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Do you own a Square Recess Screwdriver Set?

winlinmac

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I haven't seen any Square Recess screwdrivers (aka Robertson) included in basic screwdriver sets for the typical consumer. It's more in the line of specialty tools it seems. I have a couple from an older Craftsman set, but never really used it (may be once or twice). What's a good Square Recess set to have handy?
 
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The only two results I come across on Amazon are Bondhus and Tekton in the $10-15 range. Very common to see these used by electricians. I have a electrical receptacle to realign in the coming days ahead, and could really find the right size handy at the right time. :)
 

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For whatever reason I only ever see Robertson screws in low torque applications, usually in RVs, so I wouldn't think you'd need to be worried about getting a great set. I just keep a few in each size in one inch insert bits, when I get low from losing them I get whatever is cheapest in a brand I recognize.

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I have Klein ones from Home Depot. I also have the combo-tip Klein's (also from HD).
 
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I have the Klein #2 square drive, much better locking grip on the circuit breaker screws in my QO panel
 

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I have the inserts for use in a power driver or insert screwdriver

Bob

This is what I did for nearly 25 years at work. I just bought the bits. It was only recently that I added Robertson drivers to my box, and that is only because I've been picking them up at yard and estate sales.

Unless you run into square drive heads often, the bits will get you by. If you have to turn them often, then it might be worth investing the money. Most likely you will only run into #1's and #2's. 3's and 4's are less common.

I now have the following brands in my box (not that I really need them):
Gray
Robertson
Craftsman
SnapOn
Matco
and a no-name driver

Square drivers are less likely to wear than Phillips or flat drivers, so pick a brand that feels good in your hand and don't think too much about quality. Chances are that you will wear out before the driver does.
 
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ajchien

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Most of the woodworking I do involves square drive screws. I've got whole bunch of dewalt and Milwaukee bits to put in the impact driver. I've used cheap no name bits before, consistently was sorely lacking in the cheap bits. In a pack of 10, 2 would break after 1 screw, 6 would wear after 10 screws, and I would find 2 that would last a while. The dewalt and Milwaukee bits consistently last a while.
 

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Aka "robbies". Very common in Canada for carpentry & woodworking and electrical boxes & wiring devices. I use a robbie most of the time, occasionally a phillips and almost never a flat blade. Most of my flat blade screwdrivers have ended up being damaged from being used as a chisel. My old Bosch impact driver along with a square bit has thousands of miles on it for carpentry use. Phillips screws are used mostly for finish appearance on exposed heads. Drywall screws here are always phillips.

Handles are usually color coded (at least here). A robbie red would be a #2 bit and green a #1. Robertson decking screws require a different bit that have a 3 degree taper.

I would have thought that the US would have been the same? If not, what is used for things like yellow zinc construction screws and coated decking screws?

Trivia: the robertson screwdriver was invented in 1908 by a Canadian, P.L. Robertson.
 
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Robbies are my most used screwdrivers and impact bits.
I have Klein, wera and some other cheap screwdriver sets including the wera stainless ones.
For driver bits I prefer wera or wiha, but I have a huge assortment of varying manufacturers.
Far left is the Robertson rack:
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I would have thought that the US would have been the same? If not, what is used for things like yellow zinc construction screws and coated decking screws?

Mostly Phillips or Torx for deck screws. There are some that use square drive.
 

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I mostly use the bits and square drive is quite common here, especially for electricians 1st-fit like wall boxes and such. (Similar to the Canadian comments above)

I have one Robertson screwdriver and it's printed with "Robertson" like it's the name of the brand. It's seems very good quality and I've had it maybe 20+ years.
 

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Love 'em, but then I'm a woodworker. I use square drive whenever possible. Most pocket hole screws today are square drive, as are many of the slide screws. I have a variety of different screwdrivers for 'em.
 

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We have a couple Kleins, but generally use Dewalt bits......were in the RV business so lots of square head screws.
 

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Most general purpose construction/deck screws you see in Canada will be square drive. Go to Home Depot for a 1000pc box of 3" screws? Square drive. The only Phillips screw you will see regularly in bulk will be drywall screws. There isn't a Canadian handyman in the country that doesn't curse those ****** little Phillips screws that come with any door knobs or curtain rods. Square drive isn't perfect, but the only thing better is torx.
 

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Robertson and Square are slightly different. I have Wiha, Bahco, and Fuller Robertson drivers. There are manufacturers that call them the same thing, but they're not, and it makes it impossible to know what standard they chose (without getting your eyeball and micrometer out)
 

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+1 on the McFeeley's!

I have 3 sets of Square Drive screwdrivers and a number of power bits.

I was on vacation in Niagara Fall's Canada and bought a #2 Square driver to repair a poor installation of a vertical blind in the condo we were renting. I was bored and it bothered me. :dunno:

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Being Canadian, eh, I've had lots of Robertson bits and screwdrivers. A couple of years ago, I purchased some Wera screwdrivers, which included some Robertsons. I find myself reaching for these screwdrivers, just because I like the handle. I don't think I've ever had a bad Robertson screwdriver, just ones that had uncomfortable handles. And the only bad Robertson bits I've ever had were the ones that came with the old Craftsman cordless drill-drivers from 10-20 years ago.
 

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Robertson and Square are slightly different. I have Wiha, Bahco, and Fuller Robertson drivers. There are manufacturers that call them the same thing, but they're not, and it makes it impossible to know what standard they chose (without getting your eyeball and micrometer out)

Right. We learned this in another thread a while back. One is tapered and the other one isn't. ....or not as much, something like that. I definitely remember they are different.
 
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I just bought a Klein Switch Drive handle with #1 & #2 6" square drives that also fit into an impact driver. The Klein system is very sturdy with very little wobble. I recommend them.
 

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You have all seen Mike Holmes. well you have all seen Robertson screws in action :)

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I live in Canada my Dad is in the US the rest of my family is in the UK
i have used all kinds of screws. I must admit the Robertson is good. Put a screw on your bit aim screw.

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I bought some Canadian made Picquic screwdrivers 7-in-1 that had the square bits for my Canadian made Class B RV. There are Canadian versions, with 3 square bits, or American versions with a few torx bits instead. Great screwdrivers and great bits. Their patent must have run out as there are Milwaukee copies in Home Depot now. The Picquic is better quality though.
 
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