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Cost: Rust Bullet vs. Epoxy

bedn0009

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It seems as though RB is less expensive than an epoxy floor... is this accurate? I do believe it's easier to apply and more "fool proof" but what's the finished sq ft breakdown of RB vs a QUALITY epoxy?

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It seems as though RB is less expensive than an epoxy floor... is this accurate? I do believe it's easier to apply and more "fool proof" but what's the finished sq ft breakdown of RB vs a QUALITY epoxy?

Thanks

Rust Bullet is absolutely more fool proof than an epoxy floor. The biggest issue we have seen is an aesthetic one where in some installations there are roller marks. Other than that the biggest mistake people can make is waiting to long to do the second coat. The second coat needs to be done within 24 hours -- less if the humidity is above 70%

You have to understand though that when you say epoxy, you are speaking of a very very wide variety of products. Some home centers sell very inexpensive epoxy that is very very thin and you could get that cheaper.

Also understand that we have Rust Bullet customers who will do color coats, full broadcasts or even random broadcasts that necessitate additional coats. That drives up the cost.

Like a lot of garage flooring, the best thing I can compare it to is buying a car. A mustang GT convertible might be a great car in some places for some people but it does not work well for my family of 8 living in Colorado. Our Tahoe is a better fit.

There are applications where (quality 100% solids or 93% solids)epoxy is a better fit than Rust Bullet. Epoxy goes on much thicker and will do a much better job of dealing with a floor with a lot of flaws. Its a thick build and it just simply covers more.

Rust Bullet has some pretty incredible testing http://www.garageflooringllc.com/2015/03/05/rust-bullet-testing-summary/ but what really impresses me is some of the ridiculous applications it has put up with. I can't find the one I am looking for at the moment but there is one where they have coated a cement surface in an exterior environment and run ridiculous amounts of water over it. Here are a couple that could be a challenge for some products.

http://www.rustbullet.com/projects/wetalla-sewerage-treatment-plant-clarifier

http://www.rustbullet.com/projects/california-recycling-plant

All of this said, pricing and 'best fit' are all based on a job by job basis. There are many times I have talked to a customer and was leaning one way but by the end of the conversation another way made more sense. Sometimes its a toss up.

For a straight forward garage in good condition and no prior coating Rust Bullet has a lot to offer. To be fair, you should look at an apples to apples comparison, based on your specific job and I am happy to do that with you.

3 or 4 times in the last couple days I have told people neither make sense. You just have to look at the details... Each and every time
 
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Justin,

You and I have spoken... here is my scenario:

-Brand new 32 x 28 slab that was poured 14 days ago
-Shop will be used for woodworking and storage
-The slab was not sealed by the contractor (per suggestion from you)
-I am not opposed to the RB color
-I would add some type of flake
-Based on what we're reading the last few days, I absolutely want some type of anti-skid

I'm not sure in my scenario which is ideal...the slab is perfect, I don't use a ton of harsh chemicals, I just want it to look good, be durable and provide for ease of cleanup. Now... I need to figure out cost.

Thanks
 

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Justin,

You and I have spoken... here is my scenario:

-Brand new 32 x 28 slab that was poured 14 days ago
-Shop will be used for woodworking and storage
-The slab was not sealed by the contractor (per suggestion from you)
-I am not opposed to the RB color
-I would add some type of flake
-Based on what we're reading the last few days, I absolutely want some type of anti-skid

I'm not sure in my scenario which is ideal...the slab is perfect, I don't use a ton of harsh chemicals, I just want it to look good, be durable and provide for ease of cleanup. Now... I need to figure out cost.

Thanks

Ok. Let's talk. Give me a call at the office to discuss.
 

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Just priced out a RB FUll broadcast system with EXTRA coat of gray due to grinding and two coats of clear. Flake figured at sq. ft. / 5.

At the same time I priced out a full broadcast epoxy system with primer, base coat, top coat (epoxy UV clear due to CA) and same flake as above.

This specific job was in CA

Rust Bullet was at 2.54/Sq. Ft and Epoxy was at $2.92

The numbers would be different outside CA and RB would have been less if no grinding had to be involved.
 
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Guys, two coats of thin urethane over a full flake floor can be a dirt trap, over time.

Urethane is only a few mils thick per coat at best. Leaving hills and valleys behind that will trap dirt from your car tires.

Either add further coats or consider an epoxy or polyurea for your clear coats. Polyurea can be applied up to 10 mils thick per coat, epoxy too.

Putting the urethane down thick is a mistake as well. It will fail if applied too thick.


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Two is leaving a rough surface. We make a good living correcting mistakes left by inexperienced installers and that is a big one.


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Two is leaving a rough surface. We make a good living correcting mistakes left by inexperienced installers and that is a big one.


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Appreciate the input. We have not had that issue with the Rust Bullet product. Obviously the more coats you put on the smoother it gets. With RB 2 seems to be ideal. If your looking at doing full broadcast here is a thread that did it with RB and it has a link to some better shots as well. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288903

You are also dead on about putting product on too thick. Urethane or even some of these 'home center epoxy' products just will not cure right and will leave solvent bubbles. That's a mess you don't want for sure.
 
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