The VISES of Garage Journal
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GETRIDAONE
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One of my minions fond this one. Clearly some condition issues. I think it is a Prentiss because of the split slide. I think there are cracks in the towers where the pipe jaws would fit. Clearly a pre-1900 vise. Bolt through the counter.
Anyone have an idea on who made this??
I bet it is an older version of this Parker 8 W
That Stephen's is cool. Be careful and take pictures if you decide to take the handle and locking mechanism out.
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454ragtop
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On my way to pick this up!! Always wanted to get one of these.
Saw that earlier, always wanted one of those too. But I'm not really a fan of those under the bench swivels. Curious to see if that flange goes to the vise or not.
Good luck, Jim
CRSINMICH
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On my way to pick this up!! Always wanted to get one of these.
To use outdated slang - Really rad vise Joe. Too cool!
Hemi49
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One of my minions fond this one. Clearly some condition issues. I think it is a Prentiss because of the split slide. I think there are cracks in the towers where the pipe jaws would fit. Clearly a pre-1900 vise. Bolt through the counter.
Anyone have an idea on who made this??
Joe
Might be a Fulton made in Lowville, N.Y.
Hemi
Blue Frog
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Picked this up today off C/L. I'll be going back in a few days to get a 4" swivelling Yost.
A little clean-up and this will be a very nice vise.
Blue
After a little cleanup - I'll do more.
And here's the Yost.
Jaws are in good shape.
Finally, how the jaws line up.
Blue
topop101
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Certainly is an odd one from Wilton. Styled like a pattern makers vise. The one in the picture I posted has some issue with the lead screw...
topop101
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I had a customer that had literally went through TWO HF vise's in one day. Broken D jaws one both . Granted he was using it as a press but I sold him a Parker 975 over 5 years ago and it's still holding up for him.
jakemac
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The same reason why you choose between a Toyota instead of a Yugo if you want something that will last. One is built better. (Hint : It isn't the one that was built in a former Soviet factory)
KMScott
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Yours picture shows a Power screw Wilton, I believe it uses a hydraulic set up to tighten tighter then the normal way. I thought Oldie had a cut away view of this setup. Maybe the one I show is ONE without the hydraulic spindle setup. Here is a LINK to a power screw by Wilton post created by Craig (Catalyze).
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Fxsb103
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Hey guys. This thread made me grab this vise that was laying on a skid in my shed. Used to be my father's, i think it was the one in his shop about 20 years ago. Just wondering if it is worth fixing up and if so, some instructions on the best way to do so using the methods which will achieve the best results. Thanks in advance!
*** or a link to "restoring vises"... but I'm still searching. This thread has so much good material.*** but would still appreciate feedback on my Parker vise.
*** or a link to "restoring vises"... but I'm still searching. This thread has so much good material.*** but would still appreciate feedback on my Parker vise.
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bagged89s10
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I can understand quality but some of these are insanely expensive. Also Toyota tends to fail too [emoji11]
McBrownie
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Fx,
You have a winner! I would think about leaving it as you found it, except for oiling up the screw. Search for the Vise Repair 101 thread if you want to dive in deeper. Very nice vise and welcome to the forum.
Edit: Also, check this site out to see what you have.
http://scuttle.dayid.org/wiki/index.php/Charles_Parker_Vise
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Hemi49
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Fxsb
Go to Vintage Tools; Vise Repair 101.....Lots of repair information.....Welcome
Hemi
topop101
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Very good info KMScott Thanks. I think I'll steer clear of that one. By the way do you make brass jaws for a Wilton 935 Chicago era ?
scooternut
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You have an heirloom quality vise. Clean it up, keep it as is. Keep it from abuse and it will last as long as your last name.
joe.striper
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Got it! I have no idea how it works. Needs some oiling and needs to be loosened up. It is in such phenomenally clean shape.looks complete, i hope it is.
Thought I'd share this hopeful fella... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-M...354774?hash=item25b40a2956:g:UkwAAOSw~gRVwP9l
Hemi49
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The base has teeth that engage teeth on the swivel lock......sort of an indexing effect.....I guess after a couple pops it might resemble gears....
Hemi
I know... I own a 5197... the same locking mechanism as was used on most old vises...
va.grouseman
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JZig, I have to say, you and Topop are impressive.---You drive tacks with a 100 lb. sledge, and Top has to be choping fire-wood for an electrical power plant.---Obviously there are some steroids in play here.
I want me one of those 5198 Craftsmans with the gear driven rotating turrets.---Now that's a keeper.
I want me one of those 5198 Craftsmans with the gear driven rotating turrets.---Now that's a keeper.
va.grouseman
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Bag, how did you arrive at that figure?---Are you just spit-balling?
Hello everyone, I am new here, just signed up. I was trying to find out info about my old vise on another forum and was directed to your forum and the quoted post #7344 on page 368 of this thread.
So yeah, I have a "No. 7" vise that belonged to my father-in-law. From what I have been seeing, it looks like it was made by The Charles Parker Co. Perhaps, due to lack of makers mark, it was produced for the discount stores such as Ward's? Same as cast iron cookware was produced by the big name makers, but without their names on the pans for the discount stores.
I had no clue that vises were collectors items! So maybe I should clean this one up.
I can't read through near 2000 pages, so if anyone has input on who/what/where about the No. 7 vise it would be most appreciated.
Thank you.
454ragtop
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Sounds like an Ebay completed auction figure to me............
oldldh
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Reverend Scott ---
Here are both of my Wilton cutaway drawings...
As well as, a photo,of a "PowRscrew" style vise, like the one in question...
And all the Wilton PowRscrew stuff I've got..
