My take on the H-F beadroller

[Nortonscustom]

Had some 1/4'' plate left over from another project so I figured it was time to rework my H-F beadroller. Haven't decided what I'm going to do with the handle yet. Did up a seat pan for a buddy today and it worked really well.

Norton

 

[GN4WHLN]

Very cool. I have an HF roller and am going to stiffen that bad boy up a little. I would like to motorize it too. I suppose i could by a good professional one, but what fun would that be?

 

[Rocket]

Ok
I'll bite

Here's mine. (sorry blurry pics on my phone)
3 Phase powered by a .55kw motor & angle drive reduction box (22 rpm)
I have wired up a VFD so it has forwards, reverse & speed control in both directions.
I programed it to ramp up to the set speed, but to stop dead as soon as I take my foot off the pedal.
Yes, a pedal to start & stop, that way all hands free opperation.
I can inch it ever so slowly with the pedal which give me a lot of control.

I wouldn't be with out it

 

[Brad54]

Ok
I'll bite

Here's mine. (sorry blurry pics on my phone)
3 Phase powered by a .55kw motor & angle drive reduction box (22 rpm)
I have wired up a VFD so it has forwards, reverse & speed control in both directions.
I programed it to ramp up to the set speed, but to stop dead as soon as I take my foot off the pedal.
Yes, a pedal to start & stop, that way all hands free opperation.
I can inch it ever so slowly with the pedal which give me a lot of control.

I wouldn't be with out it

Damn. There's no kill like overkill! Awesome tool.

-Brad

 

[lilredex]

Nice jobs on both!! Never seen one as sturdy as yours Rocket.........you could roll the whole car through there without ever taking off the fender. Foot pedal looks like my GE Explosion proof model, that I use on everything.

 

[Jim Stabe]

Ok
I'll bite

Here's mine. (sorry blurry pics on my phone)
3 Phase powered by a .55kw motor & angle drive reduction box (22 rpm)
I have wired up a VFD so it has forwards, reverse & speed control in both directions.
I programed it to ramp up to the set speed, but to stop dead as soon as I take my foot off the pedal.
Yes, a pedal to start & stop, that way all hands free opperation.
I can inch it ever so slowly with the pedal which give me a lot of control.

I wouldn't be with out it

Damn, that's seriously stiff! While you were building in all that stiffness, why didn't you make a deeper throat? I stiffened mine up like most others have done and powered it with a HF 12v winch but the only thing I miss is the throat to get to the center of the floorboards I need to make.

Jim

 

[GN4WHLN]

That is sooooo cool. Now you have me all jacked up to improve mine. Jim, do you have any pictures of the HF winch setup?

 

[Rocket]

Damn, that's seriously stiff! While you were building in all that stiffness, why didn't you make a deeper throat? I stiffened mine up like most others have done and powered it with a HF 12v winch but the only thing I miss is the throat to get to the center of the floorboards I need to make.

Jim

You'd be surprised.........it still bends & twists

As far as depth, I did consider it, but a lot more work to do it.
The frame evolved over a period of time. It wasn't planed like that.
I just kept beefing it up & it still moves
I rarely do panels any wider then 3' so unless it starts to happen, I'll be happy with what I've got.

P.S. I have a Vibro Shear with a ***********, so I could always use it if need be

At least with foot control it leaves me free to steer & also adjust the pressure for a tapering roll like this one. Except for a mark left from the end of the die (shown in texta )

 

[Jim Stabe]

That is sooooo cool. Now you have me all jacked up to improve mine. Jim, do you have any pictures of the HF winch setup?

If memory serves, I used a 1 1/4" bore sprocket from Surplus Center https://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?UID=2009062210215924&catname=powerTrans&keyword=PH40
on the turned down cable spool. The release lever allows the motor to be disconnected and the steering wheel attached to turn by hand. I find it easier to do straigh runs on the motor and then use the handwheel to go around tight corners. I run it from one of the jump start kits that HF sells. Runs a long time on a charge.

 

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[Doug19]

If memory serves, I used a 1 1/4" bore sprocket from Surplus Center https://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?UID=2009062210215924&catname=powerTrans&keyword=PH40
on the turned down cable spool. The release lever allows the motor to be disconnected and the steering wheel attached to turn by hand. I find it easier to do straigh runs on the motor and then use the handwheel to go around tight corners. I run it from one of the jump start kits that HF sells. Runs a long time on a charge.

Do you happen to remeber what winch it was from HF. How may RPM do you think it does. I trying to get something in the range of 3- 10 rpm without having to have a huge gear on it.

 

[Jim Stabe]

Do you happen to remeber what winch it was from HF. How may RPM do you think it does. I trying to get something in the range of 3- 10 rpm without having to have a huge gear on it.

The sprocket ratio is 15t - 29t and it gives an no load speed of 17 rpm. I find that it is easier to do straight or slightly curving sections at a faster speed to avoid wandering. Here is the HF winch http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92860
and the starting unit
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38391

 

[GN4WHLN]

If memory serves, I used a 1 1/4" bore sprocket from Surplus Center https://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?UID=2009062210215924&catname=powerTrans&keyword=PH40
on the turned down cable spool. The release lever allows the motor to be disconnected and the steering wheel attached to turn by hand. I find it easier to do straigh runs on the motor and then use the handwheel to go around tight corners. I run it from one of the jump start kits that HF sells. Runs a long time on a charge.

I like your setup including the steering wheel which, I bet, is much easier to use than the handle that comes with the kit. Thanks for the help.

 

[Rocket]

I don't need a handle (or steering) wheel for mine.
It is completely controlable as is.
I can slow it down to less than a crawl or even inch around corners if need be with the pedal.
Even with support for a panel, to have your hands free to guide it makes life much, much easier
I can do a tapering beads on my own, which I could never have done before I powered mine the way I did.
I will certainly be using VFD's on future equipment

 

[stricht8]

I welded some angle iron all around mine. Still walks a little but much beter.

 

[tdoty]

John, is that you? You should show off that e-wheel too! Still one of my favorites.

My beadroller was reinforced with some 1 1/2" square tube and powered by a 90vDC Dayton motor with a Leeson controller.



Tim D.