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The Bronco is looking sharp! Very nice work to both you and the daughter. That truck is going to turn some heads that's for sure.

Daughter pretty please right now, me too as think it turned out great. A great father daughter project. We were both starting to wonder if it would ever see the light of day.

Those are amazing. :thumbup: What materials did you use to prep and paint the panels?

We used SEMS plastic/vinyl paint. We spent a hour or two prepping by first washing with a splash of "Magic Soap" and steam cleaner, then using a pretty warm water scrubbed them with Ivory dish soap and a worn gray scotch brite. The cloth and fabric portions she used RIT dye into boiling water, a rubber glove with a white sock over it. By adjusting the amount of dye to water ratio and how many coats you put will adjust the darkness. Also works perfect on faded carpet. (this carpet is nice so did not use it this time)

Terrific work as always!! Drooling over the Bronco!!!

Promise to get some better quality pics before she leaves with it.

So awesome to see you feeling better and making progress on these two inspiring projects. Good for you!

But you mentioned your Dad invented some tools that we still use today... I'm dying to know more about this, you glazed right over that. Share the story!

Oh, and you probably already know this, but I just gotta mention it. PLEASE have her buy new tailgate cables for the Bronco. I noticed one is distorted, and the sheath on the other one is cracked and exposing the rusty cable. I'm sure you've seen what happens when they break. That would just be awful to that newly refurbed tailgate. Last set I bought, were like $25 for the pair.

Thanks! A truly enjoyable time doing the project with her. I seldom did any work unless she was there helping . .

I will have to ask older relatives on the "tool" story so I get it right.

Cables: AZ sun killed the outer plastic but cable itself is still shiny. I will double check to make sure. Plan was to get it "together" then address tiny things like the cables. Deadline to have it done is here. We still need to move her out of her apartment, use the bronco to pick up a small trailer for the move etc.



Looks like next week will finally be ECOPROJECT week! LOL Last 3 weeks have been Bronco weeks.
 
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Go figure. In order to rent a uhaul tow veh needs inspection. Trailer pickup was in morning. We put over 100 mi no problem. Daughter goes to uhaul. Gets stranded. Engine did not want to shut off. When it did now a no start. I left to rescue. Left main tool bag at home.



Half rounded starter bolt. We had appt for family photo 45 min from now.
 
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Yeah, renting a trailer from U-Haul can be a pita.

Used OEM trailer harness.

Turns out the starter relay stuck ruining starter. All good now.

Still very high idle @ 950-1000.
Thinking prob a vacuum leak. Have to pull upper intake to fix pass side valve cover leak.

Trailer now loaded ready for trip north.

 

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She's going the wrong direction. It was 85 here last Sunday, 69 today, and 49 for a high on Friday.

Hopefully she isn't moving to northern MN. I grew up there, and it's a whole other animal.
 

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I don't know how I've missed this before, but great work! You and my buddy would get along well. He's a Bronco guy along with anything Ford. Here's his '66 that we took 2" out of the top.

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She's going the wrong direction. It was 85 here last Sunday, 69 today, and 49 for a high on Friday.

Finally cooled off here a bit of rain last couple days. The hot weather season is now over the nice weather begins!

Hopefully she isn't moving to northern MN. I grew up there, and it's a whole other animal.

45 min West of Twin Cities

Mn is great its in the mid 50s right now

Bronco looks great!!

Thanks, see below for Bronco update

I don't know how I've missed this before, but great work! You and my buddy would get along well. He's a Bronco guy along with anything Ford. Here's his '66 that we took 2" out of the top.

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Looks great! How did you cut the windshield to fit? What color combo and power source is it getting?
 
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Bronco Update:

Finally at 11 pm last evening we had the last piece completed on the Bronco and it was ready for the long trip up north to MN. This has been a brutal last 3-4 weeks trying to get it ready for the trip.

