Snapon KRA Series

[D Jones]

Whats up all. First post here but iv'e been getting great advise for a long time thru this site. I'm looking to purchase a set of Snapon KRA Boxes this weekend Model #'s - 3800, 3810 & 3860. The gentleman is asking $850 dollars for the set and the only issue is the middle box large drawer needs a new slide. Aside that they're in great shape liners have been used.

I don't have a lot of knowledge other than looking at similar comps and general research and reading i'd like to get some solid advise of what a fair price is for the set. Here is a photo-



Pic of the slide-



Thank you.

 

[GCS]

The slide will be warranted by Snap-On.

Fair price.

 

[bobcatdan]

Only detractor is the 3000 series is friction slides. That's really not a big deal and it looks like you know that. Otherwise I like the KRA boxes. $850 isn't terrible, but a little high for me.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Looks like a pretty good deal to me, that's a lot of storage space and the boxes look to be in great shape. Snap On will warranty the slide with no problem.

If you'll excuse me, now I'll sit back and wait for a HF fan boy to tell you to buy two 44" HF boxes.

 

[Sam'sAutoParts]

As a HF owner, I think that is a good deal, I bet there is way more storage there then 2 HF 44" boxes. Skip the HF, get those Snappys

 

[dr_clyde]

Buy it. Where are you located? I have essentially the same box, and it's great. I would kill for that middle box.

 

[thegroundpounder99]

I'd happily hand over his asking price. That's a nice box and slides easy fix.


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[G-Ram]

That is a great deal in my opinion. Around here, people would be asking $1500-2000 for that same setup...

 

[Super Sport]

First off, that's a good deal on those boxes. I didn't realize that SO sold that style box with friction slides. Similar boxes around here would sell for close to $2000, although I think most that I've seen have ball bearing slides.

I will add however, that I had a KRA box with the ball bearing slides, and wasn't impressed. I would argue that they are barely a step up from any of the store brand boxes.

 

[bobcatdan]

One thing I spot on that box, the casters were changed. That box would have come with 5x2 casters. Pretty damn sure those are the newer style 6x2 casters.

 

[D Jones]

Wow! Thank you for all the responses. I'm located in Arizona north of the Phoenix metro area. These boxes are located about 1 hour south of me. I don't mind the slide design and I like the fact in a matching set. The rep from Snap On told me they're a decent box but about 20 years old. Tried to sell me a 7000 dollar similar brand new setup LOL. And also told me they only warranty to the original owner and if it's been sold to me they will not honer any warranty. Anyone have a way around that?

 

[dr_clyde]

Yeah, get a new dealer lol. They will warranty the slides. If you have to, send them in to cooperate.

I refuse to buy a brand new box because they depreciate so much. I have warrantied several sets of slides; I bought my top chest used because it had been tipped over.

Btw, that middle box is ball bearing, and is much newer. The top and bottom also have one more drawer row each than the newer offering.

 

[FJ 432]

I think your driver is being short sighted. He could easily warranty the slides for very little money and have you as a customer for life. I believe he's angry that you're not buying his box. Try Snap On.com.

BTW the previous owner took great care with that box. Boxes in that good of condition are hard to find. 850 is fair.

 

[zkling]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are sure it just needs a slide and not the slide channel which is welded to the side of the box? If that is the case the only way to "replace" it is to replace the box. Which may be under warranty for the original owner and not a 2nd or so on owner. Just something to check out.

Edit, is that even the correct slide? Looks like someone stuck a waterloo style slide in there. :

 

[bobcatdan]

Yeah, get a new dealer lol. They will warranty the slides. If you have to, send them in to cooperate.

I refuse to buy a brand new box because they depreciate so much. I have warrantied several sets of slides; I bought my top chest used because it had been tipped over.

Btw, that middle box is ball bearing, and is much newer. The top and bottom also have one more drawer row each than the newer offering.

Based on the model number and the picture, the middle box is friction slides. While I agree based on the emblem, its newer. SO offered that box in both friction and ball bearing slides. Kra4xxx are ball bearing, kra3xxx are friction slides.

 

[D Jones]

This is all great information guys I really appreciate it. I will check the slide tomorrow to make sure there is no further damage aside that. To bad I couldn't upgrade the slide for the middle box.. it would be nice to have that large drawer as ball bearing. Is there anything else I should check out? and advise is welcome. Thanks.

 

[Rosso]

If possible without being rude I'd check the inside of the box by removing a drawer, the KRA series aren't particularly well painted inside.

As above, not been impressed with my KRA for the above reason.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Be sure to check out all the drawers and make sure they slide well. Also, for the drawer with the suspect slide, pull it out of the box and check the slide channel as zkling said. Give the boxes a thorough inspection, front, back and side.

Don't be afraid to offer less for the box if you see some minor issues that will need some attention.

If your driver is going to be a jackass about warranting some of the slides, go around him and call Snap On customer service and tell them you need the slides warranted. btw, they've never required me to send in the old slides.

 

[D Jones]

Ok sounds good. I'm not all the concerned with the inside of the box being completely painted. I will never see it anyways. If the slide is genuine Snap-on will it have it stamped in the slide? From the paint ware it looks to have been broken for quite some time I just hope there isn't any further damage from that issue.

