the pictures of your Reed by saving them, rotating them and posting them and they still turned up sideways. maybe your vise is an alien so bring it with you when you come for a visit and i'll dispose of it properly.
Thanks for the generous offer [emoji3]
Next time I'll try lying on my side to take the picture...
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Hemi49
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Pretty weird; 63 doesn't see to have anything to do with it being a No 13-1/2H...
My 13-1/2 Hollands has 26 stamped on the LH side of both jaws.
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vintage nut
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Ive found sometimes with my phone that unless I turn it sideways to take the picture, it will do that.
you can never have too many tools
you can never have too many tools
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Anybody looking for one of these?
Craftsman 5197 on San Diego, CA Craigslist asking $300
No pictures!? ... Nope, no pictures
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/tls/5106866252.html
Craftsman 5197 on San Diego, CA Craigslist asking $300
No pictures!? ... Nope, no pictures
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/tls/5106866252.html
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Bo: Beautiful work! In particular the lettering!
How did you apply the paint? Artist brush? Paper towel dauber? Makeup sponge? ?????
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drivesitfar
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IH: maybe laying on your side next time will help when you take pics of an alien vise, but i doubt it. my offer still stands
T-Bo: very nice and is that steel bench going to be it's new home?
ALL: anybody have a favorite tool and method of drilling 1/4 inch or thicker steel plate? i have some cutting oil and sharp bits and big drills, but no mag drill yet.
T-Bo: very nice and is that steel bench going to be it's new home?
ALL: anybody have a favorite tool and method of drilling 1/4 inch or thicker steel plate? i have some cutting oil and sharp bits and big drills, but no mag drill yet.
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Thanks guys,
As for the lettering I went with the little paint brush. I was worried I'd make a big mess with the daubing method even though I know it works well for a lot of guys.
Thanks Drives,
As for its new home, I'll have to get pictures at work tomorrow. I am mounting it on my knaack rolling work bench. I made a custom sleeved stainless pipe mount so that I can remove the vise and lock it when I'm on jobsites.
The steel table shown is my home bench that has this newer craftsman 6" mounted to it.
As for its new home, I'll have to get pictures at work tomorrow. I am mounting it on my knaack rolling work bench. I made a custom sleeved stainless pipe mount so that I can remove the vise and lock it when I'm on jobsites.
The steel table shown is my home bench that has this newer craftsman 6" mounted to it.
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CwazyWabbit
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CW: those Fortis swivel jaws are really cool engineering design.
Thrumcap
They are very well built heavy duty construction (for a swivel jaw) and easy enough to maintain as the swivelling jaws just lift out so you can clean out anything that's jamming them.
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drivesitfar; [B said:
Drives,
I've always step drill holes. Using an air powered drill & a 1/4" bit for the first hole and increase the size until I get to the size I want.
vintage nut
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I've done a bit of that drilling where it won't fit on a drill press. Definitely cutting oil. I personally use the black pipe threading oil. Start with 1/4" and step up in 1/4" increments until you get the size you need. For smaller holes I really like the milwaukee 1/2" magnum drills. For anything 1/2" and up I have an old t handle black and decker. Spins at about 400 rpm, and has a pipe handle.
you can never have too many tools
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CwazyWabbit
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Very nice little and large of the vise world you have there
drivesitfar
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Joe: you are practically an assembly line of vises now. nice variety too. so what determines when you paint a slide or not? if you have plenty of clearance you paint and if it's tight then shiny bare steel?
VN & Mark: thanks for the drilling tips.
All: I'm looking for more tips if anybody has any because i need to drill 3/4 inch holes in 1/4 and thicker steel plate soon. anybody want to warn me about using a 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch 50 year old drill with new drill bits?
VN & Mark: thanks for the drilling tips.
All: I'm looking for more tips if anybody has any because i need to drill 3/4 inch holes in 1/4 and thicker steel plate soon. anybody want to warn me about using a 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch 50 year old drill with new drill bits?
joe.striper
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Drives, I NEVER paint a slide. On this one the slide saw a lot of use but not abuse so I wire wheeled it and lightly sanded it. The color you see there is a natural patina just like the spindle. I like the buyers to see the vises condition and on a large expensive vise like this buyers want to insure no cracks. That also why i like to polish the sides of the jaws.