But it appears the Bronco going north was just not to be. Daughter had quit her job here and last day of work was this past Sunday. Plan was to take those few days left and get it licensed and all little details working for the trip up north.

On Wednesday she picked up the Uhaul only to have a cheap junk Oreilly starter relay stick and then ruin the starter. Bought another thinking it was a fluke. It lasted for about 5 starts and it also stuck. Then looking online and seeing NAPA showed a made in USA unit we purchased it for bigger $$ trying to put on the best one we could find.

What a disappointment when she came home with the unit as it was also the exact same as the other china junk. To me that is just plain wrong where NAPA can say made in USA show a pic of a USA made piece but when out of box it has China all over it.

Yesterday morning she went to the alignment shop just to have it double checked from the home job. Again the relay failed. I got the call and called the ford dealer thinking no way they would be avail any longer. Not only was the starter still avail and also the relay they were less $$ than all the others! Much much better quality too. No more issues since!

Early this morning the Uhaul was all loaded along with back of Bronco and ready to roll at exactly 8:59 AM. I took a video of her pulling out of the driveway. FINALLY, the Bronco was complete and running great. Burning a tank of fuel and getting quite good MPG considering how many short trips and tons of idling etc. She drove to her favorite gas station, filled up and was on her way.

Well, She made it less than 15 miles when the call came in saying it has lost all power and barely goes. Gas from a brand new station open only a few months it crossed my mind bad gas. Saying the power was down was a understatement.

Over an hour later got the call it would barely move and could I come to the rescue.

Only thing I have with a hitch is the '66 Ranger F250. Hooked up the trailer (approx 2 miles from home) and she drove the Ranger while I drove the Bronco to see how bad it was really running. I had no moved 50' when It was obvious it felt like a fuel supply issue.

At start of project we had removed and replaced fuel tank, In Tank Fuel Pump, In Line fuel Pump, Filters, Fuel Pressure Regulator and also the Injectors thinking it should now be bullet proof and go a long way.

Limped it home and got it up on the 4 post hoist. First up was to install a fuel pressure gauge. As soon as we threaded on the pressure gauge the engine stalled and did not want to restart. Cycling the key many times the pressure came up so it would start but when it was dropped into gear pressure dropped under 20 lbs.

Removed filter and it was good so checked pressure at in line pump. Barely a trickle, One could feel and hear the pump working. Then thinking most likely the In tank pump so we pulled the inline pump to test. It was fine. with inline pump off we again cycled the key. Barely a trickle of fuel. The new pump shot in 300 miles.

A total junk Precision brand pump from Oreilly had ruined the entire trip north.

Daughter had a deadline to get to MN for a job and Oreilly did not have another replacement pump.

From Ford the pump was Obsolete and no time to try to find one out of state.

Only choice at this time was to get a Penske rental truck for her to move all her belongings up north. 8 hrs later she is on the road north with the Bronco left behind.

So after all this hard work on her part, all the frustration not to mention the months of time with every spare minute working on it she only got to enjoy it for 300 miles.

At a loss for words right now what I think of the cheap aftermarket parts and the places that sell them. And we bought the most expensive and what we thought was the best aftermarket pump avail at the time.

So now I have a fuel tank with 36 gallons of fuel in it and it needs to come out, it has no drain and it cannot be siphoned as it has a shield in the tube. Will find a way but the frustration is pretty high at the moment.

So yes once the fuel pump is squared away it will be up for grabs. . . .

Moral of the story is: Any and all parts stores at least in Arizona simply have very few good parts or made in USA parts that are worth installing.

I cannot count the number of times I have purchased parts from Oreilly that turn out to be not worth the packaging they come in. Just today when I got the call to come rescue the bronco and Uhaul trailer I stopped by my local oreilly to pick up a trailer ball and hitch for the Ranger as could not find mine quickly. When I got to the bronco and went to install the new ball/hitch I noticed it was USED! its the one with 3 diff size balls on it and never noticed until I went to install. I took a pic of it. It was a 60.00 plus $$ hitch!
 
