Load Pro Patent
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theoldwizard1
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Sad !
Reminds me of the guy who invented the intermittent windshield wipers, Robert Kearns (lived around the block from him in Detroit; played with his kids; saw his prototype installed in his early 60s Galaxie.)
LoadPRO is a superior testing methodology compared to POWERprobe. They just have better marketers and more lawyers.
Reminds me of the guy who invented the intermittent windshield wipers, Robert Kearns (lived around the block from him in Detroit; played with his kids; saw his prototype installed in his early 60s Galaxie.)
LoadPRO is a superior testing methodology compared to POWERprobe. They just have better marketers and more lawyers.
GTA Matt
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Not sure why Dan was always complaining about the other tools. His product is great and he should just let that speak for itself. Constantly putting down other tool companies really turned me off from watching any of his videos. The load pro and power probe are totally different tools and should never be compared to each other. I'm not sure what his latest angle is here....
dnschmidt
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Dan is justifiably bitter. The problem is bitter never wins. To me he's the best. Perhaps he realized that it was time to bury the hatchet and move on.
Zeke
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I remember when this concept passed though the GJ forum quite awhile back. It was very complicated and for me just about impossible to understand. But, I'm not an electrical trouble shooter even though I have tried and succeeded a few times.
Seems to me that his system could save a lot of time. IIRC, he was able to isolate the problem rather quickly (with a lot of knowledge and practice, I'm sure).
Many people have created new tools. I'm reminded of the chap that invented the WorkMate. He too faced a real uphill battle but he succeeded. Most do not. It's not a quest for an amateur. There was a case about a wrench for a Harley Davidson motor that a mechanic invented. Harley sued him and the thing drug out for years. He won. How many wrenches did he sell, will sell, and is it worth it?
I have invented and failed. I spent $40,000 on something so I know what I'm talking about. Do yourself a favor and ALWAYS try to get someone to make and market your idea for you for an advance on royalties. That may be all you'll ever see but you could also see a lifetime of royalties. I know one fellow that has 200, yes 200! products that he has collected royalties on and many are still paying. The more faddish ones died. All in all he has helped another 200 products to market. That's 400 and still counting.
This is not a commercial. If you're interested, you can learn how.
Seems to me that his system could save a lot of time. IIRC, he was able to isolate the problem rather quickly (with a lot of knowledge and practice, I'm sure).
Many people have created new tools. I'm reminded of the chap that invented the WorkMate. He too faced a real uphill battle but he succeeded. Most do not. It's not a quest for an amateur. There was a case about a wrench for a Harley Davidson motor that a mechanic invented. Harley sued him and the thing drug out for years. He won. How many wrenches did he sell, will sell, and is it worth it?
I have invented and failed. I spent $40,000 on something so I know what I'm talking about. Do yourself a favor and ALWAYS try to get someone to make and market your idea for you for an advance on royalties. That may be all you'll ever see but you could also see a lifetime of royalties. I know one fellow that has 200, yes 200! products that he has collected royalties on and many are still paying. The more faddish ones died. All in all he has helped another 200 products to market. That's 400 and still counting.
This is not a commercial. If you're interested, you can learn how.
Steinmetz
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U.S. Patent No. 6356853 claimed priority back to 1999. His twenty-year term only had a few years left. If it hasn't been profitable for him for the last seventeen years, exactly what is he giving up?
BTW, the record (PAIR) shows no "giving up claims" as he says. It shows, instead, that the patent is still valid and enforceable (provided he paid the last maintenance fee, which I didn't check).
He also claims that he's been sued for libel and on unfair competition grounds. None of this will help him if those grounds are valid and acted upon.
I sense only that a lot of Dan's self-pity is now on display...
BTW, the record (PAIR) shows no "giving up claims" as he says. It shows, instead, that the patent is still valid and enforceable (provided he paid the last maintenance fee, which I didn't check).
He also claims that he's been sued for libel and on unfair competition grounds. None of this will help him if those grounds are valid and acted upon.
I sense only that a lot of Dan's self-pity is now on display...
Steinmetz
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"...It's not a quest for an amateur…".
I couldn't be more in agreement.
I couldn't be more in agreement.
He has become increasingly bitter and I am not sure he is learning. His latest video mentions how rival companies are suing him because of his attacks on them, yet he still cannot resist having a few more swings at them.
Does the guy not have a family and/or friends to council him as this relentless bitterness cannot be doing anything for his health?
Does the guy not have a family and/or friends to council him as this relentless bitterness cannot be doing anything for his health?