The vise was restored by a GJ member...
"Catalyze", was the guilty party...
The PowRscrew Style vises were only available in 4 1/2" size --- I think...
But...even though it's a "Swivlin' B@#tard", I wouldn't mind having that 4 1/2" PowRscrew style clamper...I believe they were fairly heavy, and Wilton "bullet" style vises are nice tools to have...
Here are both of my Wilton cutaway drawings...
As well as, a photo,of a "PowRscrew" style vise, like the one in question...
And all the Wilton PowRscrew stuff I've got..
The vise was restored by a GJ member...
"Catalyze", was the guilty party...
The PowRscrew Style vises were only available in 4 1/2" size --- I think...
But...even though it's a "Swivlin' B@#tard", I wouldn't mind having that 4 1/2" PowRscrew style clamper...I believe they were fairly heavy, and Wilton "bullet" style vises are nice tools to have...
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Shiftless
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Hello everyone, I am new here, just signed up. I was trying to find out info about my old vise on another forum and was directed to your forum and the quoted post #7344 on page 368 of this thread.
So yeah, I have a "No. 7" vise that belonged to my father-in-law. From what I have been seeing, it looks like it was made by The Charles Parker Co. Perhaps, due to lack of makers mark, it was produced for the discount stores such as Ward's? Same as cast iron cookware was produced by the big name makers, but without their names on the pans for the discount stores.
I had no clue that vises were collectors items! So maybe I should clean this one up.
Kmot:
Welcome! You've come to the right place for IDing an old vise. (But maybe not a great idea to say you can't read previous postings.). Anyway...Welcome to our crazy world.
My first impressions lead to Parker but the crack in the middle of the slide in the back hints at Prentiss. Many if not most Prentiss vises show a hairline crack back there. Parkers had much stronger reinforced slides (AFAIK) much less likely to crack. The shape of the nose doesn't help differentiate.
So who made your FIL's vise? HELL IF I KNOW!
That upswept swirl in the back is very unusual so that might be your best bet at figuring out who made it. The type of swivel lockdown going through a hole in your bench dates the vise
as REALLY old. Like late 1800's maybe. There was probably a threaded piece extending downward through the bench top so the vise could be tightened down from below with a big rather elaborate wing nut.
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Nuts
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Hello everyone, I am new here, just signed up. I was trying to find out info about my old vise on another forum and was directed to your forum and the quoted post #7344 on page 368 of this thread.
So yeah, I have a "No. 7" vise that belonged to my father-in-law. From what I have been seeing, it looks like it was made by The Charles Parker Co. Perhaps, due to lack of makers mark, it was produced for the discount stores such as Ward's? Same as cast iron cookware was produced by the big name makers, but without their names on the pans for the discount stores.
I had no clue that vises were collectors items! So maybe I should clean this one up.
Kmot:
Welcome! You've come to the right place for IDing an old vise. (But maybe not a great idea to say you can't read previous postings.). Anyway...Welcome to our crazy world.
My first impressions lead to Parker but the crack in the middle of the slide in the back hints at Prentiss. Many if not most Prentiss vises show a hairline crack back there. Parkers had much stronger reinforced slides (AFAIK) much less likely to crack. The shape of the nose doesn't help differentiate.
So who made your FIL's vise? HELL IF I KNOW!
That upswept swirl in the back is very unusual so that might be your best bet at figuring out who made it. The type of swivel lockdown going through a hole in your bench dates the vise
as REALLY old. Like late 1800's maybe. There was probably a threaded piece extending downward through the bench top so the vise could be tightened down from below with a big rather elaborate wing nut.
I wonder if Parker had the same splitting slide as Prentiss, might be shortly after this vise they got their act together.
Nuts
Nuts
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Now here is the eternal vise optimist. It's just wonderful how he explains how his vise is not broken.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Morgan-30-V...646840?hash=item3d0ded1738:g:PoYAAOSw3KFWgufF
Nuts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Morgan-30-V...646840?hash=item3d0ded1738:g:PoYAAOSw3KFWgufF
Nuts
topop101
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Hello everyone, I am new here, just signed up. I was trying to find out info about my old vise on another forum and was directed to your forum and the quoted post #7344 on page 368 of this thread.
So yeah, I have a "No. 7" vise that belonged to my father-in-law. From what I have been seeing, it looks like it was made by The Charles Parker Co. Perhaps, due to lack of makers mark, it was produced for the discount stores such as Ward's? Same as cast iron cookware was produced by the big name makers, but without their names on the pans for the discount stores.
I had no clue that vises were collectors items! So maybe I should clean this one up.
I can't read through near 2000 pages, so if anyone has input on who/what/where about the No. 7 vise it would be most appreciated.
Thank you.
Yes this is a Parker vise. It predates all my info back to 1887. Early swivel base style and missing pipe jaws. Great lines on this model .
bagged89s10
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I saw it in eBay. It was in Connecticut and was watching it.
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/311515763127
Reversepolarity
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Here my favorite of my vises.
Mounts in the shop, to back of truck, side of welding trailer, and next to my forge.
Versatile, and tough as nails.
Mounts in the shop, to back of truck, side of welding trailer, and next to my forge.
Versatile, and tough as nails.
Don't know what it is, but there's been one just like it for sale in Chicago for a few months now:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/tls/5385820414.html
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econotrk
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A cheap Chinese vise feels cheap and doesn't operate smoothly. If you appreciate the feel a a fine tool over a piece of junk, be it a hand tool, a power tool, or any number of older well made items, you'd know at first use why everyone is so crazy about these old vises. There really is no comparison in feel.
va.grouseman
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Econ.