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Sorry to hear about your troubles with sub-standard parts, it's terrible when you buy what you think is the best available only to find out it's junk.

That said, why not fix it then drive or ship it up to her? Seems like a real shame to put in all that work just to turn around and sell it.
 

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Looks great! How did you cut the windshield to fit? What color combo and power source is it getting?

Taped up and sand blasted. This was the trial windshield, since it was cracked already. He's got another one or two to get the final product. 302/ZF5. I'm not sure what color it will be, I think he was talking about a dark blue similar to the wheels.

It was surprising how easy that top lined up. Basically a strip down the center front to back to fill and the rest was just trim and weld. Although we were working with two tops.
 
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That really ***** that you'd find that many new parts failing. I can understand 1 in a batch of thousands. That's forgivable. But what you went through is a damn shame. :sad:

And if I were you, I'd take a picture of the NAPA box and the part showing the discrepancy of where it was made and send it to your local news channel. They love stories like that.

It just makes me wonder how much trouble I'm going to have when I finally get into the car hobby in earnest as I get closer to retirement. Maybe the only answer is to just make new (i.e. modern) stuff fit into the old cars and forget about true restoration.
 

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TimeWarp . . . all these troubles with the Bronco definitely . . .
. . . . . . testing your patience !!! ;)

You and daughter need to think of Jobe and keep moving forward.

Could be hidden sign that Bronco needs to stay in safe location in AZ rather than exposed to elements in MN ?? :dunno: Does the daughter have garage to put that restored Bronco in ??
 

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Yeah, Minnesota road salt would work that nice bronco over in short order.......

Maybe this coming summer you can take a road trip up there and then catch a flight home.....? In the mean time, work all the bugs out and enjoy driving it.
 
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Sorry to hear about your troubles with sub-standard parts, it's terrible when you buy what you think is the best available only to find out it's junk.

That said, why not fix it then drive or ship it up to her? Seems like a real shame to put in all that work just to turn around and sell it.

That really ***** that you'd find that many new parts failing. I can understand 1 in a batch of thousands. That's forgivable. But what you went through is a damn shame. :sad:

And if I were you, I'd take a picture of the NAPA box and the part showing the discrepancy of where it was made and send it to your local news channel. They love stories like that.

It just makes me wonder how much trouble I'm going to have when I finally get into the car hobby in earnest as I get closer to retirement. Maybe the only answer is to just make new (i.e. modern) stuff fit into the old cars and forget about true restoration.

TimeWarp . . . all these troubles with the Bronco definitely . . .
. . . . . . testing your patience !!! ;)

You and daughter need to think of Jobe and keep moving forward.

Could be hidden sign that Bronco needs to stay in safe location in AZ rather than exposed to elements in MN ?? :dunno: Does the daughter have garage to put that restored Bronco in ??

My $1500 offer still stands.... :lol_hitti

Yeah, Minnesota road salt would work that nice bronco over in short order.......

Maybe this coming summer you can take a road trip up there and then catch a flight home.....? In the mean time, work all the bugs out and enjoy driving it.

Not a bad price for a parts Bronco!

^^^This. Unless she has a beater to drive in the winter.

:NAPA Starter Relay.

Online it clearly says made in USA. When a vehicle is stranded and you drive across town to find what you think is the best one avail a made in USA part like NAPA says online. Only to get home and see CHINA all over it for a very high price.

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A link to the page showing the ECH ST404 Echlin branded part being USA

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I think this is flat out crooked not just shady on part of NAPA. Especially a comment from person behind counter if it goes bad or sticks its the Installer who installed it not the part.
 
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Sorry to hear about your troubles with sub-standard parts, it's terrible when you buy what you think is the best available only to find out it's junk.

That said, why not fix it then drive or ship it up to her? Seems like a real shame to put in all that work just to turn around and sell it.

