another GCFI question

[diesel06]

i have detached 42 by 27 mortan building, concrete floor, are gcfi outlets required or can i use regular outlets

 

[cowboyjosh]

Depends on proximity to water. Need more details on your building.

 

[engineer2]

Depends on local code, but required near wet areas like sinks and bathrooms.
115VAC 20 amp circuits with 12 gauge wire is the norm for industrial buildings and residential bathroom outlets around here, GFCI for the bathroom, but not for regular outlets..

 

[diesel06]

no bathroom in the garage, ill have a small sink in the corner but thats it. pennsylvania is the location

 

[theoldwizard1]

In some locations, if you have a concrete floor, ALL receptacles need to protected by a GFCI.

 

[Stuart in MN]

Pennsylvania uses the 2008 edition of the national electric code (NEC.) Per NEC article 210.8(A)(2), 120vac 15 amp or 20 amp receptacles in a residential garage or accessory building need to have ground fault protection.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Op is this a residential garage or something else?

 

[toyotadriver]

You should do what your area requires. Since my area doesn't require them, I just put in regular outlets in my shop building.

 

[Shiftless]

You should do what your area requires. Since my area doesn't require them, I just put in regular outlets in my shop building.

Did you ever get a shock from a faulty electrical part? Did anybody you know ever touch a worn extension cord and get shocked? I do. He couldn't let go of the cord because his hand muscles locked up. If the neighbor wasn't nearby to yank the cord from the outlet, he would now be dead.
How much money will you save by omitting one or two GFCI outlets? Twenty bucks? Think about it.....

 

[tfi racing]

Did you ever get a shock from a faulty electrical part? Did anybody you know ever touch a worn extension cord and get shocked? I do. He couldn't let go of the cord because his hand muscles locked up. If the neighbor wasn't nearby to yank the cord from the outlet, he would now be dead.
How much money will you save by omitting one or two GFCI outlets? Twenty bucks? Think about it.....

Yeah,maybe.Now please tell us how an AFCI saved your puppy's life at the orphanage and we can all shed a tear together...

 

[rsnip988]

Yeah,maybe.Now please tell us how an AFCI saved your puppy's life at the orphanage and we can all shed a tear together...

lol

 

[Norcal]

GFCI's do work well and are not expensive, if a residential outbuilding they are required, non dwelling garages, service bays, and similar areas do require them per 210.8(B)(8).

 

[diesel06]

the building is just a work shop, no living quarters or anything like that, i guess it would be classified as residential, its not a new build, it was built in the 70s not being inspected just updated the wiring and i want to do it the right way and i priced gfci, they are pricey compared to regular outlets. would all the outlets have to be gfcis? im running two circuits for outlets, 6 on one 6 on the other

 

[sberry]

Put them in.

 

[FordTruckWench]

would all the outlets have to be gfcis? im running two circuits for outlets, 6 on one 6 on the other

You might only need two GFCI receptacles. Install them as the first device on each circuit. This way they'll protect all downstream receptacles.

Or you could install two GFCI breakers.

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

Yeah,maybe.Now please tell us how an AFCI saved your puppy's life at the orphanage and we can all shed a tear together...

 

[Shiftless]

the building is just a work shop, no living quarters or anything like that, i guess it would be classified as residential, its not a new build, it was built in the 70s not being inspected just updated the wiring and i want to do it the right way and i priced gfci, they are pricey compared to regular outlets. would all the outlets have to be gfcis? im running two circuits for outlets, 6 on one 6 on the other

Just put a GFCI receptacle first in line on each of your two circuits. Use regular receptacles on the rest of your receptacles on that circuit. Follow the directions included in the box. You will only have to buy 2 GFCI's.

 

[Norcal]

Yeah,maybe.Now please tell us how an AFCI saved your puppy's life at the orphanage and we can all shed a tear together...

Since when did anyone mention snake oil AFCI's ????

 

[diesel06]

Just put a GFCI receptacle first in line on each of your two circuits. Use regular receptacles on the rest of your receptacles on that circuit. Follow the directions included in the box. You will only have to buy 2 GFCI's.

ok cool, ill just do it this way,that will save me in having to buy 12 gfci outlets

 

[toyotadriver]

Did you ever get a shock from a faulty electrical part? Did anybody you know ever touch a worn extension cord and get shocked? I do. He couldn't let go of the cord because his hand muscles locked up. If the neighbor wasn't nearby to yank the cord from the outlet, he would now be dead.
How much money will you save by omitting one or two GFCI outlets? Twenty bucks? Think about it.....

None of those horrors have ever happened to me or anyone I know.

I only have GFCIs in exterior outlets and kitchens and bathrooms. Everything else is regular outlets. I sleep well at night.

 

[Shiftless]

None of those horrors have ever happened to me or anyone I know.

I only have GFCIs in exterior outlets and kitchens and bathrooms. Everything else is regular outlets. I sleep well at night.

The guy I mentioned was using an electric weed eater, standing on wet grass, with a bad extension cord...(torn insulation exposing a conductor) plugged into an outdoor receptacle NOT protected by GFCI. Yeah, he was stupid for not replacing or repairing the cord but maybe the death penalty is too harsh for stupidity.
Right after I heard his story, I upgraded all my outdoor receptacles (on my 64 year old house) to GFCI even though I toss damaged extension cords.

 

[rsnip988]

ok cool, ill just do it this way,that will save me in having to buy 12 gfci outlets

That's what I did, but I have 35 outlets on 7 breakers so it would have cost me considerably more to go all GFCI outlets or breakers!