On a Harley: Flare Nut Crowfoot vs. Socket?

[rhp]

For spot light adjustment which is complicated by a wire on the nut, the Harley manual recommends using a Snap-On 9/16", 6-Point, Flare Nut Socket, (FRX181). See: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=2122&group_ID=262

What is the downside of using a 9/16" 6-pt Flare Nut Crowfoot instead of the Flare Nut Socket?

 

[TopFuel]

Can the nut be dealt with using a regular open end wrench?

 

[rhp]

Can the nut be dealt with using a regular open end wrench?

No, it can't, but maybe the clearance issue is the reason for using a socket over a crowfoot. Thanks

PS - on a HD forum someone answered the question: The nut is a bit recessed in the mount, the socket is needed for this.

 

[porschedude996TT]

For spot light adjustment which is complicated by a wire on the nut, the Harley manual recommends using a Snap-On 9/16", 6-Point, Flare Nut Socket, (FRX181). See: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=2122&group_ID=262

What is the downside of using a 9/16" 6-pt Flare Nut Crowfoot instead of the Flare Nut Socket?

What year and model?

 

[TopFuel]

Any pics of the spot mount?

 

[TopFuel]

What year and model?

Ditto. I assumed an FLH model since a spot was mentioned.

 

[Merkava_4]

Did Harley-Davidson actually recommend that crows foot by brand and part number? Jeez, talk about being in bed with each other....

 

[rsanter]

if you can get the crowsfoot and extension on then there is no disadvantage to doing that.

bob

 

[Deafautotech]

Did Harley-Davidson actually recommend that crows foot by brand and part number? Jeez, talk about being in bed with each other....

i have harley factory service manual. it has lot of snap on tools that factory service manual provided a snap on tool numbers... Snap on tools headquarter in Wisconsin as same with Harley Davidson headquarter in Wisconsin....

 

[bmxr4life87]

48oz deadblow ballpeen harley wrench

 

[malibu101]

i have harley factory service manual. it has lot of snap on tools that factory service manual provided a snap on tool numbers... Snap on tools headquarter in Wisconsin as same with Harley Davidson headquarter in Wisconsin....

Well, if the manufacturer says/reccomends a special tool at least it's an "easy" to get SnapOn instead of how GM refers you to a Kent-Moore number.

 

[kiall1987]

Did Harley-Davidson actually recommend that crows foot by brand and part number? Jeez, talk about being in bed with each other....

Quite alot of workshop manuals will refer to snap on , some i know that do is briggs and straton , Kawasaki , Yamaha , Honda

Well, if the manufacturer says/reccomends a special tool at least it's an "easy" to get SnapOn instead of how GM refers you to a Kent-Moore number.

So true in auto data all gm stuff is referenced to kent moore

 

[X1 Mike]

To do the job the easiest way you also need the holder. Motion Pro sells one that I like but if you wanted to you could easily make one yourself along with modifying a socket you already have. I can't see a crowfoot fitting in there.

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0141/

 

[forceyoda]

It could be to reach the spec torque easier instead of having to do all the caculations with the standard crowsfoot.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

It's not a crowfoot socket, it's a flare nut socket.

 

[rhp]

To do the job the easiest way you also need the holder. Motion Pro sells one that I like but if you wanted to you could easily make one yourself along with modifying a socket you already have. I can't see a crowfoot fitting in there.

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0141/

I looked at the motion pro but I'm puzzled. It looks like a flat flare wrench so I cannot understand how that will fit in a place that a crowfoot won't.

BTW - '99 FLHTCUI

 

[forceyoda]

It's not a crowfoot socket, it's a flare nut socket.

Ment to say flare nut crowsfoot, either one you have to recalculate the torque.

 

[X1 Mike]

I looked at the motion pro but I'm puzzled. It looks like a flat flare wrench so I cannot understand how that will fit in a place that a crowfoot won't.

BTW - '99 FLHTCUI

You use them both together. After you take the screws off that hold the turnsignals on you screw the Motion Pro tool to the spotlight with the supplied wingnuts. That is when you use the S-O socket to tighten the lamp while holding the M-P tool so the lamp doesn't turn. If you notice the M-P tool has a cutout for the socket to fit.

 

[rhp]

You use them both together. After you take the screws off that hold the turnsignals on you screw the Motion Pro tool to the spotlight with the supplied wingnuts. That is when you use the S-O socket to tighten the lamp while holding the M-P tool so the lamp doesn't turn. If you notice the M-P tool has a cutout for the socket to fit.

Thanks, Mike

Another question for you: is the lamp adjustable only in the horizontal plane?, or will the socket and motion pro tool allow me to adjust it in the vertical plane as well?

 

[X1 Mike]

It's kind of a ball and socket arrangement so you can adjust any way you need.

 

[rhp]

It's kind of a ball and socket arrangement so you can adjust any way you need.

Thanks, again.

 

[TopFuel]

How does this socket work to adjust the spot without first removing the turn signal that hangs below it? A photo would help.

 

[TopFuel]

I looked it up. Yes, the turn signal is first removed using an allen/hex wrench then the 9/16" locking nut on the spot lamp can be dealt with using the fancy Snap-on socket which clears the wire. I was thinking an open end wrench could be used but maybe the mounting bar that the spots hang off of limit the clearance? Don't know, I sold my Ultra Classic years ago