All that work will be hard to give to someone else. She planned on using it until the weather turned south then getting a cheap car for winter use.

Because the Bronco did not make it she will be forced to buy that cheap car now. But because of the cheap **** parts, and having to rent the truck to move the cash will be short.

I spent all day today trying to figure out how to rectify the issues.

She will be able to borrow a car for a few days anyway. Even for a cheap daily driver my idea would be to buy one from Phoenix where it will hold out a few years anyway before the fenders start to flap.


It would be a few weeks before bronco would be back on road and I or someone else would be able to drive it there.

TimeWarp . . . all these troubles with the Bronco definitely . . .
. . . . . . testing your patience !!! ;)

You and daughter need to think of Jobe and keep moving forward.

Could be hidden sign that Bronco needs to stay in safe location in AZ rather than exposed to elements in MN ?? :dunno: Does the daughter have garage to put that restored Bronco in ??

I am with you on the not so hidden sign the Bronco was just not meant to go there.

My $1500 offer still stands.... :lol_hitti

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti Working on that offer, but since it included shipping I am trying to come up with the extra 200 $$ to ship as the shipping quote is 1700.00!

Yeah, Minnesota road salt would work that nice bronco over in short order.......

Maybe this coming summer you can take a road trip up there and then catch a flight home.....? In the mean time, work all the bugs out and enjoy driving it.

That is a possible to drive it there in spring but I simply do not have a place to store indoors until then, in the last few weeks she spent a ton of $$ that she would like to re-coup. Will see where this goes over next week or so as waiting on the Ford OEM fuel pump. Its scheduled for before next monday.

A little more detailing I would like to do on it also. We had it at 98% it will give me time for a bit more tweaking. Will see how it does with the new pump.

^^^This. Unless she has a beater to drive in the winter.
 

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I used to be that young kid wondering the old duffer was buying an alternator at the Ford dealer for $131, when 'anyone knows he could have gotten one at a parts store for $30'. Now, I'm pretty much that 'old guy'.

IMO (and experience) NAPA's reman starters have been junk for years (went through 5 in 2.5 years on one truck), and to quote a Pep Boys manager 'I wouldn't anything that A-1 Cardone sells'..... A lot of reman stuff is really sketchy.
 

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There's an old school auto electric shop around here that I use. Haven't bought a reman alternator or starter in over 22 years, as long as I've lived here. Get a quality rebuild on any just about any automotive starter or alternator, with a 12 month warranty for usually less than about 50 bucks, in about an hour, if necessary. And NEVER need to use the warranty... can't beat it.
 

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I wonder how many boxes can fit in that Bronco....
Always loved that style. My work truck is currently a 2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition with 62k miles...... Business expense!?!?!? Lol

Looks great. If the parts being **** isn't bad enough, the people at the chain part stores don't know anything. I was told at autozone they didn't sell o rings..... What's frustrated me was I know they do, but the counter jockey insisted they didn't.
 

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I wonder how many boxes can fit in that Bronco....
Always loved that style. My work truck is currently a 2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition with 62k miles...... Business expense!?!?!? Lol

Looks great. If the parts being **** isn't bad enough, the people at the chain part stores don't know anything. I was told at autozone they didn't sell o rings..... What's frustrated me was I know they do, but the counter jockey insisted they didn't.

Its funny you say that, I used to work at an O'reilly. It started off great, my sales were highest because I was honest and helped customers get the right part(s). My customer base was growing rapidly, I was asked for by commercial customers. Well once the regional manager found out I went to tech school and I was helping people with my knowledge. I went from 37 hours to 20. Then after he would visit all the other employees would be very distant. All the promises made to me for promotions went out the window. Essentially, knowledge is a dangerous liability. Kind of an oxymoron if you ask me. Wouldn't you rather get good information out to your customers from people who know what they are talking about? VS. Some kid who doesn't know what the difference is between PCV valve and PVC pipe is??? Any rate, they prefer people with less than stellar knowledge of vehicles. What's funny, is now I'm making more than what I would have been there as a store manager lol.
 

