Clausing Drill Press

[TheEquineFencer]

I've been reading how to fix it, you do not have to pull the need off. I've just not motivated enough to do it. It's only taken 10+ years for me to get around to fixing theDP I bought when I got the lathe and mill. I did getmotivated to fix the ENCO lathe I just bought. I think it's about a 12 inch1994 year model geared. It's a 110 2033 I think, it fell over with the guy I got it from and broke the cross feed knob and shaft and just abot all the levers off the front. The two adjusting levers for the gearing is broken. I'm about 80% there getting things apart and about 75% there figuring out how to repair what's broke with "junk" laying around the shop.

 

[TheEquineFencer]

3 hp for a SB is pretty big...You add that or is it an 18"...? I don't really have a BP...I bought an ACRA 10x52...It's made in Tiawan , but I like it better...I have to stand on a step stool to reach the draw-bar and I'm 5'10" haha It's that big...Heck, 52" table you can't reach both ends...Sony read-out...3 hp...It was $10,500 new in 1995...I got it in mint condition in '98 for $5,500...I use it about once a month...lol

Mine is 3ph, not 3HP.

 

[TheEquineFencer]

I have a Bridgeport for real! The guy that put me onto it thought the guy was selling a small lathe and mill, like 15 x 5 lathe, turns out it's a 15 inch swing, 5ft bed. I was just looking a lathe and ending p taking everything the guy had home for the most part, rotary convertor and all. He's been kicking himself in the **** everytime he sees me, the one that put me onto them. He liked to have crapped when he saw the lathe, then he saw the mill and asked where I got it, then he noticed the DRO and dropped his jaw. He collects old lathes. He owns a machine shop. He has a nice pedal powered lathe on display there. He starting to teach blacksmithing too.

 

[TheEquineFencer]

You know the kind like Harbor Freight sells.

 

[TheEquineFencer]

Well I'm back home.I went up north to plow snow and lost my ****, long story, I'd rather forget. The new belt came in while I was away. I got home and installed it thinking this would be simple. It's anything but. The belt will not stay on. It rolls off just as soon as I turn the DP on. Here a link to a picture of it sitting still. When you turn it on, the belt rolls off and goes sideways into the pulley groove. I've cleaned the pulleys pretty well. I'm at a loss for what to do next, any suggestions?
http://s642.photobucket.com/albums/uu145/TheEquineFencer/

 

[RAYJAY]

Well I'm back home.I went up north to plow snow and lost my ****, long story, I'd rather forget. The new belt came in while I was away. I got home and installed it thinking this would be simple. It's anything but. The belt will not stay on. It rolls off just as soon as I turn the DP on. Here a link to a picture of it sitting still. When you turn it on, the belt rolls off and goes sideways into the pulley groove. I've cleaned the pulleys pretty well. I'm at a loss for what to do next, any suggestions?
http://s642.photobucket.com/albums/uu145/TheEquineFencer/

full belt install is on page 4 of the manual should help

http://www.speedfreaksgarage.com/jeff/drill press/15in Vari Speed.pdf

Jeff

 

[TheEquineFencer]

I did all that, when you start it he belt comes off. I tried adjusting adjustment both ways, the belt still flys off.

 

[TheEquineFencer]

I just pulled the top 1/2 the motor VS pulley off, the key way is FUBAR. It's the one with a hole for the roll pin. I cannot get the bottom 1/2 the pulley off. I had my three jaw large puller on it and managed to take a chunk out of the pulley. I'm loosing interest in this DP in a hurry. I looked at the picks the other guy posted of his running. It looks like the back motor pulley is setting too low on the motor.

 

[Outlawmws]

The motor looks like its sitting too low, and you should make sire the spring loaded part son the motor work freely. Then set it so it's at about 1/2 speed so the belt can't climb out right off the bat.