Steinmetz
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My recollection is that he publicly charged that others were infringing his patent. Always the position of a complete fool. The alleged infringers could have compelled him to prove it in court.
Steinmetz
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In continuing to publish these childish youtube rants, Dan only continues to prove that he's fundamentally confused about the difference between the court of public opinion and a court of law.
Steinmetz
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Kearns actually invented something. In Sullivan's case, I'm not so sure.
theoldwizard1
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Point well taken. He (Kearns) collected from most of the American car companies after many, many years, but not all of the foreign companies.
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Steinmetz
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I don't know if Kearns had any foreign patents. But when the foreign autos are imported into the U.S., with the potentially-infringing wiper system installed, there were things he could have done.
BTW, one of the many vehicles I own is a pristine early '60's Galaxie.
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abvw
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I'm surprised that it took PowerProbe this long to sue his ***. Although he is right, in a sense, that the PowerProbe is more of a "component tester" than a "circuit tester".
Every other person on this planet has the right to call the PowerProbe a *************, but not him (due to his affiliation with LOADpro) . This is what happens when you cheap out on hiring lawyers and marketing companies to push your products for you.
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About a year ago, I bought both a LoadPro and Power Probe and went online looking at Dan's videos for instructions on use and in about the 5 or 6 I seen, in every one he played some martyr **** with the sourpuss face look of his. While I got the info I needed, he was not very professional in marketing his tool and let it and the market determine it's usefulness.
theoldwizard1
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Out of curiosity, does any one know how much resistance the LoadPRO puts on the test circuit ? SWAG is between 10-100Ωs.
bushmechanic
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This is no more than someone whining and having a hissy fit on YouTube.
There are ways to gain exposure and compete in an industry with plenty of room, and then there are ways to make yourself look like a foolish brat.
Now, in the last throws of his tantrum, he doesn't even sell the rights. He tosses them on the ground like a toy in contention and storms off telling everyone to build their own.
If he truly wanted to help anyone but himself, he'd have sold the rights to a business that was capable of developing, integrating, and marketing the technology on a larger scale; encouragement through exclusivity.
I'm surprised nobody stepped on him and financially twisted their boot, given his caustic manner of product exposure.
There are ways to gain exposure and compete in an industry with plenty of room, and then there are ways to make yourself look like a foolish brat.
Now, in the last throws of his tantrum, he doesn't even sell the rights. He tosses them on the ground like a toy in contention and storms off telling everyone to build their own.
If he truly wanted to help anyone but himself, he'd have sold the rights to a business that was capable of developing, integrating, and marketing the technology on a larger scale; encouragement through exclusivity.
I'm surprised nobody stepped on him and financially twisted their boot, given his caustic manner of product exposure.
He is or was partnered with a company called 'Electronic Specialties" that did bring his idea to market. The problem is that Dan promoted it like he was selling **** flavored toothpaste.
I would not be surprised if ES came down on him hard to knock his sniveling off.
Steinmetz
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I still don't know what he means by "giving up" his patent. His maintenance fee appears to be paid up. There is no mechanism for "giving up" a patent. They are presumed valid when issued, and remain enforceable as long as the fees are paid.
It may be taken away only if the patent is invalidated through judicial action, or through a reexamination within the Patent Office. There is no evidence that any of this occurred.
I think what Dan intends to say is that he's no longer interested in asserting his patent against others. But since there's only a few years left on his term, there isn't much left to license, even if he could pull himself together (which he apparently cannot).
When his term ends, the patent is dedicated to the public. Might as well just wait a few years, then anyone can make, use or sell it.
It may be taken away only if the patent is invalidated through judicial action, or through a reexamination within the Patent Office. There is no evidence that any of this occurred.
I think what Dan intends to say is that he's no longer interested in asserting his patent against others. But since there's only a few years left on his term, there isn't much left to license, even if he could pull himself together (which he apparently cannot).
When his term ends, the patent is dedicated to the public. Might as well just wait a few years, then anyone can make, use or sell it.
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I've half a mind to offer to buy it, or attempt to seize the rights myself using that video as evidence of his disinclination to maintain the patent.
How much do you think Power Probe would pay for those rights?
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How much do you think Power Probe would pay for those rights?
At this point, nothing. It is a 2-3 years from expiring and going into the public domain.
Steinmetz
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I've half a mind to offer to buy it, or attempt to seize the rights myself using that video as evidence of his disinclination to maintain the patent.
How much do you think Power Probe would pay for those rights?
In a few years, it will be free. Start working on a knock-off now. In a few years, you may have a product you want to market.
Change the name, though. Dan has already poisoned that.