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by the way, My name is Tyler, Timewarp, I've been fallowing this build as a lurker for a couple years, incredible work, I still want to figure out the magic soap blend lol.
 

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Well once the regional manager found out I went to tech school and I was helping people with my knowledge. I went from 37 hours to 20. Then after he would visit all the other employees would be very distant. All the promises made to me for promotions went out the window. Any rate, they prefer people with less than stellar knowledge of vehicles.

Any idea why this was happening? Just seems odd.
 

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Some people are scared of competence, because they have none. It threatens them.

EXACTLY, the manager hated me, mangers and "key holders" are supposed to take care of commercial customers. Yet I was asked for by name by the commercial accounts. When I worked at a Sams club years ago, I was number one in sales and customer feedback, employee of the month. I'm a decent sales person, but after my experience at O'Reilly's, I just didn't want to do it anymore. I had a very simple philosophy, I want my customers coming back because of a good experience and trust, not to do a return.
 

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Hey TW, I know you had mentioned wanting to be finished by SEMA, I'm not sure where you stand, as far as work since your last posting, but I know you've done more to this truck than most likely any single person has done to any of those at SEMA.

With that being said, I hope you're doing well Health wise, and that your daughter had a safe trip.
 

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Hey, if you need to come up with some extra money, I would greatly send you a few bucks for the recipe to the Magic Soap! Looks like it works great and would be well worth it.
 
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Uploading some pics now.

The last going on 6 weeks have been spent on bronco only. Have not touched the eco.
A couple hours spent on locating parts for scooter but 99% Bronco.


Just today can finally consider Bronco about wrapped up. Just got back from the first local show and test drive.

Once I found FORD parts vs the Aftermarket JUNK each and every problem/symptom has gone away. Runs better than ever with ZERO Issues.

I had checked for Ford parts at time of replacement but no luck. Probably searched harder now or just got lucky I was able to find them.

Turns out the Oreilly in tank lift fuel pump was bad from the get-go simply would not supply enough to the high pressure pump to keep it going under load at first, then in the end quit completely.

The Oreilly Master Cylinder that was replaced just a couple months ago went bad in the first 300 miles. Found a new one of those also. Turns out same part number as the mid 70's Ford Trucks.

After a longer drive this evening I do not think it would be a problem to drive across country, it ran that well. Just need to do a final front alignment steering a bit "touchy".

40 MPH per 1000 rpm too! Quiet and smooth, rides nice. Everything works except for front dome light, its missing.
 
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Its funny you say that, I used to work at an O'reilly. It started off great, my sales were highest because I was honest and helped customers get the right part(s). My customer base was growing rapidly, I was asked for by commercial customers. Well once the regional manager found out I went to tech school and I was helping people with my knowledge. I went from 37 hours to 20. Then after he would visit all the other employees would be very distant. All the promises made to me for promotions went out the window. Essentially, knowledge is a dangerous liability. Kind of an oxymoron if you ask me. Wouldn't you rather get good information out to your customers from people who know what they are talking about? VS. Some kid who doesn't know what the difference is between PCV valve and PVC pipe is??? Any rate, they prefer people with less than stellar knowledge of vehicles. What's funny, is now I'm making more than what I would have been there as a store manager lol.

Magic Soap! Magic Soap!

I wonder how many boxes can fit in that Bronco....
Always loved that style. My work truck is currently a 2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition with 62k miles...... Business expense!?!?!? Lol

Looks great. If the parts being **** isn't bad enough, the people at the chain part stores don't know anything. I was told at autozone they didn't sell o rings..... What's frustrated me was I know they do, but the counter jockey insisted they didn't.

Fold that back seat forward and you will be able to fit more back there than a pickup . . .
 