On my Parker 626 I highly polished the slide because it was sooo clean.
drivesitfar
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Joe: so you are saying you didn't paint the red on the slide of the little Athol? i see where you have a small strip on the top of the slide that you didn't paint, but i was talking more about the sides of slides which i never paint unless clearance is there so it won't scrape the paint off.
Oxy-acetylene torch?
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JRobb: good idea and its on my list of purchases. while we are talking about the oxy/acy is that the best system to use when brazing or what is the best option for that?
Joe: i'm not saying you are doing something wrong and not trying to get into a long story about why or why not we paint slides. i just saw that you painted the Athol slide and just asked.
ALL: does anybody else see paint on the Athol's slide or do i need to buy a new laptop or get better reader glasses?
Joe: i'm not saying you are doing something wrong and not trying to get into a long story about why or why not we paint slides. i just saw that you painted the Athol slide and just asked.
ALL: does anybody else see paint on the Athol's slide or do i need to buy a new laptop or get better reader glasses?
bagged89s10
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Use a step drill or just work your way up with different size drill bits. Another option is a hole saw. I used to use a hole saw to drill 5/8" holes in 1/4" thick steel for chassis 4 link brackets. Just always use some sort of cutting oil.
vintage nut
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For a big old drill, I'd definitely want sharp new bits. With how easily those things will break your arm, I'd want the bits to cut as well as possible.
Are these holes for bolting down a big vise with those monel 400 bolts? If it's not super critical tolerances, I'd probably say step up in 1/8" increments to reduce the chance of accidents. Say 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 5/8, 3/4. I'd suggest using the slowest drill you have. If you have a 3/4" drill I'd definitely use that! And I'd want at least a foot long pipe as the side handle. I've done 3/4" (although in cast iron) with my old 1/2" black and decker from the 30s, and although it went just fine, I wouldn't really want to go any bigger with it
you can never have too many tools
Are these holes for bolting down a big vise with those monel 400 bolts? If it's not super critical tolerances, I'd probably say step up in 1/8" increments to reduce the chance of accidents. Say 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 5/8, 3/4. I'd suggest using the slowest drill you have. If you have a 3/4" drill I'd definitely use that! And I'd want at least a foot long pipe as the side handle. I've done 3/4" (although in cast iron) with my old 1/2" black and decker from the 30s, and although it went just fine, I wouldn't really want to go any bigger with it
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drivesitfar
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Bagged: thanks for the tips
Balane: can you post a picture of the paint can you use for the Sawyer vise you just posted on Ebay? that is an amazing looking little vise and not surprised it's getting a lot of attention with still 2 days to run on the auction. are you still baking vises in the oven and at maybe 250 degrees for 30 minutes? here's the auction in case you missed the link a couple days ago.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/26195375512...38.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&rmvSB=true
VN: yes i'm going to use the 3/4 inch bolts to mount my Reed 4C and maybe my Reed 2C if they are not too big. thanks for the tips and warnings
CW: yes I've had those big drills catch a little while drilling access holes for wiring in wood and it wasn't fun and almost broke my wrist or worse.
Balane: can you post a picture of the paint can you use for the Sawyer vise you just posted on Ebay? that is an amazing looking little vise and not surprised it's getting a lot of attention with still 2 days to run on the auction. are you still baking vises in the oven and at maybe 250 degrees for 30 minutes? here's the auction in case you missed the link a couple days ago.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/26195375512...38.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&rmvSB=true
VN: yes i'm going to use the 3/4 inch bolts to mount my Reed 4C and maybe my Reed 2C if they are not too big. thanks for the tips and warnings
CW: yes I've had those big drills catch a little while drilling access holes for wiring in wood and it wasn't fun and almost broke my wrist or worse.
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CwazyWabbit
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It's when they break through the other side you have to be careful as that's the most likely time for it to catch.