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New Garage - Advice and Input Welcomed

jferrante

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Hey everyone; relatively new to the boards here but finally got some pictures of my new garage and wanted some input on a few things.

Pardon the picture blurriness - I was rushing and didn't notice till I uploaded them.

Specs:
The Garage is 24' x 24' with 8 foot ceilings and storage "attic" above. The previous owner used it as a pool house but I have different plans for it :).
Originally it had 2 sets of french doors; the owner added a garage door once he listed it for sale -lucky me. I plan on adding a second garage door on sooner than later.

First concern is the flooring - it is ceramic tiles over reinforced concrete - it is very slippery especially when wet - I am curious of the slickness with jack stands etc? I plan on adding a MaxJax at some point in the near future but until then will be doing jack stands.

Second; please chime in on layout to make this garage even better - I plan on buying a welder and beginning to learn that as well, I also enjoy wood working...I am looking at workbenches but figured I would ask the group since I already have a lot of counter-space in the area.

Besides that thanks for all the great stuff on here I plan on being fairly active as I can.

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Wow, very nice. If you're going to be welding you'll need some ventilation of some sort. Maybe a wall fan and crack a door to let in fresh air and get the fumes out.
 

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That looks great! I agree about getting the 2nd garage door and doing something about the slick floor. Well, unless you only need the one parking spot and then you could setup the shop side by the French doors and be all set. I would leave the long counter and cabinets by the sliding door. Tons of storage! Rearrange the other cabinets to build a long bench under the windows so you can look outside and have sunlight. Shelves down the wall you took the cabinets off of.

Wish I had that space to try and decide how I wanted to lay it out!
 
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jferrante

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Wow, very nice. If you're going to be welding you'll need some ventilation of some sort. Maybe a wall fan and crack a door to let in fresh air and get the fumes out.
Thanks and great point - all windows open and the doors - if that is sufficient maybe just need a fan

That looks great! I agree about getting the 2nd garage door and doing something about the slick floor. Well, unless you only need the one parking spot and then you could setup the shop side by the French doors and be all set. I would leave the long counter and cabinets by the sliding door. Tons of storage! Rearrange the other cabinets to build a long bench under the windows so you can look outside and have sunlight. Shelves down the wall you took the cabinets off of.

Wish I had that space to try and decide how I wanted to lay it out!

I do need the second spot I have 2 cars myself and will most likely be adding a 3rd soon - rearranging of the cabinets is an idea but seems to be a lot of work..

I would put some tire storage on the wall and get them off the floor.
Next on the list

Gracias

is there a fire place in your garage?
Yes sir
 

FordTruckWench

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First concern is the flooring - it is ceramic tiles over reinforced concrete - it is very slippery especially when wet - I am curious of the slickness with jack stands etc?

Using jack stands, slickness will be a secondary concern: The tiles are quite likely to break once you put a large point load on them.

If you are seriously going to use this as a garage, plan on taking up all the tiles.
 

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Using jack stands, slickness will be a secondary concern: The tiles are quite likely to break once you put a large point load on them.

If you are seriously going to use this as a garage, plan on taking up all the tiles.

You could probably get by with a square of plywood under the stands like you'd do on an asphalt driveway maybe? I'm just guessing but there might be a way to distribute it such that you won't break the tiles.
 
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jferrante

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Using jack stands, slickness will be a secondary concern: The tiles are quite likely to break once you put a large point load on them.

If you are seriously going to use this as a garage, plan on taking up all the tiles.

Interesting - I found a few threads on here of guys using tiles in the garages with jacks and jack stands - I will be getting a maxjax asap so maybe I will be ok since the tile looks nice.

You could probably get by with a square of plywood under the stands like you'd do on an asphalt driveway maybe? I'm just guessing but there might be a way to distribute it such that you won't break the tiles.

Good point will do this until the maxjax is installed.
 

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Not sure but you may be able to add garage tiles of some type on top of the exiting floor tiles. Might be an option instead of pulling up all the tiles and then having to deal with the floor glue or mastic or whatever they used on the concrete to secure the tiles.
 
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Here's how I would use that wonderful space, YMMV.

I wouldn't touch it.

The flooring is too nice.

The cabinets are too nice.

The fireplace is too nice.

The french doors are too nice.

The upstairs is too nice.

I would soon have enough tools to fill the bay with the french doors, so no need to replace with an OH door.

The other bay would be for parking my best car, and for working on cars and big projects. When occupied with a project, woodworking or car repair, the cars park outside.

Cabinets and counter tops are just perfect. Just use them.

Flooring, if installed properly, will take the loads. You might find a clear nonslip coating that you could coat it with, or add rubber mats in the work areas.

Upstairs is bulk storage and office space. I might be tempted to install doors in place of the upstairs window, or provide windows that open, such that long things could be lifted and slid in there.

Do you have the ability to add a carport or install a fabric carport?

Bill
 
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jferrante

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Here's how I would use that wonderful space, YMMV.

I wouldn't touch it.

Flooring, if installed properly, will take the loads. You might find a clear nonslip coating that you could coat it with, or add rubber mats in the work areas.

Upstairs is bulk storage and office space. I might be tempted to install doors in place of the upstairs window, or provide windows that open, such that long things could be lifted and slid in there.

Do you have the ability to add a carport or install a fabric carport?

Bill

Thanks for the feedback - the non-slip coating is an interesting one and i will do some research on it.
Interesting on the doors - not sure what I would need to put ling things up there but maybe I am just inexperienced.
What are you getting at with the carport - using the garage for work and carport for storage? If so interesting idea - I also have a shed behind the garage for yard things.
 

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Beautiful work area. Almost too nice to call a garage. The first thing that struck me was that center post. Those things are always in the way of something. Since it really only looks like it is supporting the upstairs floor and not the roof, I would consider sistering the existing beam with two steel I-beams supported on the ends with piers and getting rid of it. Box it in with drywall and you're much better off.


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jferrante

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You have a great garage just the way it is! Put the tires in the shed.

Thanks and good idea -
Just re-measured the ceiling and I am at about 7' 11 1/2" - going to need to blow the ceiling out for a maxjax no?
 

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That's a very nice setup but can you continue to heat with wood stove and with the blessing of your insurance underwriter? My buildings are fully insured with properly inspected wood stoves but I live in Canada.

From National Fire code NFPA 211
12.2.3 Solid fuel-burning appliances shall not be installed in
any location where gasoline or any other flammable vapors or
gases are present.
12.2.4 Solid fuel-burning appliances shall not be installed in
any garage.
 
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jferrante

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That's a very nice setup but can you continue to heat with wood stove and with the blessing of your insurance underwriter? My buildings are fully insured with properly inspected wood stoves but I live in Canada.

From National Fire code NFPA 211
12.2.3 Solid fuel-burning appliances shall not be installed in
any location where gasoline or any other flammable vapors or
gases are present.
12.2.4 Solid fuel-burning appliances shall not be installed in
any garage.

Interesting - the insurance company knows there is a stove on premise so we shall see when they do their visual.

Now I need to figure out how to raise ceiling height to get the maxjax to be fully functional :dunno:
 
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