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Its funny you say that, I used to work at an O'reilly. It started off great, my sales were highest because I was honest and helped customers get the right part(s). My customer base was growing rapidly, I was asked for by commercial customers. Well once the regional manager found out I went to tech school and I was helping people with my knowledge. I went from 37 hours to 20. Then after he would visit all the other employees would be very distant. All the promises made to me for promotions went out the window. Essentially, knowledge is a dangerous liability. Kind of an oxymoron if you ask me. Wouldn't you rather get good information out to your customers from people who know what they are talking about? VS. Some kid who doesn't know what the difference is between PCV valve and PVC pipe is??? Any rate, they prefer people with less than stellar knowledge of vehicles. What's funny, is now I'm making more than what I would have been there as a store manager lol.

Sounds about right. Turn over at my local store is unreal. All the best people are leaving, I found out other businesses that do business with them offer the best people jobs, they leave for greener pastures.
 
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by the way, My name is Tyler, Timewarp, I've been fallowing this build as a lurker for a couple years, incredible work, I still want to figure out the magic soap blend lol.


Magic Soap! Magic Soap!

Hey, if you need to come up with some extra money, I would greatly send you a few bucks for the recipe to the Magic Soap! Looks like it works great and would be well worth it.

I have tried my best multiple times to explain the "Magic Soap", I have posted pics of products used that are mixed together. 4 different soaps/cleaners are mixed different depending on what I am trying to clean. I have been doing it the same mixes for over 25yrs now.

Problem is only one part of it can be shipped UPS, FedEx. It would have to be shipped truck freight. I have not had the time and not so sure I want to get involved in sending it when its only "truck ship".

I have about enough to get me through the next project or so. I have given away too many samples! LOL

To explain this in detail it would have to go to a email, Kinda got the "hint" last time to ssshhhhh about it. (manufacturer). I will leave what pics and info already posted but will keep details to private email or PM. I do not want to post the reasons for that here.
 

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Sounds about right. Turn over at my local store is unreal. All the best people are leaving, I found out other businesses that do business with them offer the best people jobs, they leave for greener pastures.

First off Great project. I love the eccoboost (the only furd I can say this of)
I own an outo repair and service shop and I stay FAR away as I can from Az Orielly carquest napa and all the other China parts sellers as I can. good parts are Factory parts or made for factory without factory name, I buy all my **** from Worldpac and its wholesale only. Hell I wont even use Gates belts as the non oe fail way to early. I know I keep a wall of them as proof to my customers. I only sell Mitsuboshi or Bando belts.

After a few pages I tend to loose interest in reading over 100 pages. sorry short attention span =(
Did find however the startup vid and lots of work done. Awsome to see

As of now Im doing a similar project of a 71 C10 with a twin turbo LB7 duramax with a C30 frame and made it a 4X4.
I did my own first as a 72 blazer w the said twinned dmax. I used the factory wiring and switches to operate 78 van window motors and locks. I used the factory abs and put tone rings in a dana 60 front. the Air con I used a vintage air unit that worked awesome and melded nicely with my factory ac then left firewall flushed. I did put in the onstar only to find it went digital and was useless. I kept the factory dash and steering colum and used aftermarket guages with senders drilled and tapped into engine. We Chevy guys have the advantage of EFI live to remove the security systems and tune for 2x Hp and Tq. (You can tune for 500+hp as well) I did not however bother with air bags as I did not want the new interior to fugly up my vintage truck. I since took the truck apart and built a HUGE 2000 Yukon Xl w solid axle and this dmax, After bending the frame in the back moving huge trailer full of rock around my back yard in 4lo I pulled it apart again and got a hold of a 71 C10 that I mentioned. Wiring Im very good at so I just used alldata and did my own thing.
Next one is a 2007 suburban 2500 in black will get a twin turbo LMM pushing 1100 hp. Ive got all the parts and truck just need other projects done first :bounce:
Hope to inspire you that you can do eeeeeeet with my story's of it being done with the enemy truck :bowdown:
 
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