 

[TheEquineFencer]

In our effort to get the pulley assembly moved on the motor, it looks like one of the wires has come off the starter inside. We got the pulley assembly off the shaft and now have taken the motor apart to clean it up. The bottom bearing was a little rough, so we lubed it and it turns free now. In the next day or two I'll get the wire soldered back on. We blew a ton of **** out of the motor. I'm thinking the main reason the motor started acting stuipid was the **** that broke loose when we were beating on it to get the pulley off. When I get the motor back right I'll be able to adjust the height of the rear pulley assembly on the motor shaft. It moves freely now. Next week I'll get a new key made for the upper pulley assembly. I think right now for that problem I'm just going to cut a longer key and drill the hole for the roll pin that's in the Lower pulley assembly. The side is eat out of theshaft where the key rides in it. The only other option besides replacing the part is to cut another keyway on the other side and drillit for the roll pin. Here's the mess I have now.
http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu145/TheEquineFencer/DSCN6463_zps98b1afcc.jpg
I e-mailed Clausing to see how much the lower pulley assembly is. I'm sure it's not cheap.

 

[mx_599]

Can someone please tell me if this is a good drill press. It has a large table as you can see below.

Clausing Drill Press
20" variable speed
model 2287
serial # 525854
150-2000 rpm
1.5 HP, 3 phs
#2 morse taper
65" column
36" max ht table to spindle
31 x 84 " table

How about this one?

Walker Turner Drill Press/ Power Feed
20' pulley type
serial # 271144
1 hp
3 phase
#2 morse and #1 morse speed reducer
36" column

thank you

 

[Outlawmws]

Based on description alone, those are great DP's, however, both are 3 phase...

The average Joe does not have 3 phase power, so you are looking at some sort of phase converter, (rotory or VFD) or a Motor swap...

Specs don't tell the whole story however. condition is everything. some things are easy fixes, some are more difficult/expensive.

ps: a couple of the "specs" appear to be nonsense:

31 x 84 " table

#2 morse and #1 morse speed reducer
36" column

 

[mx_599]

Based on description alone, those are great DP's, however, both are 3 phase...

The average Joe does not have 3 phase power, so you are looking at some sort of phase converter, (rotory or VFD) or a Motor swap...

Specs don't tell the whole story however. condition is everything. some things are easy fixes, some are more difficult/expensive.

ps: a couple of the "specs" appear to be nonsense:

31 x 84 " table

#2 morse and #1 morse speed reducer
36" column

Thank you very much for the response...

So if they look to be in good shape than they should be good ones?

Also, I think it is a legitimate large table that is stock with this one. You have concern over the morse reducers and column length?

Anyone with an idea of the fair market price of the above items if in good condition? Can you still find parts for these?

Lastly, I was aware of the 3 phase as well, but thanks for that

 

[Alexbn921]

Great work on the restore. Looks like a monster DP that will serve you for years.

 

[Outlawmws]

Thank you very much for the response...

So if they look to be in good shape than they should be good ones?

Also, I think it is a legitimate large table that is stock with this one. You have concern over the morse reducers and column length?

Anyone with an idea of the fair market price of the above items if in good condition? Can you still find parts for these?

Lastly, I was aware of the 3 phase as well, but thanks for that

36" (high?) column would be a very short bench top dp... Particularly for this large a DP. these things will or should weigh in 300-500 lbs, maybe a lot more with a table that size. ordinary homeowner/light shop DP's barely top 100 or so

I don't know what they mean by "#2 morse and #1 morse speed reducer" is it an accessory?

It's exrtremly hard to decipher some people sales chicken scratchings out of context, with no pics.

 

[WhoWhatNow]

36" (high?) column would be a very short bench top dp... Particularly for this large a DP. these things will or should weigh in 300-500 lbs, maybe a lot more with a table that size. ordinary homeowner/light shop DP's barely top 100 or so

I don't know what they mean by "#2 morse and #1 morse speed reducer" is it an accessory?

It's exrtremly hard to decipher some people sales chicken scratchings out of context, with no pics.

First think I thought of when I saw the table size was a multi-spindle production drill press. i would guess the table would be about 36" high on one of those.

 

[mx_599]

First think I thought of when I saw the table size was a multi-spindle production drill press. i would guess the table would be about 36" high on one of those.