 

[D Jones]

Ok, I went to check out the box and it's in good shape but the slide attached to the box itself is damaged. The middle box large drawer. Also the bottom box 3rd drawer down is starting to ware out pretty good to.

Question is can I get a replacement slide/bracket for the inside of the box or a ball bearing replacement set? It almost appeared to have two slides for the large bottom drawer in the middle section model # KRA 3810- There were holes drilled. I didn't purchase the box yet I want to look at my options to fix it first.

Here are a few pics of the damage to the slides-

Middle box bottom drawer-



Bottom box 3rd drawer down-

 

[Hammer1963]

Ok, I went to check out the box and it's in good shape but the slide attached to the box itself is damaged. The middle box large drawer. Also the bottom box 3rd drawer down is starting to ware out pretty good to.

Question is can I get a replacement slide/bracket for the inside of the box or a ball bearing replacement set? It almost appeared to have two slides for the large bottom drawer in the middle section model # KRA 3810- There were holes drilled. I didn't purchase the box yet I want to look at my options to fix it first.

Here are a few pics of the damage to the slides-

Middle box bottom drawer-



Bottom box 3rd drawer down-

OUCH! If and I say if the slide mounts are available, then the fix is not bad at all. If they are not available, then fabricating is an option that I personally would not be afraid of, but I have vast experience with such items. Without saying, this is a HUGE bargaining chip for you on price. In my eyes, that should be worth a minimum of $250.00 off and I say minimum because most people would walk away after finding this damage. If you can make a good deal on these and handle the repair, you'll have a great setup.

 

[D Jones]

Thanks man. I appreciate the feedback. I'll touch base with him and see what we can work out. He's a nice guy so I want the end result to be fair. He's at 850 and we haven't talked about price much. If nothing was wrong 850 would be a fine price but considering the work ahead and cost of parts i'm thinking 600 bucks and I make something work from there. What do ya'll think?

 

[Hammer1963]

Thanks man. I appreciate the feedback. I'll touch base with him and see what we can work out. He's a nice guy so I want the end result to be fair. He's at 850 and we haven't talked about price much. If nothing was wrong 850 would be a fine price but considering the work ahead and cost of parts i'm thinking 600 bucks and I make something work from there. What do ya'll think?

Do some research on parts availability and go from there. I agree with not wanting to be fair and not insulting the guy. If you were located in my area I'd offer to help you on the repair if it is something you are not comfortable with.

 

[D Jones]

Thanks man. I'm fine with addressing the repair. I wouldn't mind some good advise of how to best go about it though. I would love to fab up some ball bearing slides for that drawer. Maybe the kra4xxx series of that box slides would fit up in there. Drill and rivet them in. What is the best way to remove the bracket attached to the box? Drill out the spot welds?

 

[Hammer1963]

Thanks man. I'm fine with addressing the repair. I wouldn't mind some good advise of how to best go about it though. I would love to fab up some ball bearing slides for that drawer. Maybe the kra4xxx series of that box slides would fit up in there. Drill and rivet them in. What is the best way to remove the bracket attached to the box? Drill out the spot welds?

Take good measurements and I would also make a nice paperboard profile template of the existing slide mounting area along with some good photo work. I would recommend grinding the spot welds away to preserve as much metal on the cabinet panel as possible. As long as you can get comfortable access to your repair areas, you should be able to perform a nice clean and reliable repair. On another note, take a stroll around your local hardware store/supplier and look around at what's on the shelves and see if can find any donor material for the repair. You may be surprised at what has the same bend and radius profile on those mounts. Think "J" shaped steel.

 

[Kiwi 007]

I've got a Snap On box that had the same problem, I purchased a set of ball bearing slides and used a spot weld drill to remove the friction slides from the drawer and the box.

After the friction slides were off I just fitted up the ball bearing slides in the slots that were already there and secured them with a screw.

After re looking at your pics your box has the cut outs for the ball bearing slides but your drawer doesn't.

 

[bobcatdan]

If he is the original owner and willing to work with you, have him get a hold of SO. Granted this could be considered wear, but I would see what SO would do for warranty. This would probably invovle a SO rep, the next step above a dealer. Maybe a waste of time, but then again what's the point of lifetime warranty. They will replace worn out ball bearing slides, why not do something for friction.

 

[D Jones]

I've got a Snap On box that had the same problem, I purchased a set of ball bearing slides and used a spot weld drill to remove the friction slides from the drawer and the box.

After the friction slides were off I just fitted up the ball bearing slides in the slots that were already there and secured them with a screw.

After re looking at your pics your box has the cut outs for the ball bearing slides but your drawer doesn't.

Do you know which ball bearing slides you ordered?

 

[iScream]

Seeing that damage makes me wonder how far the rest of the box is from having similar problems.

 

[Vinko]

I'd buy it even with those problems. A few years ago you could get the channels into which the slides went. You can also get nearly-to-spec OEM casters for a lot less than from SO.

One problem with these boxes I've found is that if the the sides are at all tweaked, you're going to have problems with any retrofit -- so the sides have to be parallel.

Having said that, hell, if I were in your area, I'd come in and swoop that thing for $1000 from the seller right now