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I was having my truck looked at and while sitting in the waiting room of the repair shop looked down next to my chair and saw what's in the pic. I have no idea if the wires are/were hot but it just seemes like a very bad idea to have a mess of exposed wires rolled up and laying next to the metal leg of a chair...
 

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If they repair wiring in their shop like that, how do you think they will repair your truck ?

Hmmm, something to think about.
 

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If they repair wiring in their shop like that, how do you think they will repair your truck ?

Hmmm, something to think about.

chances are the boys in the shop have nothing to do with the wiring in the waiting room
 

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chances are the boys in the shop have nothing to do with the wiring in the waiting room

^^^^^^^^ This^^^^^^


Actually, I think it's common everywhere you go. I guess they figure no one is actually going to mess with it. And really, who is?
 
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There was probably a j box there and it got busted off.

Id br surprised if it was energized but u never know....

Why not bring an inductive tester and find out?

If its live, inform the management...
 

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chances are the boys in the shop have nothing to do with the wiring in the waiting room

Not sure the mechanics are probably not the one that leave it like that... but the management allows it to hang like that is serious question the shops integrity. You get good mechanics/bad mechanics.... it's up to the management's decision to stand up to the issue and fix it ...... allowing things to slip like this doesn't give a warm fuzzy feelings. Sometimes presentation is everything.
 

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If they repair wiring in their shop like that, how do you think they will repair your truck ?

Hmmm, something to think about.

My thought exactly - even if they don't do their own electrical, with such wonderful attention to detail (I mean, pay a fix-it guy $30 to fix it if you can't, Mr. Owner) I can't wait to see the quality and attention to detail on your vehicle.

Even if they're dead... like... WTF? :headscrat And if they're not...

I'd make sure I could take my vehicle home at night. Or have good fre insurance on it!!!
 
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I say get a group of these guys and a megger, do some testing and then kick his ***.
March right in there,,, we're from the internet !!!!!!!!!!
 

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I mentioned Key West but another dandy that is a matter of time is all those food vendors at carnies. The company ones seem pretty good but some of the independants are rather creative to say the least and its obvious they do not have a very ridged inspection. I saw a 3 to 4 cobble job sitting around in the rain, I know if the real electric inspector was thru there it would have had a stop order.
I don't make a scene but don't whisper to my kids to stay away from it.
Last notable electric accident was at as city marina, all the work done by who was sposed to be doing it. They were aware is part of the issue and while the kid was in a no swimming area there is not sposed to be a fault.
Probably more dangerous than a lot of obvious things.
I got shocked on a piece of equipment at a farm, owner cobbled some switch and directly wired power to a metal box in a cord.
 
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I know its a difficult concept to comprehend but most equipment in the world has something wrong with it. Most of the faults do not stop it, do not cause injury or accident. Many cost additional money, many fade once the equipment becomes obsolete.
Not every old tire blows up, not every crappy weld fails and odds are when it does its its overloaded, partially broke, breaks in the driveway and in this case would likely see progressive failure over prolonged time.
Last failure I directly seen with a trailer hitch connection was on the truck. He tells me,,, factory installed legal hitch. I ask when, well 23 yrs ago when he got the truck, been trucking all over the Midwest with this pos and aint looked at it once.
I get a first hand look at a lot of equipment, I go to the fair and I look, look at people there, another one is horse trailers and a broad and I am suspect right away.
They always got a "cant afford it" story.
I had one come in to my drive, in the summer, 1 working brake left a skidmark and she wants me to fab a drop hitch extension to the step bumper to a 78 pickup aint got a working tail light, rusted from one end to the other so she can hook on a 4 place horse trailer.
I tod her I was taking her license number and calling the state police and going on record to say this trucvk was unfit for service and should be condemd before it leaves here and she should be charged with gross negligence is she hooks a trailer to it.
 

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For electric its extended circuits and about 4 times out of 10 it involves a missing box connector type install, good share of the time has something in one flavor or another to the original installer.
The same people that are on this boat every time it comes up don't seem to be on the march for auto inspections which by the prevailing logic in this thread should save lives on a wholesale scale.
The mfg innovation of the equipment has been the main factor in safety. Grounded wiring was such a leap and resisted but relatively statistically eliminated electrocution. Tell most people something aint grounded and they really don't care, they been using it fine for 20 yrs, they do not stop and run to the store for supplies and new tools.
Someone posts a pic and we got to send a team to straighten the guy out, really wanna do something, fix someones brakes for free, that would be putting something behind it.
 
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I like the original question, I really like the responses, gives some real deep insight in to the workings of the human mind. This is a huge cross section of the way humans perceive risk/reward.
The real money,, which the studied class knows is where its upside down. It shows up in the tool debates. Look how much money is spent on warranty concerns? To all but dumb azz Sears.
 

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We had a guy come on here and ask,,, is it better to buy 1 Channelok for 20 or spend 40 at Sears cause they have a lifetime warranty. Was worried the other might not be warranted for his grandkids or something.
Could own 2 pairs today for the same upfront cost. There is also mark down pricing. You can buy the same wrench which cost 50 at the top end under a sub label for 25 cents or so on the dollar. As many are sold at the top.
Some of the same risk concerns here, you don't touch it there is very little, if this was a childrens playground or water park, hooked to energized equipment people were in contact with then the concern level goes up.
 
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If shop is legit otherwise and these are dead wires, just point it out to office manager that wire needs fixed BEFORE you'll give the shop any repeat business.

IF wire is ENERGIZED, then tell office manager that it needs fixed ASAP before you put in a phone call to city inspection department.
 

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My work bought an old Dairy Queen for use as a storage facility. You should see the conglomeration of stuff on the back side. And the roof. Wires hanging out everywhere, open conduit runs, etc. Fuse panels, breaker panels. More inside too. It's in the city, same one that hammers people on inspections. Nobody ever looked at that mess, apparently.
 
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