That kind of looks like what I am talking about. It has one centered head. The table looks the same

 

[Outlawmws]

Can someone please tell me if this is a good drill press. It has a large table as you can see below.

Clausing Drill Press
20" variable speed
model 2287
serial # 525854
150-2000 rpm
1.5 HP, 3 phs
#2 morse taper
65" column
36" max ht table to spindle
31 x 84 " table

How about this one?

Walker Turner Drill Press/ Power Feed
20' pulley type
serial # 271144
1 hp
3 phase
#2 morse and #1 morse speed reducer
36" column

thank you

Except the one with the (presumably) production table has a 65" column, and the 36" column doesn't say.

Pics are worth 1000 words....

 

[Farmall450]

First think I thought of when I saw the table size was a multi-spindle production drill press. i would guess the table would be about 36" high on one of those.

My thought's exactly, we've got one at school, handy as hell you just leave each press at a different height for said operation.

 

[sandmanxx]

Old thread / new build +-)

How the heck did you get the head off the pole?? I am having a stuff time. Some B Blaster / and decided a little heat / more bead blaster / mallet and wood block to bang the head back and forth.. No go??

 

[Outlawmws]

is it rotating? Or locked? Get it turning first and look for set screws - sometimes they use setscrews under setscrews...

 

[sandmanxx]

Its a 15" floor single head - metal speed. I can't see/find any set screws in that part of the column/head. Only the donut brace under the table has them..

Unless they painted over one - but I think I am cleaver enough to note that find~ I started to think there may be one inside the head and access from the front with a long long driver.. But don't see anything inside either.

I think she needs an weak friendly ( smile ) acid poured down the stem of column / head area that has become one.. It press is not totally rusted / etc. It's just OLD! But yes the column is rusted ~~~

I can't get it to rotate.. Using a block of wood and 3 - 4 lb small sledge hammer to bang on it from all sides..

 

[Outlawmws]

If no set screws, look for a cross bolt and lever or wing nut, and a wedge lock for keeping it in place. It has to have something to keep the heads from spinning on the post...

Pics of both sides?

 

[RAYJAY]

If no set screws, look for a cross bolt and lever or wing nut, and a wedge lock for keeping it in place. It has to have something to keep the heads from spinning on the post...

Pics of both sides?

shoot me a pm of your e-mail can send you a pdf of the drill press, do you have the vari speed or change speeds with belt ?

 

[Outlawmws]

shoot me a pm of your e-mail can send you a pdf of the drill press, do you have the vari speed or change speeds with belt ?

Thanks for reminding me Ray; I have access to the operation instructions and parts manuals!

Sandman, on the left side of the head, in alignment with the front edge of the column tub, should be a locking lever, This tightens two wedges against the column tube. that is what you have to loosen to get the head moving. (Make sure the collar below is tight, or it could drop suddenly)

The manual for what I'm assuming is your DP can be accessed here:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/clausing_lathe_and_mill/files

You may need to join the Yahoo group to access it.

 

[sandmanxx]

Thx it's basically the drill press in this thread. I have taken the bolt out..

Guess I post a few pix in a hour

 

[sandmanxx]

see attached

 

[Outlawmws]

OK, the bolt and lever are out; the wedges are still in. See the concentric ring on the bolt hole both sides? that's the wedge slug. Get a narrow drift and catch the edge from the opposite side, and a tap on it will probably knock them out.

 

[Outlawmws]

ps: get the ring back under the head and locked, or it will likely drop like a stone...

 

[sandmanxx]

No ****.. I actually was thinking last night and hitting the sleeve but then said well it doesn't go all the way thou it so it "isn't" what I "think/thought" was the issue..

Thx a million and I well take a look later and report back.. 8:00 pm Central ST

 

[sandmanxx]

thanks and thanks again !!!

 

[RAYJAY]

ps: get the ring back under the head and locked, or it will likely drop like a stone...

been there done that a couple of times ...

 

[sandmanxx]

To the OP that restored / or anyone else

Did you happen to get the bearing numbers??